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KAMI_1
11-03-2004, 04:49 AM
CLOSED by KAMI

NegativeGee
11-03-2004, 05:14 AM
I take it these are your work?

Because they are brilliant!- and it looks like all the crew positions is done as well http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Oi! Luthier! get yer finger out and let whoever did these excellent models know what the score is http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif

Seriously, what a waste it would be not to see these get into the game.......

ElAurens
11-03-2004, 05:25 AM
Kami, please don't give up. This aircraft is a must have for Pacific Fighters. No proper scenario about he defence of the Home Islands is complete without it. Not to mention all the "what if" and Korean war possibilities. The screens are beautiful looking.

Please do not abandon this body of excellent work!!!


And @ Luthier... Get together with this man and get the job done.

S!

WOLFMondo
11-03-2004, 05:26 AM
Nice work. Don't give up.

Ruy Horta
11-03-2004, 05:29 AM
You cannot quit if you have come that far.

It sounds ironic coming from me but:

KEEP THE FAITH!!!

Snootles
11-03-2004, 05:30 AM
That is a staggering amount of work and talent there! Please don't let it all go to nothing!

toutin
11-03-2004, 06:29 AM
bump!!!
Nice! Keep the faith! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

Athosd
11-03-2004, 06:42 AM
Excellent work KAMI_1 - it would indeed be a pity not to see such a huge effort put to use.

Perhaps you could try emailing Oleg - some of the posters here have sent in PF bug reports and received prompt replies.

Salute

Athos

Jester_159th
11-03-2004, 06:46 AM
I'm with Athos.

E-mail Oleg direct. That is brilliant work. You've obviously put hours of hard work and a hell of a lot of talent into those internal views. To waste them would be a tragedy!

Don't give up.

VW-IceFire
11-03-2004, 07:15 AM
Absolutely fantastic...I'd keep up the good work man. Luthier has been difficult to contact before and I hear he has e-mail troubles, ISP problems, and the whole works so he may never have gotten your e-mails.

Still...I can see why you'd be put off.

Try contacting Oleg directly. He may be able to make Luthier aware of things if this thread doesn't.

Hard work...VERY hard work. Lots of bomber fans appreciate it no doubt!

Dutch60
11-03-2004, 07:19 AM
Wow this is simply unbelievable work http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Diablo310th
11-03-2004, 07:34 AM
Absolutely fantastic work Kami...please don't give up.

Obi_Kwiet
11-03-2004, 07:44 AM
Ahhnnaa!!! You're almost done! Keep working! This WILL get in. Even if we have to smash down the doors of 1C and force them at gun point! This WILL get finished!!!

Jippo01
11-03-2004, 07:51 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet:
Ahhnnaa!!! You're almost done! Keep working! This _WILL_ get in. Even if we have to smash down the doors of 1C and force them at gun point! This _WILL_ get finished!!! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


I wouldn't worry, there is simply no way they are going to waste this work. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif The screenshot in the U.S. bomber campaign loading page is a B-29, and I take it as a promise. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


-jippo

AFJ_Locust
11-03-2004, 08:35 AM
We must keep thhis on top forever !!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Great Work !!!

Greb
11-03-2004, 08:40 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ElAurens:
Kami, please don't give up. This aircraft is a _must have_ for Pacific Fighters. No proper scenario about he defence of the Home Islands is complete without it. Not to mention all the "what if" and Korean war possibilities. The screens are beautiful looking.

Please do not abandon this body of excellent work!!!


And @ Luthier... Get together with this man and get the job done.

S! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

What EL said!!

Stick with it, PLEASE!! Awesome work on a Great Aricraft. Let's hope Luthier gets it together!

actionhank1786
11-03-2004, 08:44 AM
No!
You've got to keep trying!
Someone around here can get ahold of Luthier, this plane would make an awesome flyable, and there's no sense in all that great work going to waste!

Skypoet
11-03-2004, 08:46 AM
Jeez... it would be such a shame if your pit didn't make it in a patch... all that work for nothing? A SHAME!

goshikisen
11-03-2004, 08:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by KAMI_1:
I try to contact Luthier now 2 months , without any reply. no ello, no wait , nothing.


2 months ago he told me that we will start after PF has gone gold , but nothing happens .

I´ts time to say good bye.

