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darktrooper27
08-27-2006, 06:34 PM
Who do you think would win in a fight during different circumstances? e. g. Stealth, open battle.

darktrooper27
08-27-2006, 06:34 PM
Who do you think would win in a fight during different circumstances? e. g. Stealth, open battle.

HorTyS
08-27-2006, 08:23 PM
Altair, PERIOD.

Lhorkan
08-28-2006, 01:05 AM
Garrett wasn't trained to fight as much as Alta├┬»r was.

Altair, PERIOD. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

FableB
08-28-2006, 05:15 AM
Altair, PERIOD. "???"

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Fates.Dark.Hand
08-28-2006, 05:58 AM
Who the F*** is Garrett Master Thief? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

But still
Altair, PERIOD

Keksus
08-28-2006, 06:07 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fates.Dark.Hand:
Who the F*** is Garrett Master Thief? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

But still
Altair, PERIOD </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Never heard about "Thief - Deadly Shadows"? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

btw. Garret is a Thief, he's trained to steal things. Altair is an assassin, trained to kill people. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Fates.Dark.Hand
08-28-2006, 06:43 AM
Ohhhhh now i know, yeah i loved that game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif, never owned it tho.

But i stand by my choice. Altiar 24/7

xasspenx
08-28-2006, 07:50 AM
Garret wouldnt come close in a match against Altair. First off, Garret needs to be hidden in the dark, Altair can blend into a crowd and the dark and has more weapons than Garret. ALtair stabs Garret in the butt, while Garret is hiding in the dark trying to get a few gold from a civilian.

Liquid-Skin
08-28-2006, 09:22 AM
I'm a big Thief fan but the outcome of a Garrett vs Altair battle depends on the environment. If they were to battle during the night, Garrett would have the advantage because he's trained to use the shadows to stalk and kill his enemy before his enemy has the chance to react. I doubt Altair has keen eyes in the dark to spot Garrett hiding in the shadows so... Garrett wins.

In the Assassin's Creed world, Altair is trained to blend in with the crowd, and since Garrett won't have any shadows to hide in and since he wasn't trained to a prolonged physical combat... he sticks out like a sore thumb in a crowd. Altair wins.

V4iN
08-31-2006, 04:37 PM
Garret has been trained as a Keeper, and they know how to go unnoticed in a crowd. In the introduction movie of Thief1, Garrett (as a young pickpocket) is able to pick out a Keeper from the crowd and steal his purse - no easy task. Also, Garret has plenty of tools for his 'job'. Flashbombs, arrows, fire arrows, gas mines, and a sword and blackjack. In a stealth scenario, I say Garret, easy. In an open fight, not sure. Garrett knows how to use his sword, it just isn't his primary method of taking an enemy out.

UnDead_Knight1
09-01-2006, 05:45 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by V4iN:
Garret has been trained as a Keeper, and they know how to go unnoticed in a crowd. In the introduction movie of Thief1, Garrett (as a young pickpocket) is able to pick out a Keeper from the crowd and steal his purse - no easy task. Also, Garret has plenty of tools for his 'job'. Flashbombs, arrows, fire arrows, gas mines, and a sword and blackjack. In a stealth scenario, I say Garret, easy. In an open fight, not sure. Garrett knows how to use his sword, it just isn't his primary method of taking an enemy out. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif I agree

Just wanted to add that we don't exactly know Altair, I mean we haven't played the game yet, and don't know what his strenghes exactly are.

DarK_PhoeniX_22
09-01-2006, 01:28 PM
Garett is the best in the stealth fieldhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
For killing,dunno
but he's an amazing sneaker & thief + he's cool,funny & sarcastically funnyhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Altair:
we dunno much about him

Anyway,Garett's a thief & Altair's an assassin,not rly the same fieldhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

xasspenx
09-02-2006, 09:27 AM
oh my god.DarkPhoenix has gone to the "light" side. any dude that doesnt eat meat is G@y im sorry but i had to say it.anwyays...Agent 47 would kill Garret and Altair in a minute. u know y? cause 47 has his custom sniper and his ballers and fiber wire. and ALtair and Garret dont even know what 47 looks like. SO HAH! in ur faces! i just ended this topic.

