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biltongbru
03-02-2008, 10:09 AM
Here is the 1 minute trailer for my coming Stuka tank buster movie :

For high res you can download (9.4Mb) here and play with your win player:

http://www.savefile.com/files/1414952

For a quick view on you tube (bad res and audio) not recommended:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRqQWIxpWfM


Hope you enjoy this!!

biltongbru
03-02-2008, 10:09 AM
Here is the 1 minute trailer for my coming Stuka tank buster movie :

For high res you can download (9.4Mb) here and play with your win player:

http://www.savefile.com/files/1414952

For a quick view on you tube (bad res and audio) not recommended:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRqQWIxpWfM


Hope you enjoy this!!

Jaws2002
03-02-2008, 10:18 AM
Nice. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Deedsundone
03-02-2008, 11:05 AM
Hoaa!Looking forward to this!Nice colours.

JG53_Valantine
03-02-2008, 11:46 AM
Looks great!
What music is that by the way? sounds pretty cool!
V

Choctaw111
03-02-2008, 12:16 PM
That looks REALLY good. I cannot wait to see it. When do you anticipate it being done?

cawimmer430
03-02-2008, 01:21 PM
What are you talking about? Your YouTube video is very high quality and the audio is great! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Looks great. The Stuka in its own way is a lovely bird. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Rammjaeger
03-02-2008, 02:50 PM
Haha, stupid me. I opened this thread thinking it is about an upcoming cinema release. Great movie though!

biltongbru
03-02-2008, 10:19 PM
Hello JG53 Valentine

The music is from Apocalyptica, 4 man all cello group, they play from classics to metallica! Thanks for the complement!

310th Falcon
03-03-2008, 02:07 AM
S! biltongbru

Great trailer...looking forward to the final product! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif


Best Regards

Ernst_Bremmer
03-03-2008, 08:34 AM
Great job! The Stuka is one of my favorite planes.

BWaltteri
03-03-2008, 08:39 AM
Good directing.

Although I'd always love to see more campy stuff.

Wepps
03-03-2008, 09:13 AM
I never did figure out how a 37mm cannon could penetrate Soviet sloped armor like that.

I mean, it took 88s on the ground. I realize that they are coming from the sky, and the armor on top is weaker. But the vast majority of hits would be deflected anyway, and most hits would be side front or rear.

What makes it so effective?

The 37mm AT weapons were obsolete in 1939.

BillyTheKid_22
03-03-2008, 09:13 AM
Cool!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

biltongbru
03-03-2008, 09:36 AM
Hi Wepps

Maybe I got the answer from a book that I read:

The t34 engine area at the back of the tank was thinly armoured on top and the armour was pierced to allow proper cooling. This resulted in a specially vulnerable area. The attacks was then usually done from the rear of the tanks to this specific engine area.The 37mm guns had tungsten projectiles that could penetrate the armour there.

Ordinary ground ordnance could not hit the top engine plates of the t34 but the stukas could.

cpt-rusty
03-03-2008, 09:37 AM
aaah THE question for this stuka..
it has a very simple answer, while the 37mm AT's were obsolete, the germans created a special kind of ammo capable of peircing the armor of a T-34 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif, and explode after penetrating the armor. hitting to the sides was a good plan as these were the tanks ammo store http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif, and the rear was of course the engine, and weres an engine there is fuel that does the rest of the job! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

ps: this knowlege comes from H.U.rudel's book
please tell me if i made any mistakes

Luke5skywalker4
03-03-2008, 09:38 AM
The velocity and RPM of the BK 3.7 cannons were superior compared to the German Infantry Pak36 (37mm) anti-gun. Also add in the fact that the velocity of the rounds increase with the speed of the Ju-87, especially from a dive. The BK 37 used APCR Tungsten rounds or HE (High Explosives). Hitting sloped armor from a top angle would not deter a shell being fired into it. The only advantage of the sloped armor is when a projectile is fired horizontally against it.

Bordkanone BK 37
- Type: single-barrel automatic cannon
- Caliber: 37 mm x 263 (1.46 in)
- Operation: Short Recoil
- Length: 3.63 m (11 ft 11 in)
- Weight: 295 kg (650 lb)
- Rate of fire: 160 rpm
- Muzzle velocity: 1,170 to 780 m/s (3,836 to 2,557 ft/s)
- Projectile weight: APCR 380 g, HE 640 g, AT 685 g
- Ammo Belt Composition APCRT (for Ju-87 G1)
HET (for Bf110 BK 3.7 gunpod)

Pak36
- Caliber: 37 mm L/45
- Rate of fire: 13 rpm
- Muzzle velocity: 762 meters per second
- Weight of the projectile: 0.68 kg
- Range: 5484 m
- Armor penetration at 500 m: 29 mm to 31 mm at 30 degrees, depending on shell type

cpt-rusty
03-03-2008, 09:39 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by biltongbru:
Hi Wepps

Maybe I got the answer from a book that I read:

The t34 engine area at the back of the tank was thinly armoured on top and the armour was pierced to allow proper cooling. This resulted in a specially vulnerable area. The attacks was then usually done from the rear of the tanks to this specific engine area.The 37mm guns had tungsten projectiles that could penetrate the armour there.

