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Mosin_91
10-09-2005, 12:13 AM
And ended up having an adventure. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I collect WW2 rifles. It is an expensive but rewarding hobbie IMO. So I am browsing around, I am looking for a replacement bolt for my M91/30, because I think the firing pin is going bad, http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gifand I end up buying this beautiful M48 Mauser with FLAWLESS bore and good stock. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

"Well, whats a toy without batteries?" so I went looking for ammo. Durring this process I passed two people who asked, "what is that you are carrying and how much for it?" This had never happened to me even though I have attended many a gunshow. Anyway, I bump into this really nice man who gives me some tips about how to restore the wood stock of my enthusiasticly, eye appeasing new purchase. I ended up spending a 30 min conversation about how great Mausers are and even today they are the better shooters over enfields or Mosins.

It turned out to be a great day. I got a Mauser, Got ammo for my other war rifles at a discount price and met someone really nice who gave me some really cool tips on restoring antiche wood stoks.

When I talk to my friends I usualy get "you go to gunshows??? !!!!!!" I don't think gunshow people are freaks at all. I enjoy talking to the old vets and personally think that the old war rifles are better than some of the newer firearms because of the history asotiated with them.

Anyway, just thought I would share what a great day it turned out to be. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Mosin_91
10-09-2005, 12:13 AM
And ended up having an adventure. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I collect WW2 rifles. It is an expensive but rewarding hobbie IMO. So I am browsing around, I am looking for a replacement bolt for my M91/30, because I think the firing pin is going bad, http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gifand I end up buying this beautiful M48 Mauser with FLAWLESS bore and good stock. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

"Well, whats a toy without batteries?" so I went looking for ammo. Durring this process I passed two people who asked, "what is that you are carrying and how much for it?" This had never happened to me even though I have attended many a gunshow. Anyway, I bump into this really nice man who gives me some tips about how to restore the wood stock of my enthusiasticly, eye appeasing new purchase. I ended up spending a 30 min conversation about how great Mausers are and even today they are the better shooters over enfields or Mosins.

It turned out to be a great day. I got a Mauser, Got ammo for my other war rifles at a discount price and met someone really nice who gave me some really cool tips on restoring antiche wood stoks.

When I talk to my friends I usualy get "you go to gunshows??? !!!!!!" I don't think gunshow people are freaks at all. I enjoy talking to the old vets and personally think that the old war rifles are better than some of the newer firearms because of the history asotiated with them.

Anyway, just thought I would share what a great day it turned out to be. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

stansdds
10-09-2005, 05:25 AM
I go when I can and sometimes I go just to talk with some of the vendors and a bunch of friends. I'm still kicking myself for a stupid mistake I made years ago. I spied a nice M98 Mauser and proceeded to look it over. Portugese crest, waffenamt markings on all the parts, all numbers matching, $175. I passed because I did not feel that I hade $175 to spend. Evidently the vendor figured out what he had, next show it was $400. As the saying goes, he who hesitates is lost.

VW-IceFire
10-09-2005, 06:48 AM
Sounds like it was a good day.

We all have hobbies...usually more than one. The people who don't have hobbies are the ones I worry about...I mean you have to have something that drives you and makes you interested in something.

J_Weaver
10-09-2005, 08:59 AM
Thats sounds like a great find and a great day! I'm currently pinching pennies for an M1 Garand. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Mosin_91
10-09-2005, 09:28 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by J_Weaver:
Thats sounds like a great find and a great day! I'm currently pinching pennies for an M1 Garand. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I hear you. The M1 is on my "to get list", but I just don't have $1,000 to blow on a whim. Like everybody else I have a wine taste on a beer budget. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

mtnman4
10-09-2005, 09:47 AM
Indeed! it sounds like a great day!

I too collect WWI & WWII rifles. It is a passion. M48 is a good rifle. My Mauser still has the Eagle/Swastika stamping on the receiver. It was made in 1939 at the Oberndorf factory in Germany. I noticed you mentioned the 91/30. Great firearm!. I was lucky to aquire one at a gunshow in near mint condition for $100 last year. Stamped on it is the year of mfg.- 1926.
All these rifles are great shooters. I wish they could talk... oh the stories they could tell! I have rifles from just about every country that fought in WWII except an Italian Carcano but am still searching. Keep it up, it's money well spent.

poymando
10-09-2005, 10:26 AM
mtnman4..What kind of Carcano are you looking for?

BSR_RuGGBuTT
10-09-2005, 10:56 AM
I traded a Ruger Redhawk in .44 mag that I had shot the heck out of to a guy who was tired of his Garand. It was in great shape, I'm sure I got the better deal.

I lub that gun.

Chuck_Older
10-09-2005, 11:19 AM
I still want an M-14...

ElAurens
10-09-2005, 12:39 PM
You don't have to pay $1000 for an M1 Garand.

