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MB_Avro_UK
07-19-2007, 05:28 PM
Hi all,

There are a couple of threads running here regarding the Battle of Britain.

(The Battle of Britain ran from July to October 1940).

This is the best book on the subject. The author is top-notch and in my opinion has something worthy to say.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/MB_Avro/IMGP6679.jpg

The Battle of Britain involved a small number of fighter pilots against a larger number of enemy fighter pilots and bombers.

And it must be remembered, enemy fighter pilots and bomber pilots who thought that they were the best in the world.

Can you imagine being one of twelve Hurricane fighter planes attacking over 150 bombers and fighters in the defence of your country in 1940?

Also, I read in this book about a Luftwaffe Dornier bomber pilot who had been wounded and his navigator flew the plane home to France.The pilot cried 'Nach Hause' (get me home).The navigator received the Knights Cross.


Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

MB_Avro_UK
07-19-2007, 05:28 PM
Hi all,

There are a couple of threads running here regarding the Battle of Britain.

(The Battle of Britain ran from July to October 1940).

This is the best book on the subject. The author is top-notch and in my opinion has something worthy to say.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/MB_Avro/IMGP6679.jpg

The Battle of Britain involved a small number of fighter pilots against a larger number of enemy fighter pilots and bombers.

And it must be remembered, enemy fighter pilots and bomber pilots who thought that they were the best in the world.

Can you imagine being one of twelve Hurricane fighter planes attacking over 150 bombers and fighters in the defence of your country in 1940?

Also, I read in this book about a Luftwaffe Dornier bomber pilot who had been wounded and his navigator flew the plane home to France.The pilot cried 'Nach Hause' (get me home).The navigator received the Knights Cross.


Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

leitmotiv
07-19-2007, 07:03 PM
Ashamed to say, haven't read it yet, but it is on me shelf. Have read everything else on the Battle several times. My favorite is 111 Squadron, Hurricanes; the first squadron to get Hurricanes, thus, most experienced. They perfected the wing tip-to-wing tip assault on German bomber formations. Scared the hell out of them. Instant broken formations. Very hard to find photos of Hurricanes of this squadron from the Battle.

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
07-19-2007, 07:32 PM
Not read that one yet but I think anyone here owes it to them selves to read the following

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luftluuver
07-19-2007, 07:40 PM
Seen it recommended on other boards as a top-notch book on Bob. One day will have to get it.

leitmotiv
07-19-2007, 07:46 PM
Have FIRST LIGHT, too. Haven't read. It's all IL-2's fault. Made me an ilitarat illeterat illit elletret uh non-reader.

zardozid
07-19-2007, 08:19 PM
I always liked this coffee table reference book...

"The Battle of Britain" by Richard Townshend Bickers

http://www.battleofbritain.net/bobhsoc/book-bickers.jpg



(I call it a coffee table reference book because of the great color pictures and maps.)

3.JG51_BigBear
07-19-2007, 08:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MB_Avro_UK:

This is the best book on the subject. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It better be http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif, I just bought it on Amazon. Its going for a very reasonable price there.

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
07-19-2007, 08:57 PM
On the strength of fighter boys I will be adding this one to my collection very soon.

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Gumtree
07-19-2007, 09:04 PM
Have to say I have just finished reading both 'the most dangerous enemy and fighter boys' both very good reads.

I would say Stephen Bungay's book is superior and along with Len Deightons 'Fighter' are for me the stand out books on the subject.

Urufu_Shinjiro
07-19-2007, 09:19 PM
I thought Duel of Eagles by Peter Townsend was the best book on the battle of britain ever written. Says so on the cover, lol.

Tank50
07-19-2007, 10:40 PM
I just finished "The Battle of Britain" by Richard Hough and Denis Richards. Gives an in-depth look at the impact that the decisions,systems and support infrastucture played in the victory.Also tracks what was happening month by month as the battle progressed. Very good read.

I read Wellum's "First Light" years ago. It is a very good first person account of what it was like to progress from trainee to fighter pilot. Can recommend it without reservation.

leitmotiv
07-19-2007, 10:53 PM
Read Deighton, Townsend, and Hough and thought all were superior with a big edge to Hough for the finest pure history. THE HARDEST DAY by Price was very good, too. BATTLE OVER BRITAIN by Mason is very old but the day-by-day tables of losses and raid details give you an excellent feel for the rhythm of the fighting. Deighton's irreverent tone is refreshing.

blakduk
07-19-2007, 10:59 PM
I agree with MB_Avro_UK- Stephan Bungay's book is the most plausible account i have read of the battle of britain.
I especially like the author's examination of the mythology surrounding this battle, how it was engineered, and WHY this mythology was so important.