BTW till today i have no contract for that pit, so i did not understand why Luthier announced it @ E3 as "possible"

SORRY <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Amazing stuff. I can't believe that all of that hard work would go to waste. It's obvious that you and Luthier have discussed this project... you'd think he could have taken a minute or 2 to send you a message no matter what his opinion or requirements are. It's just common courtesy.

Pacific Fighters is great... no matter how many bugs it has, but as a project it has been a case study in poor communication between those who are working on it and those who are managing it.

Oleg or Luthier. Please let this gentleman know where he stands.

Regards, Goshikisen

Willey
11-03-2004, 08:47 AM
Do'nt give it up, it just rocks! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

adlabs6
11-03-2004, 08:47 AM
Very fine work. I hope that you get a contract for it. If not, I hope that some of this model would be able to be retro-fitted for another sim (FS2004), as this is certainly worth a payware purchase if it's not wanted for PF.

I still cannot accept the excuse that PF lacks pertinent planes because it won't fit on 2 cd's... when countless PC games today in the same price range ship with 4 to 6 cd's as standard. Either UBI was being cheap on the publishing, or the remaining content for PF just wasn't done.

TC_Stele
11-03-2004, 09:03 AM
Wow, that's extremely impressive. Gives a lot of hope to the bomber pilots.

Spectre_USA
11-03-2004, 09:08 AM
Say it ain't so!

The B-29 would make this sim! Especially with this obviously 1st rate job you've done Kami. Please say Luthier
doesn't throw it all away!

jimmie_T
11-03-2004, 09:11 AM
Buuuuump!

Great!!!

We do have to keep this bumping, do we not?!


What's wrong with this forum software incidentally! It dies so often. Is it only me?

gombal40
11-03-2004, 09:11 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Spectre_USA:
Say it ain't so!

The B-29 would _make_ this sim! Especially with this obviously 1st rate job you've done Kami. Please say Luthier
doesn't throw it all away! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

NOOO.... its to beutifull to loose.

somebody pinches oleg..!!!! He must step in to resolve this.

gombal40
11-03-2004, 09:16 AM
NOOO.... its to beutifull to loose.

somebody pinches oleg..!!!! He must step in to resolve this.

Philipscdrw
11-03-2004, 09:18 AM
Has anyone emailed Oleg yet?

Nevermind, I will.

Philipscdrw
11-03-2004, 10:11 AM
Oleg just emailed me saying that he has replied in this thread??

Tdavart
11-03-2004, 11:07 AM
Good lord, that is just beautiful!! I could ALMOST overlook the lack of flyable Tor******s for this. What's with 1C for not even having the courtesy to reply to an email?

DarthBane_
11-03-2004, 11:22 AM
This should be the top priority for PF, with Shiden and Raiden folowing. Everything else should be on hold.

jimmie_T
11-03-2004, 11:24 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Philipscdrw:
Has anyone emailed Oleg yet?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's done http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

oleg cofirmed! (http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/boards/bbs/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=114;t=001046)

Gato__Loco
11-03-2004, 12:26 PM
Must.... have.... B-29.... aaaaargh....

goshikisen
11-03-2004, 12:26 PM
A shameless bump.

and while I'm at it...

Check out this restoration of a B-29 to flying condition by Boeing. Doc is being restored in Wichita, Kansas.

http://b-29.boeing.com/

- also -

A site devoted to the men who flew Superfortresses.

http://b-29.org/

http://home.att.net/%7Esallyann6/b29/al-2.jpg

Philipscdrw
11-03-2004, 12:42 PM
I remember a documentary about a team who went to recover a B-29 that had landed in the Artic for some reason. One guy died, and when they tried to fly it something caught fire in the radio room and they abandoned it.

Snuffy Smith
11-03-2004, 01:10 PM
Original by Oleg Maddox "Member # 446
posted 11-03-2004 0:12
-------------------------
1) First of all Luthier was in Moscow for some time working with us.
2) He had a spam filter that was cuting even my emails. It seems solved.
3) at the moment he is sick. All his family sick, including 5 month age doughter.
4) He was answering him, and I got these emails as CC.
From: Moscow, Russia | Registered: Feb 2000 | IP: Logged"
>>>

The work is beautiful. This just looks perfect to me. I would settle for just the cockpit and nothing else if that was all there could be. Kami_1 has worked wonders. Here's a hope that it will become a reality.

goshikisen
11-03-2004, 01:11 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Philipscdrw:
I remember a documentary about a team who went to recover a B-29 that had landed in the Artic for some reason. One guy died, and when they tried to fly it something caught fire in the radio room and they abandoned it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I recall the doc. you are refering to. The B-29 was called the "Keebird" (sp?). An extremely interesting story with a tragic end. I wonder what was going through the restoration team's minds as they watched it burn. I remember them sitting in lawn chairs watching it burn... there was nothing they could do about it. The fire spread too quickly.