Ordinary ground ordnance could not hit the top engine plates of the t34 but the stukas could. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gifi guess i spoke too late http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

Wepps
03-03-2008, 10:00 AM
Good info thanks.

Muzzle velocity, engine compartment.

Rammjaeger
03-04-2008, 11:55 AM
With respect to aiming at the engine: I suppose there weren't that many Schlachtfliegern who could hit a circle with roughly 1 m radius, flying a plane at more than 300 km/h, diving at an angle of 45-60 degrees, with that sort of weaponry (low ROF, 12 rounds of ammo). Rudel's reputation is well-deserved indeed.

biltongbru
03-04-2008, 11:51 PM
"Early on the morning of the 9th February a telephone call from H.Q.: Frankfurt has just reported that last night the Russians bridged the Oder at Lebus, slightly north of Frankfurt and with some tanks have already gained a footing on the west bank. The situation is more than critical; at this point there is no opposition on the ground and there is no possibility of bringing up heavy artillery there in time to stop them. So there is nothing to prevent the Soviet tanks from rolling on towards the capital, or at least straddling the railway and the autobahn from Frankfurt to Berlin, both vital supply lines for the establishment of the Oder front.

We fly there to find out what truth there is in this report. From afar I can already make out the pontoon bridge, we encounter intense flak a long way before we reach it. The Russians certainly have a rod in pickle for us! One of my squadrons attacks the bridge across the ice. We have no great illusions about the results we shall achieve, knowing as we do that Ivan has such quantities of bridge-building material that he can repair the damage in less than no time. I myself fly lower with the anti-tank flight on the look-out for tanks on the west bank of the river. I can discern their tracks but not the monsters themselves. Or are these the tracks of A.A. tractors? I come down lower to make sure and see, well camouflaged in the folds the the river valley, some tanks an the northern edge of the village of Lebus. There are perhaps a dozen or fifteen of them. Then something smacks against my wing, a hit by light flak. I keep low, guns are flashing all over the place, at a guess six or eight batteries are protecting the river crossing. The flak gunners appear to be old hands at the game with long Stuka experience behind them. They are not using tracers, one sees no string of beads snaking up at one, but one only realises that they have opened up when the aircraft shudders harshly under the impact of a hit. They stop firing as soon as we climb and so our bombers cannot attack them. Only when one is flying very low above our objective can one see the spurt of flame from the muzzle of a gun like the flash of a pocket torch. I consider what to do; there is no chance of coming in cunningly behind cover as the flat river valley offers no opportunities for such tactics. There are no tall trees or buildings. Sober reflection tells me that experience and tactical skill go by the board if one breaks all the fundamental rules derived from them. The answer: a stubborn attack and trust to luck. If I had always been so foolhardy I should have been in my grave a dozen times. There are no troops here on the ground and we are fifty miles from the capital of the Reich, a perilously short distance when the enemy's armour is already pushing towards it. There is no time for ripe consideration.

This time you will have to trust to luck, I tell myself, and in I go. I tell the other pilots to stay up; there are several new crews among them and while they cannot be expected to do much damage with this defence we are likely to suffer heavier losses than are worth the candle. When I come in low and as soon as they see the flash of the A.A. guns they are to concentrate their cannon fire on the flak. There is always the chance that this will get Ivan rattled and affect his accuracy. There are several Stalin tanks there, the rest are T 34s. After four have been set on fire and I have run out of ammunition we fly back. I report my observations and stress the fact that I have only attacked because we are fighting fifty miles from Berlin, otherwise it would be inexcusable. If we were holding a line further east I should have waited for a more favourable situation, or at least until the tanks had driven out of range of their flak screen round the bridge. I change aircraft after two sorties because they have been hit by flak. Back a fourth time and a total of twelve tanks are ablaze. I am buzzing a Stalin tank which is emitting smoke but refuses to catch fire.

Each time before coming in to the attack I climb to 2400 feet as the flak cannot follow me to this altitude. From 2400 feet I scream down in a steep dive, weaving violently. When I am close to the tank I straighten up for an instant to fire, and then streak away low above the tank 'with the same evasive tactics until I reach a point where I can begin to climb again-out of range of the flak. I really ought to come in slowly and with my aircraft better controlled, but this would be suicide. I am only able to straighten up for the fraction of a second and hit the tank accurately in its vulnerable parts thanks to my manifold experience and somnambulistic assurance. Such attacks are, of course, out of the question for my colleagues for the simple reason that they have not the experience.