If you read it in conjunction with John Lukacs book 'Five Days in London: May 1940' it gives a thorough account of that whole period.

I believe it was the most significant six months in world history in the 20th century.

Feathered_IV
07-20-2007, 02:10 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tHeBaLrOgRoCkS:
Not read that one yet but I think anyone here owes it to them selves to read the following

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http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/41JEEVM7HAL._SS500_.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

First Light is one of the best. A must read. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Xiolablu3
07-20-2007, 06:30 AM
I have read Len Deightons 'Fighter' and thought it was good apart from one part.

He breifly talks about turning circles, and is the first person I have EVER seen say that the Bf109E could turn inside a Hurricane.

Now that would be OK, if he explained WHY, or gave some sources, but he says nothing at all on the subject. Just some extrememly simple curves. Its OK to go against the grain, but you MUST give reasons as to why you think that way.

This sort of spoilt the book for me and made me question his other points.

WTE_Ibis
07-20-2007, 06:44 AM
If you check the covers of the books below
you will see that Britain only needed three aircraft to get the job done.

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flyingloon
07-20-2007, 06:49 AM
i've read bungays book so often i need to get a new copy! very detailed and gives thorough examination to a lot of the issues surrounding the battle, such as the political climate (how close we were to not even fighting it) and the aircraft production, tactical developments, rotation between the various sectors training of replacement pilots aspect. i did like the bit describing how they would interrogate luftwaffe pilots and basically tell them who their commanding officer was, their unit strength and what they had for breakfast. first ligt is another good one, but it seemed to end to soon... what happened to him after malta?

stathem
07-20-2007, 06:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
I have read Len Deightons 'Fighter' and thought it was good apart from one part.

He breifly talks about turning circles, and is the first person I have EVER seen say that the Bf109E could turn inside a Hurricane.

Now that would be OK, if he explained WHY, or gave some sources, but he says nothing at all on the subject. Just some extrememly simple curves. Its OK to go against the grain, but you MUST give reasons as to why you think that way.

This sort of spoilt the book for me and made me question his other points. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Read Bungay, Xiola. He addresses that issue with Deighton's book.

I'm not going to go into here, cos

1) Too contentious

2) Haven't got a copy of The Most Dangerous Enemy at the moment.

F19_Orheim
07-20-2007, 07:31 AM
War in a Stringbag by Charles Lamb

http://www.orionbooks.co.uk/graphics/covers/18086.jpg

An exceptional book written by an exceptional pilot in the British Navy's Fleet Air - too few books are written about these fantastic, capable but obsolete birds....

He was the last to land on HMS Courageous before it got sunk in september 1939, and he decribes the sinking very vividly.... I will have a hard time playing Silenthunter after this one.


Highly recommendable

zugfuhrer
07-20-2007, 10:59 AM
I wote for len deightons book fighter The true story about the Battle of Britain.
And to be complete read Blitzkrieg- From the rise of Hitler to the fall of Dunkirk by the same author.
The Blitzkrieg book gives the background and prelude, and the fighterpilot givs the story.

Xiolablu3
07-20-2007, 11:25 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stathem:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
I have read Len Deightons 'Fighter' and thought it was good apart from one part.

He breifly talks about turning circles, and is the first person I have EVER seen say that the Bf109E could turn inside a Hurricane.

Now that would be OK, if he explained WHY, or gave some sources, but he says nothing at all on the subject. Just some extrememly simple curves. Its OK to go against the grain, but you MUST give reasons as to why you think that way.

This sort of spoilt the book for me and made me question his other points. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Read Bungay, Xiola. He addresses that issue with Deighton's book.

I'm not going to go into here, cos

1) Too contentious

2) Haven't got a copy of The Most Dangerous Enemy at the moment. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks mate I will search it out. WHats the full title and auther please?

stathem
07-20-2007, 12:24 PM
Sorry, it's the book the thread is about. Just looked through and realised everyone's just posted pics of it, not the title.

Here you are (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Most-Dangerous-Enemy-History-Britain/dp/1854108018/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/202-5617224-1150248?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1184955504&sr=8-1)

You won't regret getting it.

horseback
07-20-2007, 12:37 PM
Read Deighton's book quite some time ago, and didn't get anything new-I think his fiction about the period was far superior (I loved Goodbye, Mickey Mouse, for example).

I've read Townshend's stuff, the Tuck and Bader bios, Gibson's Enemy Coast Ahead, Richard Hillary's The Last Enemy, Geoffrey Page's Tale of a Guinea-Pig, and just finished Richey's Fighter Pilot.

I'm currently midway through Fighter Boys, and I like it very much so far, but my favorite so far is still The Last Enemy. I read it for the first time over twenty years ago, and it had a great impact.

cheers

horseback