Flat_foot
11-03-2004, 01:15 PM
Bump

Freycinet
11-03-2004, 01:44 PM
KAMI already made a BEAUTIFUL internal model for the Focke-Wulf FW-200 Kondor, but it was wasted by 1C:Maddox. They just didn't want it, even though it was top-notch, not worse than what we see here with the B-29. Compared to other internals in these sims, his work is up there, definitely acceptable.

Luthier and Maddox should definitely start treating Kami better. He made the Kondor, the Emily and the B-29 external models. He deserves some responses to his emails. I'd like to see not just the B-29 internals, but also the Kondor (let it come out with Jippo's Ju-88 internal).

Sakai9745
11-03-2004, 01:59 PM
D...R...O...O...L...

Outstanding work!

rugame
11-03-2004, 02:45 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sakai9745:
D...R...O...O...L...

Outstanding work! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree

Please dont give up on this, that work is fantastic.

KIMURA
11-03-2004, 02:56 PM
Kami, the work is to much advantaged to give it up.

BSR_RuGGBuTT
11-03-2004, 03:58 PM
Keep it up, we'll have to rally Oleg to add your work. I'm here for ya.

No601_prangster
11-03-2004, 04:01 PM
Fantastic job you've done there Kami. Don't get discouraged I.m sure it will get sorted out. Thanks for you many months of hard work.

Cheers

Burnin_777_AVG
11-03-2004, 04:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by No601_prangster:
Fantastic job you've done there Kami. Don't get discouraged I.m sure it will get sorted out. Thanks for you many months of hard work.

Cheers <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ditto and Bump.

BV

GC25Redstar
11-03-2004, 04:28 PM
Incredible work !!! Please continue


OLEG make something for that !!!!

Silencer_42
11-03-2004, 04:30 PM
As a bomber pilot I am happy to see someone working to add more HEAVY bombers in the game. Nice work and good luck http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

3.JG51_BigBear
11-03-2004, 04:38 PM
This would be so cool.

Space_Hippy
11-03-2004, 05:22 PM
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Obi_Kwiet
11-03-2004, 05:39 PM
So, what's the word KAMI?

Snootles
11-03-2004, 06:42 PM
At the very least, If you're absolutely sick of the project, find someone skilled and dedicated to commit themselves to its completion. And while we're at it, does anyone know what happened to the Fw 200 interiors or if we can expect to see them anytime soon?

Obi_Kwiet
11-03-2004, 09:09 PM
If Oleg dosen't like the FW-200 c-pit, or the B-29 c-pit, we may be forced to create a small petetion in ORR.

p1ngu666
11-03-2004, 09:49 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet:
If Oleg dosen't like the FW-200 c-pit, or the B-29 c-pit, we may be forced to create a small petetion in ORR. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

yes, most i hard about fw200 pits was something about apples and rubiks http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

from what we saw of fw200 it looked good enuff easliy, so i dont know what the problem is unless it wasnt bulit how 1c likes/needs.

a shame cos fw200 is cool plane, its teh 4x 1000kg ab bombs http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Snootles
11-03-2004, 11:03 PM
That, and teh 4x engines. Not many production German planes had more than two.

GoToAway
11-03-2004, 11:48 PM
You know...
I love Oleg/Luthier/Ilya/Etc. You'll be hard-pressed to find developers that are more supportive of their customers than the Il-2 team, but something really needs to be done about this communication breakdown. This is not an isolated incident. Many modelers have complained that they have not been able to get in contact with Oleg or Luthier and don't even know what the status of their projects are.