The pulses throb in my temples. I know that I am playing cat and mouse with fate, but this Stalin tank has got to be set alight. Up to 2400 feet once more and on to the sixty ton leviathan. It still refuses to burnt Rage seizes me; it must and shall catch fire!

The red light indicator on my cannon winks. That tool On one side the breech has jammed, the other cannon has therefore only one round left. I climb again. Is it not madness to risk everything again for the sake of a single shot? Don't argue; how often have you put paid to a tank with a single shot?

It takes a long time to gain 2400 feet with a Ju. 87; far too long, for now I begin to weigh the pros and cons. My one ego says: if the thirteenth tank has not yet caught fire you needn't imagine you can do the trick with one more shot. Fly home and remunition, you will find it again all right. To this my other ego heatedly replies:
"Perhaps it requires just this one shot to stop the tank from rolling on through Germany."

"Rolling on through Germany sounds much too melodramatic! A lot more Russian tanks are going to roll on through Germany if you bungle it now, and you will bungle it, you may depend upon that. It is madness to go down again to that level far the sake of a single shat. Sheer lunacy!"

"You will say next that I shall. bungle it because it is the thirteenth. Superstitious nonsense! You have one round left, so stop shilly-shallying and get cracking!"

And already I zoom down from 2400 feet. Keep your mind on your flying, twist and turn; again a score of guns spit fire at me. Now I straighten up . . , fire . . . the tank bursts into a blaze! With jubilation in my heart, I streak away low above the burning tank. I go into a climbing spiral ... a crack in the engine and something sears through my leg like a strip of red hot steel. Everything goes black before my eyes, I gasp for breath. But I must keep flying . . , flying ... I must not pass out. Grit your teeth, you have to master your weakness. A spasm of pain shoots through my whole body.

"Ernst, my right leg is gone."

"No, your leg won't be gone. If it were you wouldn't be able to speak. But the left wing is on fire. You'll have to come down, we've been hit twice by 4 cm. flak."

An appalling darkness veils my eyes, I can no longer make out anything.

"Tell me where I can crash-land. Then get me out quickly so that I am not burnt alive."

I cannot see a thing any more, I pilot by instinct. I remember vaguely that I came in to each attack from south to north and banked left as I flew out. I must therefore be headed west and in the right direction for home. So I fly on for several minutes. Why the wing is not already gone I do not know. Actually I am moving north north west almost parallel to the Russian front.

"Pull!" shouts Gadermann through the intercom, and now I feel that I am slowly dozing off into a kind of fog , . . a pleasant coma.

"Pull!" yells Gadermann again - were those trees or telephone wires? I have lost all sensation in my mind and pull the stick only when Gadermann yells at me. If this searing pain in my leg would only stop ... and this flying ... if I could let myself sink at last into this queer, grey peace and remoteness which invites me . . .

"Pull!" Once again I wrench automatically at the joystick, but now for an instant Gadermann has "shouted me awake." In a flash I realise that I must do something here. "What's the terrain like?" I ask into the microphone. "Bad - hummocky."

But I have to come down, otherwise the dangerous apathy brought on from my wounded body will again steal over me. I kick the rudder-bar with my left foot and howl with agony. But surely it was my right leg that was hit? Pull to the right, I bring the nose of the aircraft up and slide her gently onto her belly, in this way perhaps the release gear of the under¬carriage will not function and I can make it after all. If not we shall pancake. The aircraft is on fire ... she bumps and skids for a second.

Now I can rest, now I can slip away into the grey distance , . . wonderfull! Maddening pains jerk me back into consciousness. Is someone pulling me about? . . . Are we jolting over rough ground? Now it is over. At last I sink utterly into the arms of silence. . . ."

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general_kalle
03-05-2008, 06:37 AM
nice. how did you merge the IL2 gunsight with maps from Call of duty - United offensive?
and a plane cocpit i not quite recognize?

i have been soldier in call of duty on those fields alot of times.
that railyard. oh i have fought there so much

biltongbru
03-05-2008, 07:35 AM
Hello gen kalle

The gunsight is a bit of a modified Ju87 IL2 sight, but the real movie will feature the complete JU 87 cockpit view.
I used the spectator pan in COD to create the movement and a 2nd person on the multiplay to fire with a tank out of view at the right moment to create the explosion on the target. The tracer and cockpit is blue screened merged onto the COD image. The same with the AC's you see flying around on the COD images....I favour the COD environment because of the nice ground detail that is missing with IL2..

Rudel1965
03-05-2008, 09:01 AM
Very nice!

FliegerAas
03-05-2008, 12:13 PM
sounds like a lot of work. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

biltongbru
03-06-2008, 02:00 AM
Yes, a lot of work but a lot of fun! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif, same with the skinners and mission builders!