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koivis
11-09-2005, 06:29 AM
This is similar case to the Yak-9UT, because BK also has too low fire rate. In Ju 87G you can empty your magazines in just under 10 seconds (if someone has more precise results, please inform) which is about 80 rpm. However, 12 rounds should take only 4,5 seconds at fire rate of 160 rpm. Here, http://free-st.htnet.hr/dvd/Weapons.html in cockpit reference/info site it's 160 as it should be, but in game it feels too slow. Especially in G-2 with lots of ammo the correct rate would be fine.

koivis
11-09-2005, 06:29 AM
This is similar case to the Yak-9UT, because BK also has too low fire rate. In Ju 87G you can empty your magazines in just under 10 seconds (if someone has more precise results, please inform) which is about 80 rpm. However, 12 rounds should take only 4,5 seconds at fire rate of 160 rpm. Here, http://free-st.htnet.hr/dvd/Weapons.html in cockpit reference/info site it's 160 as it should be, but in game it feels too slow. Especially in G-2 with lots of ammo the correct rate would be fine.

Waldo.Pepper
11-09-2005, 09:19 AM
This MAY help.

It is a little piece of video of a G model Ju-87 attacking two JS tanks.

Several things are of interest.

You can calculate the rof file by timing the gap between shots. (It may not be max rof) but it sure implies practical rof.

http://rapidshare.de/files/7398879/JU-87_vs_Js-2.mpeg.html

Hope you find this useful and interesting.

BBB_Hyperion
11-09-2005, 11:18 AM
Camera Footage of this time is normaly not in real time but faster or slower so not really relevant for rof information.

FritzGryphon
11-09-2005, 08:33 PM
The end of the clip, with the soliders, appears to be real-time. The quality and color of the film suggests it was shot with the same camera as the stuka part.

Even if not, the gap between shots is clearly 3 plane lengths or so (about 35m). Could assume speed is 100-150m/s, since it couldn't be much higher or lower. Though you can't get it exactly, the RoF is definitely more than 80rpm. At least 2 shots per second.

polak5
11-10-2005, 12:26 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
This MAY help.

It is a little piece of video of a G model Ju-87 attacking two JS tanks.

Several things are of interest.

You can calculate the rof file by timing the gap between shots. (It may not be max rof) but it sure implies practical rof.

http://rapidshare.de/files/7398879/JU-87_vs_Js-2.mpeg.html

Hope you find this useful and interesting. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

kol vid http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Vike
11-10-2005, 08:53 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
This MAY help.

http://rapidshare.de/files/7398879/JU-87_vs_Js-2.mpeg.html

Hope you find this useful and interesting. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Impressive!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif
I didn't have "the luck" to see such Ju87's game footage before... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

@+

koivis
11-10-2005, 12:31 PM
That video only makes me more sure about that there's a bug...

Choctaw111
11-10-2005, 12:55 PM
How do you get to the movie? I can only get to the rapidshare website and cannot do anything else. The movie does not seem to be there. Someone please tell me how to get this movie...

ZG77_Nagual
11-10-2005, 01:21 PM
scroll down to the bottom and choose Free - it'll bring up the file name after 10 seconds or so and you can click on it - you may have to scroll down again to see it.

FliegerAas
11-10-2005, 03:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Choctaw111:
How do you get to the movie? I can only get to the rapidshare website and cannot do anything else. The movie does not seem to be there. Someone please tell me how to get this movie... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Step 1: Scrool down and click "FREE"
http://www.negativeactiongroup.at/portal/e107_plugins/coppermine_menu/albums/userpics/10075/aa1.JPG

Step 2Wait: Waiting time is displayed in seconds
http://www.negativeactiongroup.at/portal/e107_plugins/coppermine_menu/albums/userpics/10075/aa2.JPG
Step 3: Download
http://www.negativeactiongroup.at/portal/e107_plugins/coppermine_menu/albums/userpics/10075/aa3.JPG

BBB_Hyperion
11-10-2005, 07:45 PM
Uploaded some guncam footage Ju87G

http://rapidshare.de/files/7464752/Ju87G.avi.html

polak5
11-12-2005, 01:28 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BBB_Hyperion:
Uploaded some guncam footage Ju87G

http://rapidshare.de/files/7464752/Ju87G.avi.html </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

nice, truly snipers of the skies http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Willey
11-14-2005, 11:08 AM
AFAIK that gun was semi-auto, which means it fired as quickly as the pilot pulled the trigger another time.

Waldo.Pepper
11-16-2005, 03:32 PM
In the Ju87G, the installation of the BK required removal of the dive brakes, and the adding of three hard points under the wing to mount the 273kg weapon. The small hole (5), which looks like a gun camera window, was actually the air intake for the gasoline-powered heater used to keep the gun ready-for-aclion. The Flak 18 cannon (designed as a ground-based antiaircraft weapon, but also used in the anti-tank role) could be set to fire semi-auto or full-automatic, with a rate of fire of 140 rounds per minute, and a superb muzzle velocity of 860 m/sec. The gun held just 12 rounds in two 6-shell clips when mounted on the Stuka. Spent shells were ejected, but the empty clips were stored to prevent possible damage to the plane on ejection.


From Aero Detail 11 Junkers Ju87D/G Stuka page 64.

Flakwalker
11-18-2005, 11:49 AM
What dvd codec use the last video?

I tried to do an attack on an IS-2 with the G-1, the best tactic was to dive on a 40 angle at 700 meters on the back of it and shot under 400 meters, I just got a single double hit at back of the turret and was enough for it.

The BF-110 G-2 is not the same because the gun is filled with HE shells, not AP.