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EFileTahi
01-26-2005, 03:28 AM
I mean, in real life, in overall, how many depth charges were needed to sink a sub?

How many hits from a deck gun to sink a sub?
Could someone realy stats a specific number of hits from a specific artillery caliber?

Bullets... Was it possible to sink / inflict serious damage on sub by small caliber weapons? Like airplane machine guns? .30 .40 or .50 caliber?

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Dominicrigg
01-26-2005, 03:29 AM
4.6 depth charges.
13.6 hits from a deck gun
200 .50 cal bullets

Hope that helps!

EFileTahi
01-26-2005, 05:33 AM
200 bullets of an .50 caliber?

I mean, how many rounds can you fire in a minute with a .50? 120? So, a sub could be destroyed in 2 minutes?

...wow...

SailorSteve
01-26-2005, 02:50 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by EFileTahi:
200 bullets of an .50 caliber?

I mean, how many rounds can you fire in a minute with a .50? 120? So, a sub could be destroyed in 2 minutes?

...wow... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Actually, the .50 caliber M2's rate of fire was 750 rounds per minute.

And a destroyer might drop 100 depth charges and not sink the sub, but it only takes one, if it's close enough.

Likewise, one hit from a 3", 4" or 5" deck gun might not sink a sub, but one 3" hole in the pressure will make it no longer a sub, just toast.

There is no such thing as a precise number of hits to sink a submarine (or any ship), just as there is no precise number of hits to shoot down an airplane-just probabilities.

HeibgesU999
01-26-2005, 05:19 PM
As a uboat, once the pressure hull is breached you might as well be sunk. Unless you are very lucky you will have no way to escape as the wolves close in on you from all size.

I would think a 50 cal could turn a pressure hull into swiss cheese pretty quickly. But I have a great fondness for the Ma Deuce, so I'm pretty biased.

finchOU
01-26-2005, 09:07 PM
Dec. 7 1941, Prior to the attack on Pearl Harbor, Japanesse Midget subs attempted to enter the harbor.....a US destroyer saw one of the subs and engaged it. With one luck shell from a 5 incher (I think) punchured a hole in the conning tower sinkng the sub....

EFileTahi
01-27-2005, 10:06 AM
Ok, thanks for the posts... realy interesting http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

macker33
01-28-2005, 08:59 AM
Wether its true or not there is a story came out of WWII where tank ace wittman and another tank ace tried to sink a sub with their tigers,
The sub dived before they could land any hits.

An 88 definately would be effective against a sub.

Dominicrigg
01-28-2005, 09:25 AM
The gun on witmans tank is the same as the one you will have on your sub. It was a wicked gun design they used in lots of situations from static batteries to anti aircraft guns (the anti aircraft ones could be turned to attack incoming troops and tanks also!)

Messervy
01-28-2005, 09:44 AM
Rumors...... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif
There was an encounter during Barbarossa in Crimea involving a Russian sub and a german self propelled gun Stug lV.
At that time there were no 88mm guns mounted on tanks, let alone Tigers.

HeibgesU999
01-28-2005, 04:13 PM
The Naval 8.8cm Gun on the Type VII, was not the same gun as the famous 88mm.

Paul_K
01-28-2005, 04:27 PM
Heibges is right of course, the naval 8.8 cm gun wasn't same weapon as the well known 88mm anti-tank / anti-aircraft gun.

Yarrick_
01-29-2005, 08:21 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Yarrick_:
Yes, he's right, but how about having mounted it in subs? What a difference in AA weapon's load!
And also you could use it to sunk ships...
I personally think that to use the deck gun against "their ships" is only usefull with the 105mm of the IX type. The increase in power will make the difference, but of course I'm no seaman of WWII. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Messervy
01-29-2005, 08:35 AM
The AA Flak (flug abwehr cannone) was too powerfull to be used on a sub. Even though it had a tremendes recoil to eliminate stress on the mounting, it was just too cumbersome.