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Lord_Rhah
08-05-2005, 05:54 AM
I was sitting on the bus today, and suddenly realised how much war related history there was in my local Area. I live in North-west London, