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blue_76
03-22-2006, 06:30 PM
what are all those bodies doing in a factory? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Thousands of German WW2 corpses in Czech factory

Wed Mar 22, 11:22 AM ET

Thousands of corpses of German soldiers killed in World War Two are being kept in boxes in a northern Czech factory due to a lack of funds, officials said Tuesday.

The exhumed bodies have been kept for three years in the rundown factory 90km (54 miles) north of Prague on the border with eastern Germany and are now guarded by police who are waiting for the bodies to be moved.

A Reuters photographer at the site said the remains -- an estimated 4,000 sets in total -- lie in small black boxes as they wait for a new burial site.

The German wartime graves association led a project in the mid-1990s to exhume the remains, which include soldiers who fought across eastern Europe in the war, with plans to bury them in a Prague cemetery until a lack of funds halted the plan.

"We are very sorry, but our People's Association for Care for Wartime Graves has run out of money, so I cannot say what will be done with the remains," Sebastian Gerhardt, a spokesman for the German embassy in Prague was quoted as saying in the daily Mlada Fronta Dnes.

He was not immediately available to comment on the report.

A police spokeswoman said an investigation was ongoing into how the remains ended up at the factory, a former pipe fittings plant.

City officials said talks between the German and Czech foreign ministries were planned for this week to find a solution to the affair.

The Czech Republic, which was invaded by Germany in 1939 just ahead of World War Two, already has some 10 military cemeteries where German war dead are buried.

blue_76
03-22-2006, 06:30 PM
what are all those bodies doing in a factory? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Thousands of German WW2 corpses in Czech factory

Wed Mar 22, 11:22 AM ET

Thousands of corpses of German soldiers killed in World War Two are being kept in boxes in a northern Czech factory due to a lack of funds, officials said Tuesday.

The exhumed bodies have been kept for three years in the rundown factory 90km (54 miles) north of Prague on the border with eastern Germany and are now guarded by police who are waiting for the bodies to be moved.

A Reuters photographer at the site said the remains -- an estimated 4,000 sets in total -- lie in small black boxes as they wait for a new burial site.

The German wartime graves association led a project in the mid-1990s to exhume the remains, which include soldiers who fought across eastern Europe in the war, with plans to bury them in a Prague cemetery until a lack of funds halted the plan.

"We are very sorry, but our People's Association for Care for Wartime Graves has run out of money, so I cannot say what will be done with the remains," Sebastian Gerhardt, a spokesman for the German embassy in Prague was quoted as saying in the daily Mlada Fronta Dnes.

He was not immediately available to comment on the report.

A police spokeswoman said an investigation was ongoing into how the remains ended up at the factory, a former pipe fittings plant.

City officials said talks between the German and Czech foreign ministries were planned for this week to find a solution to the affair.

The Czech Republic, which was invaded by Germany in 1939 just ahead of World War Two, already has some 10 military cemeteries where German war dead are buried.

Kaleun1961
03-22-2006, 06:33 PM
That's a darn shame. Families need to know where their loved ones are buried.

As an example of care, we Canadians have a war graves commission, responsible for the upkeep of cemeteries world wide. I can't imagine that Germany, in spite of the Nazi part of their history, will let this situation continue.

Josef_Schwejk
03-22-2006, 06:40 PM
Oh my god.................

Foehammer-1
03-22-2006, 07:28 PM
Five Germans are still buried under the house my great- and grandparents used to live. In the small village of Green Valley in Eastern Ukraine.

Josef_Schwejk
03-22-2006, 07:56 PM
Oh my fu*king god....................

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janek73
03-23-2006, 12:13 AM
I have read about this a couple days agohttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4818434.stm

bunkerratt
03-23-2006, 01:52 AM
thats just fu..ing wrong ... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Celeon999
03-23-2006, 02:08 AM
There are ten-thousands still missing.


The German wartime graves association found 300 corpes in the near of Wolgograd (former Stalingrad) alone in the year 2002.

About half of them could be identified with names or at least their nationality.

Sometimes they have luck an find some older people who can remember the sites of battles or mass graves where russian or german soldiers were buried in.


I saw an documentary about that a while ago.
There was an woman who searched the grave of her father and found it (or better said believed she found it) in an small russian village.

She knew only the name of the village her father fell in the near of from an old letter a comrade of him wrote to her mother.

They found an old grandma there who remembered that there are three german soldiers buried under an tree in the village.


Dogtags are very rarely found. Mostly remains of boots or medals help identify at least to which nation the soldier belonged.

Other graves have been plundered in search for medals.

In 2001 the corpses of 3 german and one american soldier were found by militaria collectors who searched an forest in belgium with metal detectors. The american soldier could be identified by his dogtag.


But there are also still dozens of corpses from ww-1 found every year.

Josef_Reiter
03-23-2006, 04:41 AM
Its sad after 60+ years these people can't find peace yet. Another horror of war.

Kaleun1961
03-23-2006, 06:28 AM
Somewhat related to what Celeon said about the remains of WW1 soldiers still being found, is the ongoing process of finding and disposal of unexploded ordnance on WW1 battlefields. There was a documentary on History Television a while back which stated that at the present rate of disposal, it will take another 800 years!!!?? to find and neutralize such ordnance. It is estimated that as high as 25% of WW1 artillery rounds were duds, which means that several hundred million rounds landed and did not explode. There are approximately 2-4 dozen casualties each year as farmers, builders and others who work or excavate land accidentally disturb these duds, including those whose job it is to "demine" the land.

Celeon999
03-23-2006, 07:21 AM
We have also a big problem with unexploded ordnance in all major cities but especially here in Berlin.


A few weeks ago another british "cookie" or "residental block buster" was found and defused on an construction site. Its classificated as an heavy air mine http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Enough to blow an whole street block away and thats exactly for what they had been build.


Every year they find up to 20 unexploded bombs somewhere in Berlin.

They assume that it will take up to 200 years until they are all found and defused.



They also use old recon photos from the allied archives to look for small bomb craters on them.
A big crater means an exploded bomb , an small one an dud.

Josef_Schwejk
03-23-2006, 07:30 AM
Same happeneds with Torpedoes!!!

Look Here! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/857101043/...521092314#9521092314 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/857101043/m/9521092314/r/9521092314#9521092314)

Maybe still many FAT eels are someware out there.................... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

ButtSnap
03-23-2006, 10:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kaleun1961:
Somewhat related to what Celeon said about the remains of WW1 soldiers still being found, is the ongoing process of finding and disposal of unexploded ordnance on WW1 battlefields. There was a documentary on History Television a while back which stated that at the present rate of disposal, it will take another 800 years!!!?? to find and neutralize such ordnance. It is estimated that as high as 25% of WW1 artillery rounds were duds, which means that several hundred million rounds landed and did not explode. There are approximately 2-4 dozen casualties each year as farmers, builders and others who work or excavate land accidentally disturb these duds, including those whose job it is to "demine" the land. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I live in Ypres, Belgium.
Here, every year, farmers dig up lots of explosives. Sometimes they find tunnels that have been undiscovered for over 80 years.
When I was 10 years old, they were buidling a new road in the area and in the evening when everybody was gone I went over there with a friend, searching for memorabilia. Every time we came back with bajonets, shoes, sometimes medals or what's left of it, gasmasks... Unbelievable how much is still in the ground here.
We have an organisation who takes care of every human remains that are found but unfortunatly because of construction deadlines sometimes they don't report it... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Here, we had the battle of Passchendaele, Hill 60, 61 in Seelbach, etc.

When in the area you really should visit Ypres. We have battlefield tours, museums...
Really worth a visit. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

T-III
03-23-2006, 11:47 PM
Thats cool, ButtSnapper.
Butt-Snap lol

But really thats crazy that over 60 years later that bombs are still being found. esp. in Cities