It seems awfully ****ed silly to put flyable aircraft in jeopardy because of a breakdown in communication. Why don't these people have a phone number? Email is unreliable--messages can go undelivered, they can be accidently filtered, the mail sever can crash and take unread messages with it, and so on and so forth. People like KAMI need somebody that they can actually talk to at Maddox Games...

gombal40
11-04-2004, 02:07 AM
.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif

CORTO.M
11-04-2004, 02:20 AM
Dont give up Kami...

KAMI_1
11-04-2004, 03:48 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet:
So, what's the word KAMI? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The word is following:

don´t whine on FW 200 Pit , it was a nice experiment for me and i´ve learned much about modelling . At least the materialsetup was completly wrong so i understand Olegs word on this. Be sure u will one time fly one , but not that one and not for me and maybe not in this sim.

The other one we will see what future will bring. After your extremly e-mail Spam to Oleg he is in contact with me and we try to find the problem why no mails that Ilya send me has reached me.

Over and out

Blottogg
11-04-2004, 05:30 AM
Woo, Hoo!! Your work looks fantastic KAMI, glad to hear you're finally in contact with Oleg. Thanks for sticking with it a little longer.

Rebel_Yell_21
11-04-2004, 10:08 AM
That is great news. Glad I won't have to give up hope of piloting a Superfort one of these days. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

Obi_Kwiet
11-04-2004, 11:04 AM
I didn't have to spam him, he noticed by thread on SimHQ. I may have been forced to orgainze a mass spam of all IL2'ers to his inbox if he hadn't though. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Dutch60
11-04-2004, 11:29 AM
BUMP http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Flat_foot
11-04-2004, 11:56 AM
Bump... Bump and BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMPPPPPPPPPPPPP

Simjock
11-04-2004, 12:19 PM
BUMP !!!

Tell us were to send donations so you can keep working.

TgD Thunderbolt56
11-04-2004, 12:22 PM
Adding flyable heavies is the capstone to this fine line of sims. It has just about everything else anyone could want and putting a flyable B-17/24/29, Lancaster for the allies and adding the Ju88 for the Axis opens so many other possibilities

I can't wait

Old_Canuck
11-04-2004, 01:32 PM
Take courage, Kami. As it is, PF is destined for a long run with a huge fan base. A flyable B-29 will keep it on the shelves much longer. The developers know this and if your work meets their standards, they will keep the door open for you. IMHO.

gombal40
11-04-2004, 01:37 PM
no bump

shame on 1c. contact the dude ... he did a lot of work.

rugame
11-04-2004, 03:02 PM
Bump

Kamis work exceeds the standard imho.

ArgonV
11-04-2004, 03:20 PM
Oh mighty master of the B-29 cockpit, PLEASE PLEASE say this will make it in game! Oleg and team, you cannot do this man injustice....

GT182
11-04-2004, 03:26 PM
Kami, you done some amazing and very beautiful work. ~S!~

Stick with it please.

crazyivan1970
11-04-2004, 03:41 PM
Looking into it, dont drop it.

Flatlander1961
11-04-2004, 04:00 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TgD Thunderbolt56:
Adding flyable heavies is the capstone to this fine line of sims. It has just about everything else anyone could want and putting a flyable B-17/24/29, Lancaster for the allies and adding the Ju88 for the Axis opens so many other possibilities

I can't wait <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes hurry and do a B17 and maybe a full map of europe including england

A.K.Davis
11-04-2004, 04:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Freycinet:
KAMI already made a BEAUTIFUL internal model for the Focke-Wulf FW-200 Kondor, but it was wasted by 1C:Maddox. They just didn't want it, even though it was top-notch, not worse than what we see here with the B-29. Compared to other internals in these sims, his work is up there, definitely acceptable.

Luthier and Maddox should definitely start treating Kami better. He made the Kondor, the Emily and the B-29 external models. He deserves some responses to his emails. I'd like to see not just the B-29 internals, but also the Kondor (let it come out with Jippo's Ju-88 internal). <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Okay, Kami's B-29 looks pretty incredible. I hope it comes with a real U.S. bombsight that we can retrofit to the B-25. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

However, I'm not letting this one slide by. Maddox Games did not arbitrarily reject Kami's Fw-200 internals. I recall there be some specific reasons, but that was a long time ago.

Second, if you're not working under contract, why didn't you tell the community about this much earlier Kami? Kinda late to be waging a campaign for it's inclusion...

