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b2spirita
08-06-2008, 04:39 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Atomic_cloud_over_Hiroshima.jpg/509px-Atomic_cloud_over_Hiroshima.jpg


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/Hiroshima_Damage_Map.gif/629px-Hiroshima_Damage_Map.gif


Somwhere between 100,000 and 200,000 people died.

No arguements, no discusion. Just remembrance.

b2spirita
08-06-2008, 04:39 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Atomic_cloud_over_Hiroshima.jpg/509px-Atomic_cloud_over_Hiroshima.jpg


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/Hiroshima_Damage_Map.gif/629px-Hiroshima_Damage_Map.gif


Somwhere between 100,000 and 200,000 people died.

No arguements, no discusion. Just remembrance.

Bewolf
08-06-2008, 07:27 AM
RIP to all the victims of political endevours, no matter the side.

joeap
08-06-2008, 07:39 AM
I pray that they and those who suffered the 9th of August will be the last.

p1ngu666
08-06-2008, 07:54 AM
RIP http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

BOA_Allmenroder
08-06-2008, 08:09 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">

War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want.

William T. Sherman

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

b2spirita
08-06-2008, 08:14 AM
thats not what this thread is for BOA.......

Bewolf
08-06-2008, 08:26 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BOA_Allmenroder:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">

War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want.

William T. Sherman

</div></BLOCKQUOTE> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

In the spirit of this thread I won't further reply to one of the alltime lows of wartime quotes.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

"It is well that war is so terrible " we should grow too fond of it!"

Robert E. Lee

BOA_Allmenroder
08-06-2008, 08:52 AM
I'm sorry, I thought this thread was to remind all about the consequences of choosing to go to war and the victims of such choices?

And the terrible cost in lives and unforseen circumstances when a government chooses to go to war?

And the terrible retribution that can result from such choices. As such, I thought that quote accurately sums up the nature and consequences of making such a choice and amplifies, in words, the meaning of the original posted picture.

To me, the lesson of that picture is don't engage in war unless you are prepared to sow and reap its terrible consequences.

Bewolf
08-06-2008, 08:56 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BOA_Allmenroder:
I'm sorry, I thought this thread was to remind all about the consequences of choosing to go to war and the victims of such choices?

And the terrible cost in lives and unforseen circumstances when a government chooses to go to war?

And the terrible retribution that can result from such choices. As such, I thought that quote accurately sums up the nature and consequences of making such a choice and amplifies, in words, the meaning of the original posted picture.

To me, the lesson of that picture is don't engage in war unless you are prepared to sow and reap its terrible consequences. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That is an interesting interpretation. To me that lesson is not to got to war unless you are prepared, but not to go to war in the first place.
And that it does not matter who is responsible, the victims always are the common people. This is true from the very beginning of war up till now what we can see in Afghanistan. Collateral damage it's conviniently called nowadays.

SlickStick
08-06-2008, 09:20 AM
R.I.P.

Whenever this topic comes up, I always remember that America's WWII Ace of Aces, Richard Bong, also passed on this exact day, while test piloting a P-80A.

BrotherVoodoo
08-06-2008, 09:39 AM
R.I.P.

FlixFlix
08-06-2008, 11:56 AM
2 years ago a thread like this would have been locked.
2 years ago (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/7891001085?r=7891001085#7891001085)
Good to see admins loosening up.

R.I.P. !

GatorSub1942
08-06-2008, 06:03 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by b2spirita:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Atomic_cloud_over_Hiroshima.jpg/509px-Atomic_cloud_over_Hiroshima.jpg


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/Hiroshima_Damage_Map.gif/629px-Hiroshima_Damage_Map.gif


Somwhere between 100,000 and 200,000 people died.

No arguements, no discusion. Just remembrance. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That was the day we opened Pandora's Box and we might yet live to regret it...

LEXX_Luthor
08-06-2008, 06:55 PM
Some good links to learn more...


The Nuclear Weapon Archive ~&gt; http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/
Many Hiroshima accounts from the ground linked to at the very bottom of the webpage.


Trinity Atomic Web Site ~&gt; http://www.cddc.vt.edu/host/atomic/nukeffct/index.html
Much stuff from Sam Glasstone's book The Effects of Nuclear Weapons.


Atomic Forum ~&gt; http://www.atomicforum.org/
Discussion forum closed, but interesting data and film of all nation nuck testing.


The Glasstone blog ~&gt; http://glasstone.blogspot.com/
Fascinating and often contrarian presentation of tested and theoretical modelling. Includes much high altitude testing film and discussion. Slow loading, but long page with older poasts linked at the bottom.


United States Atomic Veterans (stories) ~&gt; http://www.aracnet.com/~pdxavets/news.htm (http://www.aracnet.com/%7Epdxavets/news.htm)
Scary stuff. Each 50 Years Ago link to each test has dozens of stories by people who were there.


I seem to have lost a Russian article on Soviet nuck testing, but it gave a very scary story.