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MyloVIIc41
01-18-2008, 02:45 PM
Good day everyone.

I have taken a 15 month break from playing any SHIII in order to scratch build a 1:25 scale Type VIIc/41 U-Boat. I am able to make copies from my prototype molds if anyone is interested in building this beast. At this point, I'm seeing if there is any interest before I fire up my production line. Cost $750 range. I have plans on making an r/c version of this boat.

Hope you enjoy the pics. The first one has the ever popular 1:72 Revell Type VIIc "Wolfpack" hull in it to give an idea of scale. She's big....real big (8' 9" long).

Mylo

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o153/Mylo42/VIIc41d.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o153/Mylo42/VIIc41c.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o153/Mylo42/VIIc41a.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o153/Mylo42/VIIc41b.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o153/Mylo42/VIIc41g.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o153/Mylo42/VIIc41i.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o153/Mylo42/94d.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o153/Mylo42/94e.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o153/Mylo42/94c.jpg

MyloVIIc41
01-18-2008, 02:45 PM
Good day everyone.

I have taken a 15 month break from playing any SHIII in order to scratch build a 1:25 scale Type VIIc/41 U-Boat. I am able to make copies from my prototype molds if anyone is interested in building this beast. At this point, I'm seeing if there is any interest before I fire up my production line. Cost $750 range. I have plans on making an r/c version of this boat.

Hope you enjoy the pics. The first one has the ever popular 1:72 Revell Type VIIc "Wolfpack" hull in it to give an idea of scale. She's big....real big (8' 9" long).

Mylo

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o153/Mylo42/VIIc41d.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o153/Mylo42/VIIc41c.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o153/Mylo42/VIIc41a.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o153/Mylo42/VIIc41b.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o153/Mylo42/VIIc41g.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o153/Mylo42/VIIc41i.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o153/Mylo42/94d.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o153/Mylo42/94e.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o153/Mylo42/94c.jpg

klcarroll
01-18-2008, 02:51 PM
@MyloVIIc41;

That's a work of art that makes the Mona Lisa look like a quick charcoal sketch!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

klcarroll

GoldenEagle8
01-18-2008, 03:07 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
Now THAT is a model!!

Very Nice Work!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Realjambo
01-18-2008, 03:08 PM
That is a stunning piece of work Mylo! Thanks for sharing your photo's http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif I have removed your email address from your post - it's not a good idea to publicly post email addresses in the forum. Other forum members can contact you via the private Message system here - it's much safer.

If anyone wants to contact Mylo who isn't familiar with using the PM system just shout and we'll help you http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Goose_Green
01-18-2008, 03:21 PM
Awesome model http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

The details and colours are amazing...
And the size is something else too http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif It would be quite a difficult model to put on display in the living room http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Please post some more pictures.

MyloVIIc41
01-18-2008, 04:15 PM
RealJambo, ...thanks I'm a better model maker than I am cyber security dude.

Goose, I've had a place picked out in my "guy's room" since I started this project. It does take up pretty much the whole wall though. Heck of a conversation piece. Real hard to miss. The normal response is, "What the hell is that !"

I think I've pretty much covered everything with the pics I posted, but if there is something in particular you are looking for......

This project was a labour of love. I was inspired to make it in large part from playing SHIII. I chose a Type VIIc/41 mainly because it was the boat that I could find the most detailed plan set on, not to mention LOTS of good reference photos from U-995 on display in Laboe Germany. I stepped WAY outside my model building comfort zone, but....pulled 'er off.

Mylo

Goose_Green
01-18-2008, 04:19 PM
The accomplishment is even greater due to the fact that is has been built without the use of a "kit".

What is the length of the model in feet/meters?

A fantastic model...you must be very proud of your handy work http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

VikingGrandad
01-18-2008, 05:20 PM
Excellent work MyloVIIc41! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

At first, I assumed it was a particularly well-finished commercial kit, but then I read you scratch-built it!! Incredible! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Can you tell us how you went about scratch-building such a detailed model?

If you're interested, I have hi-res PDF technical drawings for the following U-boat types:

Type VIIB
Type VIIC
Type VIID
Type XXI
Type XXIII
Type IXD2 (what a monster that would be in 1/25 scale!)

Let me know if you'd like me to send you any of these files.

bunkerratt
01-18-2008, 06:56 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif...wow

tuddley3
01-18-2008, 08:15 PM
OMG, my mouth is watering.

Dear Santa,
I know it has only been a month since your last visit, but I promise to be good this year. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gifSee, I know this guy named Mylo ... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

BTW, Welcome to Ubi Forums. I think everyone is so stunned by your craftsmanship, they forgot to welcome you to our happy little forum/family.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m65/tuddley3/Welcome%20To%20UBI/WelcomeAboardSign.jpg

MyloVIIc41
01-18-2008, 09:47 PM
I appreciate the welcome. I figure what better place to show a U-Boat model than to those who are into U-Boats and playing SHIII. I'm a U-Boat head, I think I've made that obvious by taking on this build.

If any of you are interested in seeing exactly how I built this thing, you can go to the Subcommittee Forum under "Builder Threads". In there, I have a completely documented 3 part series showing how this boat was made, right from ordering the plan set from Germany. The three parts include:

1:25 Type VIIc/41 Scratch Build
Mylo's Type VIIc/41 Continued.....
Mylo's Type VIIc/41 part III

There are many, many pages as well as several hundred photos.

In the name of spreading U-Boat joy, may you find this whole thing of some interest.

http://s181686668.onlinehome.us/phpBB2/messageboards.php5

Mylo

Liddabit
01-19-2008, 12:16 AM
Your attention to detail and skilled hands put the lotion in the basket sir!

Kaiser_W
01-19-2008, 10:20 AM
I am always amazed at the scratchbuilding talent in the model world. I wouldn't even know where to begin. I have scratchbuilt some small stuff, but usually just with parts from other stuff.

VikingGrandad
01-19-2008, 10:26 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MyloVIIc41:
In the name of spreading U-Boat joy, may you find this whole thing of some interest.

http://s181686668.onlinehome.us/phpBB2/messageboards.php5
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm staggered by the amount of work you put into it! All those different conning tower models too. Are you going to approach any museums to see if they would like to buy one of your models for display?

jimbuna
01-19-2008, 12:36 PM
Very nice Sir http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

J5_Lehmann
01-19-2008, 12:36 PM
HOLY GREYWOLVES BATMAN!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

Celeon999
01-19-2008, 01:04 PM
Thats one big model http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif


Very cool http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

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Karl_Donitz_Jr
01-19-2008, 01:19 PM
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As you can tell, I like it.

I'll take 2.

No seriously if you start a production line - I will (In a few months - current cash flow issues). I want to make a radio-controlled one!

The other I know people who will take one, maybe more. If you start a line, I may know a shop what can/will sell them.

One thing though. I see she has two dual 20mm's and what I think is a single 37mmas AA armament.

Can I have a quad 37mm or 20mm instead of the single - the very aft AA gun. That is my only gripe lol

I want more firepower!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

I actually also make radio controlled models from the ground up. My current build is a German E-100 AA Tank (Twin 88's hehe) Early days though! But I always wanted a sub. I was going to get a Robbie XXI at 1:48 scale. This is better though!!! I ban build in firing torpedo tubes!

Heinrich505
01-19-2008, 01:57 PM
I am absolutely stunned. Your model is amazing. And HUGE. I'm with VikingGrandad, your submarine should be displayed in a freaking museum. It would be well received. Your skill and ability are to be highly regarded. Thanks so much for posting. I just sat and stared with admiration at your pictures.

I checked with the wife. I've got the perfect place to display it - in the front picture window of the house. The wife...well, how should I say this - she was not "supportive," heh heh. Hey, I can dream anyway, and if I ever win that darn lottery.....

That is truly an amazing piece of work. You have posted it in the right place. Right here.

Heinrich505

MyloVIIc41
01-19-2008, 03:19 PM
Gentlemen,

I truly appreciate all the compliments. Thank you. I'm really just a very determined / anally retentive, modeler with a passion for U-Boats.

This model was my first attempt at a scratch build anything. I have 100s of hours invested in researching "how to do it" alone, nevermind actually building it. It was a VERY steep learning curve. I give many MANY thanks to a bunch of guys at Subcommittee.com who gave me some guidance along the way, as well as research materials/photos. Great bunch over there if you are interested in model subs of any kind.

