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XyZspineZyX
08-08-2003, 05:00 PM
For those so interested, go here for an interesting discussion of LW WW2 fighter attrition rates and losses -


http://www.butler98.freeserve.co.uk/thtrlosses.htm


Short story - between Sept 43 and Oct 44 the attrition rate for the LW in the West was one loss for every 19 sorties; in the East it was one loss for every 142 sorties. This based upon Groehler's book, "St√¬§rke, Verteilung und Verluste der deutschen Luftwaffe im zweiten Weltkrieg", Milit√¬§rgeschichte 17, pp. 316-336 (1978).



Blutarski

XyZspineZyX
08-08-2003, 05:00 PM
For those so interested, go here for an interesting discussion of LW WW2 fighter attrition rates and losses -


http://www.butler98.freeserve.co.uk/thtrlosses.htm


Short story - between Sept 43 and Oct 44 the attrition rate for the LW in the West was one loss for every 19 sorties; in the East it was one loss for every 142 sorties. This based upon Groehler's book, "St√¬§rke, Verteilung und Verluste der deutschen Luftwaffe im zweiten Weltkrieg", Milit√¬§rgeschichte 17, pp. 316-336 (1978).



Blutarski

XyZspineZyX
08-08-2003, 05:48 PM
that certainly backs up a point you made to me in another thread; interesting reading!

Thanks for the link.

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XyZspineZyX
08-08-2003, 05:57 PM
Interesting ..... the ruskies are not gonna like this one, LOL

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XyZspineZyX
08-08-2003, 10:42 PM
That's a very interesting period for comparison, unfortunately the nature of missions on west and east front was completely different. One interesting comparison would be between sorties/losses in fighter sweep missions, but I never saw such comparison.
I think nobody doubts the fact that bomber interception missions were the most dangerous (especially US bombers).

XyZspineZyX
08-08-2003, 10:53 PM
Interesting read, thanks... what bugs me tho...ones i remember seeing a site somewhere with the list of at least couple of hundred top LW pilots...starting from Hartmann and down the ladder by victories in the air. And 90% of the locations where those aces were killed or missing in action...is the easter front.
Doesn`t make sence...but thanks again.

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XyZspineZyX
08-09-2003, 12:52 AM
Yes it does make sense because not to many pilots fought on both fronts.As the top of the thread points out it was harder to stay fighting in the west for the lw(death,wounding.etc).Every "ace" book or interview of lw pilots said the western front was harder.So in the west they couldn't rack up the scores like in the east.Also in the west you probably did one sortie per day,in the east as much as 6 or 7.One german ace (forget his name) said that attacking the american bombers was like controlled suicide.That is also where a lot of people got the idea that the german "kills" were padded.To get the knights cross you had to get so many "points" and a four engine bomber was worth "4 points".Alot of the allied writing after the war tried to turn points into kills to refute the lw's #'s.