Fates.Dark.Hand
09-02-2006, 11:23 AM
No...you didnt end it, you just added a random stuped comment http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

OH_DragonBoy
09-02-2006, 11:31 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fates.Dark.Hand:
No...you didnt end it, you just added a random stuped comment http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>If he ended it, he would have been the last poster. And it looks like you foiled his evil plan.

DarK_PhoeniX_22
09-02-2006, 01:41 PM
@ *** (shortform for xsspenx) :
did u just call me gayhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif
btw,in the title: "Garrett MasterThief Vs. Altair",do u see Agent 47 hidden anywhere?http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif47's good too.even i like hitman,but imo garett is better than anyone in the stealth field

drunkrepublican
09-02-2006, 01:50 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by xasspenx:
oh my god.DarkPhoenix has gone to the "light" side. any dude that doesnt eat meat is G@y im sorry but i had to say it.anwyays...Agent 47 would kill Garret and Altair in a minute. u know y? cause 47 has his custom sniper and his ballers and fiber wire. and ALtair and Garret dont even know what 47 looks like. SO HAH! in ur faces! i just ended this topic. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So just because he might be a vegetarian he's "gay"? And I love Hitman and play Blood Money on my 360 EVERY day (Almost have all the achievements!) But I've never seen 47 jump from rooftop to rooftop and hide a blade where his ring finger used to be. Damn kids...

DarK_PhoeniX_22
09-02-2006, 02:11 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">So just because he might be a vegetarian he's "gay"? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif
im vegetarian
im not gay
some chicks can prove ithttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

@ drunkrepublican:
how can u be drunk without drinking?http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif
i need an answer,this could help in case of emergencyhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gifbtw,max height allowed for sings on ubi forums is 150pixels by heighthttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

drunkrepublican
09-02-2006, 03:13 PM
Better?

DarK_PhoeniX_22
09-03-2006, 08:39 AM
yuphttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

xasspenx
09-03-2006, 10:07 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by drunkrepublican:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by xasspenx:
oh my god.DarkPhoenix has gone to the "light" side. any dude that doesnt eat meat is G@y im sorry but i had to say it.anwyays...Agent 47 would kill Garret and Altair in a minute. u know y? cause 47 has his custom sniper and his ballers and fiber wire. and ALtair and Garret dont even know what 47 looks like. SO HAH! in ur faces! i just ended this topic. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So just because he might be a vegetarian he's "gay"? And I love Hitman and play Blood Money on my 360 EVERY day (Almost have all the achievements!) But I've never seen 47 jump from rooftop to rooftop and hide a blade where his ring finger used to be. Damn kids... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>dude in hitman blood money,47 can hide a kitchen knife or a pistol behind his back. and he can jump from ledge to ledge. in the next game he'll probly get to jump from roof to roof. but i have to make this clear to everyone that thinks Garret is the best assassin. Garret can only hide himself in the dark... when he is in the open, he is screwed...no one knows who 47 really looks like cause hes the best assassin. i dont kno about altair cause i havnt played the game so how can we say Garret vs Altair when we havnt even seen Altair in action??? this topic should end cause it doesnt make sense.

mrsmooth_840
09-03-2006, 10:09 AM
err, I think we know the answer to this one already don't we? I mean, sure garret is an expert in espionage, what with the stealling things and all, and sure he can fight with a dagger but altair can do all this and more, I mean, he's an assassin for christ's sake! on top of that, he's also a tracceur, making him extreamly fexible as to where he wants to go, bluffing garret. and besides that, altair is trained to utalise most weapons and dodge all of them(to a certain extent), just take a look at the trailers. when I saw the trailer, the first thing that came into my head was "what if spider-man, NEO(from the matrix)and sam fisher had a baby, you'd get this guy". so yeah I reckon altair would win.