Karl, This VIIc/41 kit will come with the two twinned 20mm Flak on the upper garten, and the single 37mm Flak on the lower garten. This was the most common arrangement for the VIIc/41 boat and the reason why it is modeled as such. ....sorry, no quad 20, not on this one. Having said that, down the road I will entertain the idea of "optional towers" on these boats. I plan on building others, all in 1:25 scale, love 'em big, lots of room for r/c toys inside.

I really like these subs in 1:25 scale, as much of a handful as they are. I have plans to engineer operating periscopes and torpedos as optional modules for the r/c versions. ....should make for some good duck hunting.

I will be offering a completly assembled, painted, and r/c ready boat, take it out of the box and put it in the lake.....for those with really deep pockets, ...for the rich kid that has everything...except a 9' long r/c sub.

Given the amount of positive feedback I've had in only a few days, I will certainly be putting this boat into production. I expect by this summer, there will be a few of these subs patrolling in local ponds. Revenue generated will go towards future sub projects. These things cost a FORTUNE to scratch build, especially if molds are made for reproduction. Rubber mold material comes in at $225/gal. It took about 10 gal. to make just the molds for this sub, ....you do the math on what this thing costs. If your calculations come in close to $4000, you would be right.

I will be offering my prototype you see in the photos as a donation to the museum in Laboe Germany where the actual U-995 is on display. Should they accept it and include it as some sort of exhibit, I would be truly honoured, that would be payment enough.

Again, thanks for the response,

Mylo "U-Boat head guy and builder".

GoldenEagle8
01-19-2008, 04:48 PM
Wow! It would be astonishing to see an RC Version of this!!

But then I noticed something...
How do you get a 9' U-boat from your house, to the water!? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

It would be a heck of a lot of fun!!

But just getting it there would be a feat in itself!!

If I had the money, I would buy that kit in a heartbeat! (if I had a heartbeat left after seeing your increadable photos!)

Excellent Work! I would not be surprised if a museum would display that!!

Amazing Work!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

MyloVIIc41
01-19-2008, 08:53 PM
Eagle,

The boat fits in the box of my pick up. I have fabricated a stand that secures it for transport. Once at the lake, you just pick it up and put it in the water. It will weigh in at around 30lbs once fully outfitted with r/c guts, so....you don't need a crane, but it isn't for those who can't lift stuff. I am also entertaining the idea of building a trailer for it that will double as a drydock/storage unit....park it in the garage, kind of like a mini sea-doo trailer.

....none the less, I don't see any problems getting it in the water.

Mylo

Karl_Donitz_Jr
01-20-2008, 03:06 AM
Mylo - you say that you are going to make a ready to run R/C model. What about us that like building R/C models?

What about a straight kit version with no electrics? Just mounts? It will be cheaper lol!

Maverick_U2007
01-20-2008, 04:20 AM
When I was a kid I used to make the Plastic 'Airfix' kits that were available here in the UK and I was proud when I finished them and made sure the detailing was correct by numerous visits to the library....no such thing as the internet then.

I also dreamed of building something from scratch.......

Never, as long as the sun continues to rise and set would I have contemplated such a project that you have produced.

I am in awe and 'salute' you on such a work of art....and if the museum did not take it it would be a crying shame as there will be others, beyond this and other forums that would 'marvel' to see such a dedicated piece of work.

Congratulations

Maverick

MyloVIIc41
01-20-2008, 07:50 AM
Karl, I will have a kit version for those who would like to build this sub, but I will also offer a totally finished r/c sub for those who just want to play with a toy....and have the kind of money where it really doesn't matter. For sure, the kit will be MUCH cheaper.

Maverick, Most kind, thanks. I spent many, many hours at my computer researching how to scratch build before even so much as ordering the plans. It was all new to me, but like you, I always felt compelled to try a scratch build. When I got hooked on U-Boats, I knew that it was a U-Boat I wanted to build. The information on how to do it is out there. Hell, I did a "play by play" detailed log of how I built this very boat that guys are now using to try their own projects. You don't have to be an engineer (with a ton of fancy tools), or a Piccasso (sp ?...shows what I know about art), but you need a ton of determination and often times, some down right stubborness, oh, and a real passion for your subject matter.....being divorced helps too. If you "dream" of doing a scratch build, go check out my build thread (I posted a link earlier in this thread) and see if it looks like something you could do.

