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tracker_72
11-09-2004, 03:05 PM
Now that the Dutch Airforce is officially included in the IL2 series (http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif) I thought it would be handy to have an overview of what the planes the Dutch actually flew in during WWII...

Overview Dutch foreign squadrons and their equipment

-=Coastal Command (RAF)=-
320 (Dutch) Squadron
Fokker T.VIII W
Avro Anson Mk I
Lockheed Hudson Mk I
Lockheed Hudson Mk II
Lockheed Hudson Mk III
Lockheed Hudson Mk V
Lockhed Hudson VI
North American Mitchell Mk II
North American Mitchell Mk III

321 (Dutch) Squadron
Avro Anson Mk I
Consolidated Catalina Mk II
Consolidated Catalina Mk III
Consolidated Liberator GR. VI
Consolidated Catalina Mk Va


-=Fighter Command (RAF)=-
322 (Dutch) Squadron
Spitfire Mk Vb
Spitfire Mk XIVc
Spitfire LF IXb
Spitfire LF XVIe


-=Dutch Communication Flight=-
De Havilland Dominie DH-89B
Percival Proctor
Lockheed 12 A
Douglas Dakota C-47A
Douglas DC-2 ex-KLM
Douglas DC-3 ex-KLM

No. 6 (Dutch) Auster Squadron
Auster Mk III


-=Royal Navy's Fleet Air Arm (FAA)=-
860 (Dutch) Squadron:
Fairey Swordfish Mk I
Fairey Swordfish Mk II
Fairey Barracuda Mk II/III


-=Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF)=-
18 (NEI) Squadron
Douglas Havoc A-20 C
North American B-25 C Mitchell
Douglas Boston DB-7B
North American B-25 J Mitchell

120 (NEI) Squadron
Curtiss P-40 N Warhawk

1 NEI Transport Squadron
American B-25 Mitchells (stripped)
Lockheed Lodestars
Lockheed 12A
Douglas C-47 Dakota's

-=Dutch Controlled=-
Royal Netherlands Military Flying School (RNMFS)
Fairchild PT-19A
Vultee BT-13A
North American AT-6 Harvard
Beech AT-11 Kansan
Lockheed 12

source www.go2war2.nl (http://www.go2war2.nl[/I])


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oFZo
11-09-2004, 03:13 PM
What are you trying to say?

tracker_72
11-09-2004, 03:22 PM
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What are you trying to say?

-oFZo
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Well I was having a difficult time deciding what to fly in PF and playing along nationalistic lines is one way to choose your ride.... According to this list a really should play the B25J campaign (and nothing else http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif )

Another conclusion could be that it would be impossible to ask maddox to make a final planeset (see thread what should maddox make next -> http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=26310365&m=1831044932) because there are so many exotic planes that saw action during wwII. I mean of the list above only two or three are flyable and 1 or 2 more are only available as AI...

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clint-ruin
11-09-2004, 03:22 PM
The NEIF units have some of the best markings going too.

oFZo
11-09-2004, 03:25 PM
That's interesting, the first campaign I started was the B-25. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

tracker_72
11-09-2004, 03:28 PM
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That's interesting, the first campaign I started was the B-25.

-oFZo
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This planelist must be stored somewhere in deep in all Dutch braines cause I gravited towards the B25 aswell as soon as PF came out....

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tracker_72
11-09-2004, 03:34 PM
I even made my 1st ever screenshot-art-thing with a b25...

http://img123.exs.cx/img123/1954/b25crash.jpg


about the durch markings

I found that a dutch pacific b25 squardon didn't use the orange triangle but the used the dutch flag instead....

http://img69.exs.cx/img69/3291/p920743.jpg
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GerritJ9
11-09-2004, 03:50 PM
To this list should be added:
MLD- Dornier Do24K (until fall of Java)
PBY
Liberator
Various Fokker floatplanes (T.IVa, C.XIW, C.XIVW) until fall of Java.

ML-KNIL- Brewster B339C and D
Curtiss-Wright CW21B
Curtiss Hawk 75A-7
Hawker Hurricane IIB
Glenn Martin B-10 (139 and 166)
all above until fall of Java.

GerritJ9
11-09-2004, 03:53 PM
The Dutch flag replaced the orange triangle in February 1942 and was used by all dutch aircraft in the Pacific theatre until the end of the war. Post-war, the pre-war national marking, still in use today, was reinstated.

tracker_72
11-10-2004, 03:57 AM
why did they replace it? Prehaps it could be mistaken for a japanese rising sun?

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gombal40
11-10-2004, 05:47 AM
let me put it this way
1 find a df
2 put on dutch marking
3 you will get shot by both sides.

GerritJ9
11-10-2004, 01:55 PM
Pre-WW2, the Dutch used a circle divided into three equal segments coloured red, white and blue, with an orange dot in the centre. In late 1939, when Holland was still neutral, a Dutch aircraft was shot down by a German aircraft, the crew of which mistook the Dutch markings for British or French. As a result, several different markings were considered until the orange triangle with a black border was selected. This was also applied to the aircraft of the KNIL and MLD in the NEI, although there were no hostilities in that area at that time.
In late February 1942, the national marking was ordered to be changed to the national flag marking, effective from March 1st. Reason was to avoid any possibility of confusing the national marking with the Japanese hinomaru. Clearly, the pre-war marking with its red segment was out of the question, let alone the marking used in WW1 (when Holland was neutral) of an orange circle. The Dutch flag marking was rectangular and of such a different shape to the hinomaru that it was considered acceptable- the only case of an Allied national marking in the Pacific retaining red until the end of the war.