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S VIIC_41
04-24-2005, 01:57 PM
But a captured British officer told the Germans that their misfortunes were caused by the transmission of Metox, which were detected by Coastal Command aircraft. After verifying that this was technically possible, the Germans believed the story. This delayed the introduction of Naxos by some months, during which the U-boats suffered heavy losses.


That's what that says, right?

How ironic... also, is this modelled in the game?

Frederf221
04-24-2005, 03:09 PM
Why the devil would radar detectors need to be anything but passive?

quillan
04-24-2005, 03:45 PM
Remember, this is back in the days when radio sets used crystals and vacuum tubes, and you had to ground them to a pipe. Transistors hadn't been invented yet, so any radio gave off small emissions.

Dominicrigg
04-24-2005, 03:45 PM
#Quote from iron coffins no? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

That was one clever pilot, the one thing which was saving germans from aircraft "Metox" and he blagged them that he could pick it up.

They captured a downed british pilot, and quized him as to how he could find german boats so easily. He told them the metox was like a beacon, and they homed into that signal (the truth was radar of course and enigma intercepts). lolz http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

They told all uboats to switch of the naxos until further notice. Doh!!

Cragger
04-24-2005, 03:49 PM
If I remember the Germans did a investigation after the capture of the British pilot in which a aircraft with the proper equipment was able to detect emissions from the Naxos for several kilometers, so it wasn't incorrect information. But in reality it was radar that the aircraft where using to find the sub. Just two coincidences at the right moment that lead to the consequence of the Naxos being turned off.

Dominicrigg
04-24-2005, 03:56 PM
It was incorrect info because he lied lol. They couldnt detect naxos. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

xscreamist1
04-24-2005, 05:13 PM
The germans had a radar detector called metox but it didnt work very well. What happened was a captured british office told the germans that he could detect Metox emissions and when the germans looked into it they found that the Metox radar detector did produce a low level emission. So they delayed the introduction of NAXOS a better type of radar detector for fear that it could be detected by the British...at the same time the British introduced a new ASV radar, that if the NAXOS was deployed it would have detected it. So the british were able to surprise uboat captains by using the new ASV radar, and the germans suffered alot of uboat losses because they couldn't detect the new radar. The germans didnt start deploying the Naxos til May 1943 but the British responded with a new radar which nexos couldnt detect..by the time a radar detector that worked well was completed the war was pretty much over. So to answer your question...no there was not a reliable radar detector during WW2.

Guidon666
04-24-2005, 06:17 PM
A bit off topic, but modern day radar detectors can be detected too. (Car Radar detectors). Main reason many came out with vg-2 stealth capability a while ago (Which temporary lowered the detection range of the detector/shut it off)

I would go into the details of how it works, but I dont know. but here is a clipping off another website.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>VG-2 Interceptor
The VG-2 Interceptor radar detector detector (introduced in the 1980s) measures microwave signals in the band 11.4 - 11.6 GHz and is suppose to have detection ranges from 1/4 mile to 2 miles depending on the strength of radar detector LO leakage. Because the VG-2 has only one IF (one frequency conversion), the device is more susceptible to false alarms than a double frequency conversion receiver. Some radar detectors are capable of detecting the VG-2 LO leakage (a radar detector detects the radar detector detector). <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

WhiteKnight77
04-24-2005, 06:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by quillan:
Remember, this is back in the days when radio sets used crystals and vacuum tubes, and you had to ground them to a pipe. Transistors hadn't been invented yet, so any radio gave off small emissions. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't know about during the war, but nowadays, radar detectors can be found even though they are transistorized. Even though they are passive instruments, they do give off radar emissions. Canada, a place well know for it's laws against radar detectors, has radar detector detectors. Cops will rip out all and any they come across and smash them on the side of the road while you watch. Once smashed, they send you on your way, minus your detector.

DerKomet
04-24-2005, 06:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>(a radar detector detects the radar detector detector). <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Confused here... how can a radar detector detect a radar detector detector if the detector itself can't detect a radar detector detector detector would a chuck chuck wood?...

lowdown762n2003
04-24-2005, 07:28 PM
Wonder if this subjects is brought to you by the pople who wrap there cars in alluminum foil. lol. Joking so don't jump on your soap box to fast.