Mylo

MarcusW
01-20-2008, 11:51 AM
Impressive work!

Karl_Donitz_Jr
01-20-2008, 12:24 PM
I really need to finish off my 6' Monitor so I can get my 9' model of the H-44 built. That would be the KMS Bismarck's bigger half-sister for those who were wondering lol

I also saw a 8' IJN Yamato with my name on it hehe

Actually I want the 1:10 scale one that is in the Yamato Musium in Kure, Japan.

http://yamato.kure-city.jp/tenji/101yamato1.jpg

Seriously that don't do it justice (huge res here)
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/287173.jpg
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MyloVIIc41
01-20-2008, 04:02 PM
Karl, There are many talents among us gamers....aparently.


......you raise a certain point. Multipleprojectonthego-itis. Some guys are good at multitasking, working on lots of stuff at one time. Me....I get tunnel vision and extreme focus. I MUST finish one thing before I can move onto the next. Whether that be different models, or even a particular phase of building a scratch build, ...or doing the dishes before wiping off the counter. I have models that are new in the box, but I don't have any that are half started. It's just the way I prefer to work. It helps me see projects through to completion.

Mylo

GoldenEagle8
01-20-2008, 08:28 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MyloVIIc41:
Eagle,

The boat fits in the box of my pick up. I have fabricated a stand that secures it for transport. Once at the lake, you just pick it up and put it in the water. It will weigh in at around 30lbs once fully outfitted with r/c guts, so....you don't need a crane, but it isn't for those who can't lift stuff. I am also entertaining the idea of building a trailer for it that will double as a drydock/storage unit....park it in the garage, kind of like a mini sea-doo trailer.

....none the less, I don't see any problems getting it in the water.

Mylo </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Really?

only 30 pounds? Thats a lot lighter than it looks!


And it sounds like you have a really cool little set up for it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

I would like to see some pics of something like that in the water! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Excellent Work once again!

one other thing:
Will the RC version be able to dive? I ask because I have seen some that don't.

Great job. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

MyloVIIc41
01-20-2008, 10:33 PM
Eagle,

The model really isn't all that heavy. The hull is made from West System Epoxy/Fiberglass cloth and the parts are cast from a plastic resin, which itself is lightweight. The wintergarten railings as well as some other small parts are brass, which is the heaviest part of the tower. It's far more bulky than it is heavy.

Yes, the r/c version will be a static diving model, which is to say that it's bouyancy will be controlled via ballast tanks being flooded/purged, just like the real deal. .....and like the real deal, it'll sink all the way to the bottom and not come up if you let it get out of control on you. What the hell good is a sub that doesn't dive ?? ALARM !!!

Mylo

GoldenEagle8
01-20-2008, 11:17 PM
Very Cool! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

U301
01-21-2008, 01:24 PM
Excellent work!
You should contact museums they might be interested in having such good work.
That work is the best I have seen.
Good luck and Good Hunting.
KUrtz

joeap
01-21-2008, 01:55 PM
Amazing stuff mate, if I had the space I would pay you to build me one.

Kaleun1961
01-21-2008, 02:51 PM
Ouch! My jaw got hurt when it dropped to the floor. That thing is more beautiful than a Playboy centerfold! My only question is, "Do you have a similar love for panzers?" I'd love to see what you could do with a 1/25th rendition of a Tiger or a Panther.

Can you/do you model crew members to that scale? That beast of yours would truly come to life with crew members added to it.

U301
01-21-2008, 03:31 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif
KUrtz

MyloVIIc41
01-21-2008, 06:23 PM
"G" scale model railroad figures are 1:22 so, there is the possibility that there could be some that look like U-Boat crew, or could be made to look like U-Boat crew. That is something I have given thought to.

I will scratch build a Panzer some day, I like those too. Early Tiger for sure. Not a puny 1:25 scale one though, more like 1:4 scale. I like my models to have presence.

Mylo

Karl_Donitz_Jr
01-22-2008, 11:59 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I'd love to see what you could do with a 1/25th rendition of a Tiger or a Panther </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://www.pmbdt.co.uk/The%20Tank%20Page.htm

They are all 1:16 tanks Kaleun1961

My three are the JadgTiger, Porsche Turreted King Tiger & the Production King Tiger on the right (with machine gun)