Gibbage1
11-04-2004, 04:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by A.K.Davis:

Second, if you're not working under contract, why didn't you tell the community about this much earlier Kami? Kinda late to be waging a campaign for it's inclusion... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I dont think a single one of the 3rd party modelers were working "under contract". But more of a "personal agreement". Also something called an "NDA" or "Non Disclosure Agreement". Braking any of those two would mean bad things for your future in the game industry. All the modelers may not have signed an NDA, but we kept our mouths shut about our work on PF, and Kami was bound by the same code of conduct. All of us at Netwings had to deal with Ilya's "spam filter" togeather without crying foul to the public and braking what trust we earned.

I must hand it to Kami for staying with it for so long. A lot of the modelers had to wait MONTHS for a reply from Ilya and it delayed a lot of projects. A lot wanted to quit, but we stayed with it. We can only hang in so long before the last straw falls..

But Oleg has been very good. I wish we did not need to burden him with such things, but he helped a LOT. If a modeler had a problem and Ilya would not respond, Oleg did his best. I also tried to help restore comunication as much as possible by having the modelers help each other in the private forum at Netwings.

ArgonV
11-04-2004, 04:56 PM
Why did Luither have such e-mail problems?!? I've NEVER had that much spam!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Obi_Kwiet
11-04-2004, 07:32 PM
I'll give him one of my address if he wants. I sign up for all kinds of forums and things, and I have not gotten a single spam message for two years on either of them. BTW, I'm not useing any filters at all. Both are free e-email accounts.

Silencer_42
11-04-2004, 07:44 PM
Hmm must be signing up on to many porn site =P

oh yeah... bump

*I suspect B-17 is being held back for BOB...

goshikisen
11-04-2004, 07:51 PM
We already have folks complaining about long flights over featureless ocean in a fighter... can you imagine what they'd say about flying a 29 from Saipan or Tinian all the way to Japan?

Freycinet
11-04-2004, 07:58 PM
well, ok the kondor pit wasn't good enough, I guess then....

BUT THE B-29 IS FABULOUS!!! - danke Kami!!

With all spam filters you can make a positive list of mail adresses that should always get through...

ImpStarDuece
11-04-2004, 10:48 PM
Absolutely jaw dropping.

Can't wait to fend of Japanese interceptors some point down the track.

Piloting a bombtruck isn't my cup of tea normally but the B-29 looks fantastic.

Great work from KAMI. Some of us have got to make sure that this gets in.

Frankly, if it dosn't, ill be really suprised!

Snootles
11-04-2004, 11:10 PM
I want to hear some very good, concrete, detailed reasons for not putting the Condor interiors in!

Fritzofn
11-04-2004, 11:19 PM
uhm.....newbie here....what does....BUMP...mean...???

Snootles
11-04-2004, 11:20 PM
It's what you do when you want to move a thread to the top of the "most recent" list.

Oleg_Maddox
11-04-2004, 11:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Snootles:
I want to hear some very good, concrete, detailed reasons for not putting the Condor interiors in! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Becasue it was too buggy and didn't match our technology.

B-29 his is making already with more great experinece.

I alos do not understand all this cry.
Developer of B-29 cockpit has emails from me and even resended emails from me that was originally for him from Lutheir. I think is he received it and know everything.

Theory of Gibbage - doesn't work. It is his thoughs, but not real things.

Snootles
11-04-2004, 11:27 PM
Good to hear from you Oleg! BTW, thanks for responding to my email. PF is barrels 'o fun.

Question: Is any part of the Condor interior "salvageable", or would it be best to start from scratch?

crazyivan1970
11-05-2004, 12:08 AM
Thanks for clearing that up Oleg, much appriciated.

Gibbage1
11-05-2004, 12:43 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Oleg_Maddox:

Theory of Gibbage - doesn't work. It is his thoughs, but not real things. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, your are correct. My theory. Thats why I said "I dont think". Thank you for the correction. I really hope this is all worked out.

KAMI_1
11-05-2004, 02:56 AM
Stop crying pls . it´s ok now.

Fw-200 pit was too bad and too much problems , especially material setup and modelling . looks good from far , but closer gets horrible.

I had not the skill to do such pit 2 years ago .Also i was a really noob when i did the FW-200 and only with Olegs work she got in .hope i have now reached the skill for that ( or near to it)
B-29 and Emily give me a lot of information and first time i got the correct material setup for a plane ( it´s really crazy *lol)

My skill is still low , a 35 year old man´s brain is slowing down after a while*lol and with 3 childs i have not that time to find every day an hour to learn .