Contact the Civilian Marksmanship Program, jump through the hoops, and purchase one for less than half that. They will require a certain number of rounds fired in competetion at an affiliated club.
Do it. You will learn about your shooting skills and make some new friends too. And don't worry about not having a "target" rifle. Most clubs will let new shooters slide with any service rifle. I shot my first year of competetion with a Model 1896 Swedish Mauser.

And don't get all caught up in getting a Winchester manufactured M1. Collectors get all hot under the collar over them and for no reason other than John Wayne shot a Winchester. They are functionally identical to an M1 made by the other manufacturers, and, usually are not finished nearly as well, IMHO.

Chuck, I did one season of High Power with a borrowed Springfield M1A (civilian M14). They are great rifles, and I share your desire for one as well. They are quite pricey though.

Chuck_Older
10-09-2005, 01:19 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ElAurens:
Chuck, I did one season of High Power with a borrowed Springfield M1A (civilian M14). They are great rifles, and I share your desire for one as well. They are quite pricey though. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I picked up a "want advertiser" here a while back and prices for rifles for parts was about 1500 bucks! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

I need to pick up my FID and handgun permit before the anti-American Constitution haters in this crummy Commonwealth make it illegal. Hunting purposes my left butt check. "Shall not be infringed" is how it reads http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Someday I'll pick up that rifle. My Dad's got a Singer-made 1903 Springfield and an 1875 model. I wouldn't shoot the 1875 but I'd like to take the 1903 for some shooting. He used to have an M1 Garand, too, but he traded it, foolishly. I think he got a pair of parade stocks for the 1903, and the 1875 for it

Stackhouse25th
10-09-2005, 01:27 PM
i collect some guns.. just dont go 'bubba' your rifle, that means alter it, tap and drill it etc etc...if you do anything, make sure its 100% reversible.

there are quite a few people who hate those who bubba their rifle. besides the value of it goes down 90% when you change an old mil rifle.

ElAurens
10-09-2005, 02:18 PM
Chuck, a new M1A standard from Springfield Armory with a fiberglass stock lists for just under $1500, and most dealers have some wiggle room on that price. Don't buy a clapped out parts gun that you will have to pay to have assembled.

mtnman4
10-09-2005, 02:42 PM
Polymando...

I'm looking for a 6.5 Italian Carcano from either the '30's or early '40's. It should have a six round magazine on it. Most aren't in top condition, but I'll take a look at any of them.

Slater_51st
10-09-2005, 04:04 PM
Hi,

Mausers are AWESOME, if you can't tell by my sig. Plus, I just picked up another K98, Yugo repatriation rifle...absolutely beautiful Weimer era(still got 2 or 3 Weimer proofs), walnut.

Got my M-1 through the CMP over the summer, the stock was a bit of a beater, got a new one for $15 at a local store. Absolutely love it, best $350 I've ever spent!

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/MustangSlater67/Korea.jpg

S! Slate

huggy87
10-09-2005, 04:16 PM
My dad and I collect too. We have quite a collection and it constantly amazes him at how much the prices have gone up since he was a boy. I just wish my grandfather hadn't gotten rid of the MP-40 he brought home.

Stackhouse25th
10-09-2005, 04:19 PM
thats great, i have 10,000 rounds of 8mm mauser ammo, and 3 M24/47's, and yugo SKS. Lottta fun. 8mm is such an under rated cartridge. it's quite literally the best ever made, right next to 3006

RogueRunner
10-09-2005, 04:27 PM
I envy you guys!! It is simply impossible for us in South Africa to collect weapons with our new gun laws. You guys walk into a show and buy your rifle and walk out with it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Here we buy a handgun/rifle in a acredited shop and have to wait as long as 8 - 9 months for the license to be approved http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Oh well...

I do IDPA comps though and this is my toys I do it with. It's a Glock 24, Franky semi auto 12 guage and Vektor LM5 rifle.

http://hagar.up.ac.za/christo/gun3.jpg

Rifle was fitted with this Aimpoint though a couple month ago.

http://hagar.up.ac.za/christo/rifle/aim1.jpg

Mosin_91
10-09-2005, 05:03 PM
Alright you guys, what would you do ...

You bought a WW2 gun with a good stock and perfect bore. Do you ...

1. leave it alone

2. heat the wood and soak all the cosmalene and hand grease out of the wood and touch up some of the blueing.

Is it worth re touching u the bluing and restoring the stock or leave it be?

WB_Outlaw
10-09-2005, 05:48 PM
Does anyone know if there are any civilian AK-74s on the market? I've seen "kits" that are nothing more than a stamped reciever. After you do a bit of machining the rest of the pieces are picked up as replacement parts and assembled. Now that the assanine assault rifle ban has expired I was hoping to see some here in Houston but so far I haven't.

