PDA

View Full Version : the Templar History



EmperorxZurg
09-14-2009, 11:18 PM
Just thought a complete history thread would be okay so we don't have a thread where everyone bickers about what the Templars did, I'll update once a week once we've agreed on a fact and such under one of the sub-topics, just wanted to give it a shot lol and one for the assassins toohttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
Beginings:

strategies and tactics{weapons}:

important people:

morals and operations of the templars along with rules:

The fall of the Templars:

EmperorxZurg
09-14-2009, 11:18 PM
Just thought a complete history thread would be okay so we don't have a thread where everyone bickers about what the Templars did, I'll update once a week once we've agreed on a fact and such under one of the sub-topics, just wanted to give it a shot lol and one for the assassins toohttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
Beginings:

strategies and tactics{weapons}:

important people:

morals and operations of the templars along with rules:

The fall of the Templars:

MartaVasques
09-15-2009, 03:51 AM
Good idea! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Xanatos2007
09-15-2009, 03:52 AM
No they didn't. http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/sauer/angry-smiley-008.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

desonnac0
09-15-2009, 08:36 AM
So, are we supposed to talk about templar or debate on facts you post about them?

EmperorxZurg
09-15-2009, 06:28 PM
just bring up a piece of history u think u know about them or are questioning and once a certain amount of people have agreed on that fact after debating a bit, like 5 or something. Then it'll be a fact.
EDIT: Here, I'll start off, I read a text a while ago stating Hugh of Paynes created the poor soldiers of Christ to defend the Temple of Solomon, but started being called the Temples for defending the Temple which evolved into the word Templar. Any disputes or other facts about him? I have more, I'm just trying to set the ball rolling lol

desonnac0
09-17-2009, 12:44 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by d1sturbedme_468:
just bring up a piece of history u think u know about them or are questioning and once a certain amount of people have agreed on that fact after debating a bit, like 5 or something. Then it'll be a fact.
EDIT: Here, I'll start off, I read a text a while ago stating Hugh of Paynes created the poor soldiers of Christ to defend the Temple of Solomon, but started being called the Temples for defending the Temple which evolved into the word Templar. Any disputes or other facts about him? I have more, I'm just trying to set the ball rolling lol </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ok- Disagree- Hugh de Payens and Godffrey de St. Omer Founded an order to protect the people making the pilgrimage to Jerusalem.
One of the first orders of combatant MONKS, they were created in 1118 BUT endorsed in 1126 (I think- gotta check it with Wikipedia) and for some unknown reasons, for their order of 9 monks(initially) they were given the Temple mount(thought to be over the temple of Solomon)...
Then came the name Pauperes Commilitiones Christi Templique Sollomonici (I think-... Yeah)

Fun fact- Their white robes- A templar could not appear in public without it- when eating, riding, taking a walk- they weren't allowed to take it off

EmperorxZurg
09-17-2009, 04:02 PM
ok, can we make no Wikipedia references? I like actual facts from books and such, I just don't trust Wikipedia. But yes, you caught my error, although their first intention was merely to protect the Temple of Solomon and the people inside being called the Poor Soldiers of Christ, the name changed however to the Temple protectors due to their vigilance of protecting the Temple and eventually evolved to Templars from that. they were given the summit after the King of Jerusalem paid them a visit and wanted to join them, turning this order of monks into a full-blown knighthood and thus starting the organization. They weren't allowed their robes to be taken off because the white meant they were pure, and everyone in the Templars HAD to be as pure as possible, so this was their symbolism for it

desonnac0
09-17-2009, 11:19 PM
Yeah, I don't much trust Wiki either, but for dates and names- they get THAT right. I'm pretty much writing by memory...
The nine knights that made up the order in the begining were (all relatives- cousins, brothers...) worried that no one was protecting the road to Jerusalem(and actually other parts of the holy land), The king gave them an HQ, but they were officially endorsed by the Pope (With the help of Bernard de Clervaux) they were free of taxes(as a monastic order) they had Jurisdiction in all christian lands, country borders weren't a problem, and they only answered to the Pope ( http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif )
....
Can we agree the king didn't want to join them?

EmperorxZurg
09-18-2009, 03:59 PM
He didn't want to sry, he knew it would be good though as the King of the most religious city in the world to join it since it was controlled by Christians, he also had a private hope to be crowned Holy Roman Emperor by the Pope like Charlemagne did long before

haschishin
09-19-2009, 02:58 PM
There are a couple of books on both the templars and the Assassins, that i have read;

The Templars by Piers Paul Read
and
The Assassins : A Radical Sect in Islam by Bernard Lewis

both books written in a scholarly manner and are both very well written, i was wandering if anyone could suggest anymore books relating to the Templars or The Assassins.

EmperorxZurg
09-20-2009, 01:15 PM
The Templars is actually where I got some of my info, it haas some info about the assassins too in one of the chapters. I'll go look in my library and bring back a book about them