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owlwatcher
03-08-2004, 02:22 PM
Been thinking!?!? on the use of the V-1.
I know how and why of the german use.
Why were the V-1 not provided with a fighter escort.
Does any one have data on how many were shot down by Flak and by fighters.
Just a thought.

owlwatcher
03-08-2004, 02:22 PM
Been thinking!?!? on the use of the V-1.
I know how and why of the german use.
Why were the V-1 not provided with a fighter escort.
Does any one have data on how many were shot down by Flak and by fighters.
Just a thought.

zugfuhrer
03-08-2004, 02:44 PM
The V1 offensive in june/juli 1944 forced the anglo/americans to reinforce the fightercommand to protect london aginst the V1. In the outher ring there where fighters, in the middle there where computercontrolled radarguided heavy aa-batteries with radarfused AA-shells. The inner ring around London got smallcalibre aaa and barrage ballons.
The shoot down aprox 60% of the V1 at good days.
This reinforcement thinned the fighters over Normandy but G√¬∂rings guys where already beaten by that time. I think that it was 10-1 in fighers over Normandy.

x6BL_Brando
03-08-2004, 03:02 PM
Here's a good link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V1_Flying_Bomb

I think the vehicle's spec shows why it was never escorted. Travelling at a constant speed of nearly 410 m.p.h it would have been impossible to guard the rocket. In fact it would have meant the escorting a/c would have to fly straight & level to keep up and keep the thing in sight, and everyone knows that flying straight & level in a combat zone is not the key to a happy return to base! Besides that, radar would have detected both blips (and/or multiples of) and the appropriate response would have been scrambled by that stage of the war. And 30,000 were actually launched - which would have put the Luftwaffe under an impossible strain, escort-wise.

No...the V1 was a terror weapon, intended both to intimidate the civilian population (the same old story) and relieve the pressure on the Luftwaffe. A large number of my father's family were killed by one which landed in Fulham and obliterated two streets. Which saved some sod from getting his Heinkel shot down... Not a very honourable weapon when you come to think of it...the Cruise missile of its day.

owlwatcher
03-08-2004, 03:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by x6BL_Brando:
Here's a good link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V1_Flying_Bomb

I think the vehicle's spec shows why it was never escorted. Travelling at a constant speed of nearly 410 m.p.h it would have been impossible to guard the rocket. In fact it would have meant the escorting a/c would have to fly straight & level to keep up and keep the thing in sight, and everyone knows that flying straight & level in a combat zone is not the key to a happy return to base! Besides that, radar would have detected both blips (and/or multiples of) and the appropriate response would have been scrambled by that stage of the war. And 30,000 were actually launched - which would have put the Luftwaffe under an impossible strain, escort-wise.

No...the V1 was a terror weapon, intended both to intimidate the civilian population (the same old story) and relieve the pressure on the Luftwaffe. A large number of my father's family were killed by one which landed in Fulham and obliterated two streets. Which saved some sod from getting his Heinkel shot down... Not a very honourable weapon when you come to think of it...the Cruise missile of its day.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The escorting fighter would only have to disrupt the intercepting fighters so they would not have a easy time to line up the intercept of the V-1s.
Also the escorts would only have to guard a box area where the V-1 were to travel not a close escort like P-51 & B-17 stlye.
The escorts would be free to escort V-1 flying at lowered alitudes where the LW planes might have the edge. The allied planes would have to choose whether to attack the V-1s or dog fight.
Seems this would give the LW alittle edge on the battle.
Just thinking!?!?

owlwatcher
03-08-2004, 03:37 PM
OH thanks for the links

Zyzbot
03-08-2004, 03:43 PM
Info about V-1 use:


From 13th June 1944 to the 29th March 1945, this list gives the approximate number of V1 (Flying Bombs) launched against England and their fate.

Hits in the area of London 3,876
Hits in the city of London (17)
Total hits in all other Counties 3,397

Shot down by fighters 1,772
Shot down by AA Guns 1,460
Brought down by balloons 231

Types of aircraft and number of V1's shot down
Hawker Tempest V 638
Mosquitoes 428
Spitfire X1V's 303
Mustangs 232
Typhoons/Spitfire V, 1X & X11 158
Meteors 13

Total V1's exploded on land 7,290
Total V1's destroyed in the air 3,463
Total V1's launched against England, not including the V1's that landed short of their targets or fell into the sea.
10,753

Zyzbot
03-08-2004, 03:46 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by x6BL_Brando:
Here's a good link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V1_Flying_Bomb

I think the vehicle's spec shows why it was never escorted. Travelling at a constant speed of nearly 410 m.p.h it would have been impossible to guard the rocket.

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Another factor would be that not all V-1's travelled at the same speed. They were supposed to but they didn't for various reasons. Being unguided they might not have kept formation very well either so an escort would be more difficult.