--Outlaw.

han freak solo
10-09-2005, 10:54 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ElAurens:
I shot my first year of competetion with a Model 1896 Swedish Mauser. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I've got one of these sweet Swedes, too. Issued in 1900. It's now a non-shooter because it puts a small crack in the cartidge case after firing. It was only $80 in 1995. I got my money's worth.

I can only drool over a Garand. I've been lucky enough to shoot my brother's Garand. What a sweet rifle! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

ElAurens
10-10-2005, 10:44 AM
Han, that sounds like a headspace issue. A competent gunsmith should be able to fix it.

faelas
10-10-2005, 12:29 PM
Mosin_91

If your gun is a historical piece (all matching serial numbers ect) then DON'T reblue anything. Just keep it rust free and try not to wear off any more of what's left. I'm a long time collecter and re-enactor and a firm believer in "Don't shoot collector's weapons!". If you really like your K-98, or M-1, or whatever, buy two. Use one for "collecting only" and get a mismatched beater for shooting. I learned that the hard way shooting a G-43 at a competition a few years back. Late war steel was of dubious quality and the bolt carrier broke in half, probly the result of bad springs. If you absolutely must shoot your collector's rifle, get a few spare parts like bolts, firing pins and bolt carriers and by all means NEW PRODUCTION SPRINGS and save your SN matching parts that might break in shooting a 50+ year old firearm. I still think that any time a collector's grade weapon is fired it's like taking a fingernail to the Mona Lisa... every little scrath makes a difference. Two hundred years from now there won;t be many of these WW2 weapons around, and we need to do everything we can to preserve what few true collector's grade ones are left.

My collection has included all matching german K-98 made in 1938 with appropriate markings complete with an original matching ZF-41 scope and all accessories, a Walther G-43, and a G-41 (yep!) of the Walther design, and several lesser firearms as well as a couple dozen modern ones. I'd have to say my favorite WW2 shooter as far as bolt-action goes is the K-98.

han freak solo
10-10-2005, 04:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ElAurens:
Han, that sounds like a headspace issue. A competent gunsmith should be able to fix it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I believe you are right. What do you think a gunsmith would charge?

What's involved anyway? A new bolt? Machine work to the chamber?

J_Weaver
10-10-2005, 05:54 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by faelas:
My collection has included all matching german K-98 made in 1938 with appropriate markings complete with an original matching ZF-41 scope and all accessories, a Walther G-43, and a G-41 (yep!) of the Walther design, and several lesser firearms as well as a couple dozen modern ones. I'd have to say my favorite WW2 shooter as far as bolt-action goes is the K-98. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Man thats quite a collection!

Between me my dad and my grandad, we have 3 Mausers (K98 1942, VZ24 1938 and a 7mm mauser made in 1913), 2 M1 Carbines, 03 Springfeld, 3 Enfields (including a 30-06 M1917) Thats just the military firearms. One of my prized pieces is a S&W 2nd Model Hand Ejector in .455 Eley made in 1916.

As for the M1 Garands, I'm tempted to get one of the new ones from Springfield.

ElAurens
10-10-2005, 06:35 PM
Han F. S.,

No idea on costs. Every gunsmith is different.

The fix would either be a new bolt or a new barrel. There used to be quite a few NOS barrels in circulation for the M96. Find a good smith in your area and ask him.

The Swede is worth saving IMHO. The M96 Swedish Mausers built in Sweden under license are probably the finest made, and best shooting of all the various Mauser models.

mtnman4
10-10-2005, 07:02 PM
WB_Outlaw.

There are many civilian AK's out there. Both in 7.62 & 5.45.

Here are a few of the best ones made.
http://www.arsenalinc.com

http://www.krebscustom.com

I also use this site alot,( it's e-bay for firearms). http://www.auctionarms.com

You can also go to your local magazine stand or bookstore & buy a copy of Shotgun news. It has numerous firearm related items.

Bucky_Goldstein
10-11-2005, 01:06 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">
Got my M-1 through the CMP over the summer, the stock was a bit of a beater, got a new one for $15 at a local store. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What exactly do you mean by "beater"? I can see your Garand has a WW2 rear sight and milled trigger guard. The stock wasn't WW2 too, was it? If it was, can I buy it for $15.00? What's the serial # on your rifle?

I bought a Danish, CMP Garand at a gunshow for $500.00. The only thing that wasn't WW2 on it was a Baretta barrell band. You could say the stock on my Garand was a beater too, but I wouldn't take a million bucks for it. It's got a GAW cartouche, proof marks, with clip<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre"> </pre> dimples on the buttstock and receiver side. It's got a '43 barrell and a '44 reciever. Weird, if you know the history of these things I like to think it was a true battle rifle. Had the barrell shot out during the Battle fo the Bulge and replaced afterwords. Probably not, but a guy can dream.

Here's a photo of it (and my Ishapore Enfield.)

http://www.npt.com/~scott/firearms/m1_ishy.jpg

http://www.npt.com/~scott/firearms/m1_ishy.jpg