drunkrepublican
09-03-2006, 11:02 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by xasspenx:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by drunkrepublican:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by xasspenx:
oh my god.DarkPhoenix has gone to the "light" side. any dude that doesnt eat meat is G@y im sorry but i had to say it.anwyays...Agent 47 would kill Garret and Altair in a minute. u know y? cause 47 has his custom sniper and his ballers and fiber wire. and ALtair and Garret dont even know what 47 looks like. SO HAH! in ur faces! i just ended this topic. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So just because he might be a vegetarian he's "gay"? And I love Hitman and play Blood Money on my 360 EVERY day (Almost have all the achievements!) But I've never seen 47 jump from rooftop to rooftop and hide a blade where his ring finger used to be. Damn kids... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>dude in hitman blood money,47 can hide a kitchen knife or a pistol behind his back. and he can jump from ledge to ledge. in the next game he'll probly get to jump from roof to roof. but i have to make this clear to everyone that thinks Garret is the best assassin. Garret can only hide himself in the dark... when he is in the open, he is screwed...no one knows who 47 really looks like cause hes the best assassin. i dont kno about altair cause i havnt played the game so how can we say Garret vs Altair when we havnt even seen Altair in action??? this topic should end cause it doesnt make sense. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, that depends. If Noteriety is in-effect, and you screw up a mission, everyone will know who you are.

xasspenx
09-03-2006, 11:31 AM
well done.

DarK_PhoeniX_22
09-03-2006, 03:44 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">oh my god.DarkPhoenix has gone to the "light" side. any dude that doesnt eat meat is G@y im sorry but i had to say it </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I am not gay.

And in what way does the fact that you eat meat & enjoy it make you more manly?
What is manly in eating animals you did not have the guts to kill yourself?
If you eat chicken or beef or pork or fish,why not eat human flesh too? That'd be nice,together with some paprika & potatoes.What would you eat first,the legs or lungs? Your best friend is someone nice,he must have a good taste too.Cannibals say that pork & human flesh have nearly the same taste.Interesting right? Other people say that dog flesh is the best,tastewise...Would you kill your pet and then put it in a frying pan & eat it as if nothing had happened?
This makes u a man.Isn't that what you are saying?
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

EDIT: Please excuse me if i offended any meat eater.

xasspenx
09-03-2006, 07:00 PM
let me tell u man, when i was a little kid, my grandfather used to take me hunting. he would hunt for quail so he could feed the stray cats at his property. He was a farmer with some rabbits and chickens that he used to eat. He was the first to feed me rabbit. it was awesome! He also grew many fruits and veggies. Which were all very good i add. but if i had to... i would hunt for my food in a heart beat. buy me a rifle and i'll hunt for deer and eat it with much pleasure. People that would eat their pet (dog/cat) would have to be very poor and sick in the head. And im no cannibal. thats sick man. and eating ppl doesnt make u a man that makes u a cannibal and a criminal and sick. Ever since man was on this earth, we hunted for our and used it for our own benefit.Without animals we would never have come to today. SO eat animals just as ur ansestors did. make them proud and b a man just as they were. If i was ur dad i would beat the **** out of u for not eating meat. id call u gay actually.Be a man, and eat some beef.

FableB
09-03-2006, 07:09 PM
I don't know what does that have to do with the thread but hell im gonna spam too http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif...no really

I don't think vegetarian people are gays...maybe they just don't like the idea of eating something that was moving around once...

terminalShock09
09-03-2006, 07:21 PM
Uh oh. (http://www.livescience.com/humanbiology/050802_masculinity.html)

xasspenx
09-03-2006, 07:23 PM
i think that its weird to think like that. just eat and think about how good it tastes lol. just dont eat humans or pets cause thats wrong. read more of my examples above if u feel that converting to veggyism is right for u. u will turn around and tell urself, "Im a man, this piece of steak is for my forefathers!" seriously... just say that.

drunkrepublican
09-03-2006, 10:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by terminalShock09:
Uh oh. (http://www.livescience.com/humanbiology/050802_masculinity.html) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, I'm going into the Naval Surface Warfare Community.....