Stay tuned and close that threat. and sorry for the bad language and grammar http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

kozhe
11-05-2004, 02:56 AM
Hi all,

I´m Dani Santos, another one from the huge PF modelers list, Oleg and Ilya know me allready rather wellhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Although i allways took this as a full time freelance job (i´m a profesional, HA! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif ) I never considered myself as a contract worker or so. We had some kind of "consultancy agreement" and that means nothing, especially when you are working some 4 thousand km away from our "boss".

There are big diferences between all PF modelers. Some, like me, work 40 hours/week, while other just spend 3 hours of their free time to make some 3d for this game. Some wouldn´t have done this for free, while others like most of the aces expansion modelers made their work as a hobby. And all is ok with all of them, there´s no a better modeler or a better way to work on this. The real diference is that now we all are being paid for this, and moreover all the PF project since the begining depended hugely in what we can do and especially what we can compromise to do.

What i want to say with all this crappy writting, is that from our crazy situation, we cannot work on a profesional game over the "i demand your attention" basis. No matter how much hours we stay in front of our computers, we are NOT regular workers.

I respect Kami as i respect all pf artists and i understand completely his point of view. But from my own experience, several times i had no reply from Ilya or Oleg during weeks, even more than a month, but i did my job http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif If i would have stop my work because the lack of reply, we wouldn´t have some of the pf aircrafts, and some of them are pretty important.

Right now i have two more completed aircrafts (yep, two of the "pf aircraft wish list" features), and one is in their hands allready, and probably i will make more, but i don´t mind how and when they will release them. I made my job, and i know they will do their.

Now talking about important things. Bush is re-elected and Arafat is dying. What a **** of world, isn´t it? I hope your governments don´t want to nacionalize your oil production http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

Snootles
11-06-2004, 10:03 PM
Get opp there!

TgD Thunderbolt56
11-06-2004, 10:49 PM
Guess that about clears it all up then..hmmm?

gombal40
11-07-2004, 03:01 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TgD Thunderbolt56:
Guess that about clears it all up then..hmmm? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No it doesnt,
We are told by OM that the was in contact. Ok thats cool.
No word about (if the model fits the technology) they will implement it.
What i would like to know if 1 c has the resources to implement this big beast. As stated by 1C it is a lot of work, even more so with multi engined planes.

So could the b29 fit in the planning? is it already in the planning?

Could 1C shine his light on this?

VW-IceFire
11-07-2004, 07:59 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by gombal40:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TgD Thunderbolt56:
Guess that about clears it all up then..hmmm? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No it doesnt,
We are told by OM that the was in contact. Ok thats cool.
No word about (if the model fits the technology) they will implement it.
What i would like to know if 1 c has the resources to implement this big beast. As stated by 1C it is a lot of work, even more so with multi engined planes.

So could the b29 fit in the planning? is it already in the planning?

Could 1C shine his light on this? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I have high hopes on this...Luthier, before PF was released, suggested that B-29, B-24, or B-17 may end up being a flyable aircraft so this would hopefully fit into something they were planning....

Already the A-20 and B-25 add huge amounts of interest for this game. So anything else would be nifty http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Automatic__Jack
11-07-2004, 08:25 AM
wonderful http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Most of the pacific war was fighted to bring the B-29s close enough to Japan, adding this plane into the flyable planes list its necessary, how is possible to exclude one of the starrings of the Pacific war?

Great work Kami, really outstanding!

Philipscdrw
11-07-2004, 09:01 AM
I really want this to fly now!

Seeing those screenshots, I can see how George Lucas modelled the gun turrets of the Millenium Falcon in Star Wars on the B-29!


I wonder how many people aren't responding to this thread because they can't find the 'comments' page?

Snootles
11-07-2004, 09:46 AM
The Superfortress cockpit bears a striking resemblance to the Milennium Falcon pit.

Dutch60
11-07-2004, 09:54 AM
Keep this thread flying

oFZo
11-07-2004, 12:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Philipscdrw:


I wonder how many people aren't responding to this thread because they can't find the 'comments' page? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

yeah that's one ****ed up forum feature/setup.