I should buy an SUV! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

zgubilici
09-03-2006, 10:28 PM
This is the second thread hijacked with the same discriminatory comments related to eating habits and their correlation to masculinity http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

First of all: no discriminatory remarks especially directed at fellow forum members are allowed.

Second of all: if I see this sort of discussion continuing in either thread, in this one or in the demo thread or in any other thread for that matter, those threads will be closed with no other additional pre-warning.

If some of you wish to deliberate more on this subject, do so via PT.

This thread has to go back on topic now.

Thanks.

entropy777
09-04-2006, 01:50 AM
<span class="ev_code_GREY">http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif You people are hillarious.</span>

xasspenx
09-04-2006, 09:41 AM
thank you... thank you very much.

V4iN
09-04-2006, 03:31 PM
Garrett is NOT screwed when he is in the open, and also he does not just 'hide in the dark'.
Garrett has a supernatural ability to remain unseen, an ability he has honed under the Keepers' training. Whether in hiding or not, he has equipment that will help him, such as flash bombs/gas arrows. He is also quite athletic, but not physically strong. Altair uses crowd cover to get to his victim, and then attacks them. Not too subtle. Anyway, the question by the original poster was who would win a fight in different circumstances, not who is the best assassin.

DarK_PhoeniX_22
09-04-2006, 03:47 PM
exactly!
but let's not draw conclusions on a hero too quickly when we didn't even play as himhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

but till now,Garett's the best sneaker imo
sneaking is just passing by un noticed,no matter how u do it,whether ur in the dark or in the light,as long as u pass by unnoticed
see solid snake for instance
he's neither in the shadows nor in the lights,but he moves rather quickly,probablynosily,but he distracts the enemies,thus himself,passing unnoticed
just to say that the sneaking technique doesn't really matter as long as ur job is done succesfully
even hitman,u may be a silent assassin or a psyco,but ur job will be done :P

xasspenx
09-05-2006, 09:21 AM
yeah

FableB
09-05-2006, 10:31 AM
yeah http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Fates.Dark.Hand
09-05-2006, 02:39 PM
maybe http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

xasspenx
09-05-2006, 03:11 PM
not?

AlexCrimson
09-06-2006, 05:53 AM
Ummm, we havent even PLAYED AC yet and were making comparisons? Good grief, I'm voting for Garrett because I already know he takes on super-natural beings as a side job from theiving. I mean, good greif, he beats a god, an insane mechanist, and a glyph-infused super-beast. He takes on undead, has the training of a keeper allowing him to dissapear in a crowd, and in shadows. And he has amazing observation skills (he could see a keeper). He moves like a ghost, and he dosent NEED a bunch of weapons to win... just one.

So far we know that the Assassins creed guy can fight with swords against guards...... and can jump around. Great.

xasspenx
09-06-2006, 07:27 AM
i always knew this topic was pointless.

V4iN
09-06-2006, 01:53 PM
and yet you keep readiing and posting

AltairVirtuoso
09-23-2006, 02:08 AM
Altair would own. Yeah I got bored and did this in like a minute lol; I feel it's relevant de facto: http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/4990/soib2ef0.jpg

AltairVirtuoso
09-23-2006, 08:10 PM
BUMP.

zgubilici
09-23-2006, 09:15 PM
Altairvirtuoso, bumping is not allowed in the forums. The rules are clear (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/5991081444#II). If this topic gets bumped again, it will be closed -fair warning.
Do not double post in the future, use the edit button. Thanks.

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wormgerm
09-24-2006, 02:03 AM
Garret stands in the shadow readies his bow and arrow and BAM kills this altair fellow