Copperhead310th
11-07-2004, 09:52 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gifI think between Jippo & Kami as a team they could single handedly model the B-29, B-24, B-17 Cockpits. I have a lot of faith in these guys tallents.they have shown how good they are time and again. hell maybey they couls get to gether and rework the FW-200? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Rebel_Yell_21
11-08-2004, 10:45 AM
Gotta get this one back up to altitude.

crazyivan1970
11-08-2004, 10:55 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rebel_Yell_21:
Gotta get this one back up to altitude. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif

jasonburn
11-08-2004, 11:07 AM
Maybe an answer would be nice?

Did the B29 make the way to the game or not?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rebel_Yell_21:
Gotta get this one back up to altitude. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Gibbage1
11-08-2004, 12:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jasonburn:
Maybe an answer would be nice?

Did the B29 make the way to the game or not?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rebel_Yell_21:
Gotta get this one back up to altitude. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you real page 5, you got an answer from both Oleg and Kami. Situation is defused. We can all move on with life now.

Rebel_Yell_21
11-08-2004, 12:38 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
Why? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why not? http://fellowshipalliance.info/v-web/bulletin/bb/images/smiles/117.gif

Seriously though, despite the fact that it has been defused, many of us slobbering bomber addicts were just hoping to hear a bit more, along with a couple of questions after Kami's post.

Wert4562
12-28-2004, 09:30 PM
I say, BUMP!



So I still don't get it - is there still a chance of it making in or not?



(I have no idea what you mean by "Defused")

MG08x15
12-29-2004, 12:23 AM
No, it is not going to be in a free upgrade. It is too resource demanding. It is not a popular or exciting plane to fly. Just look at the small number and quality of skins for it at il2skins.com. It is very pretty, but it is boring. If a 4-engine allied bomber is made flyable, it is much more likely to be a B-24, possibly a B-17. If the B-29 appears, it will be in a commercial add-on, such as ACE Expansion Pack. It comes down to a choice between 8-planes with 1-cockpit or 1-plane with 8-cockpits.

The defused or resolved comment just means that the issue of missing emails, illness of a designer, and a temporary loss of contact was long ago attended to.

I myself would dearly love to fly a 29, but it is not in the cards.

x__CRASH__x
12-29-2004, 12:37 AM
I would love to see it, but I wouldn't fly it much. It would just be cool for the wow factor.

But considering the heartache they are going through concerning TM, I'm not holding my breath.

Daiichidoku
12-29-2004, 01:05 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by goshikisen:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Philipscdrw:
I remember a documentary about a team who went to recover a B-29 that had landed in the Artic for some reason. One guy died, and when they tried to fly it something caught fire in the radio room and they abandoned it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I recall the doc. you are refering to. The B-29 was called the "Keebird" (sp?). An extremely interesting story with a tragic end. I wonder what was going through the restoration team's minds as they watched it burn. I remember them sitting in lawn chairs watching it burn... there was nothing they could do about it. The fire spread too quickly. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

the B 29 was on the greenland icecap

the fire started in the tail...

during taxi runs, the APU was left running and shook of it mount from the bumpy taxiing...fuel spilled, ignited, and the world lost the most complete, original flyable B 29

the remains were left where they burned, only the tail and wings were left...and it was on a frozen lake, the next spring brought the thaw, and whatever was left sunk to the bottom

Daiichidoku
12-29-2004, 01:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Philipscdrw:


Seeing those screenshots, I can see how George Lucas modelled the gun turrets of the Millenium Falcon in Star Wars on the B-29! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Actually, from a B 17...the shots from inside MF while using the turrets were copied from a B-17 film (a fictional film)...the part where Luke says "I got one!" and Solo says "dont get cocky" are almost carbon copies from the film, between two waist gunners

MagotDT
04-17-2012, 01:47 PM
@KAMI_1

Hello Kami_1,

please check PM!
(Its due B-29 interior)

regards,
Magot

ytareh
04-17-2012, 09:14 PM
That was an 8 year old thread Magot!New world zombie thread record set here on UbiZoo!!!???

Tully__
04-18-2012, 12:35 AM
That was an 8 year old thread Magot!New world zombie thread record set here on UbiZoo!!!???
I doubt it's a record, I've seen 10 / 11 year old threads come back. It is however a pointless necromancy, as far as I can tell Kami hasn't posted on any Ubi forum since 2004.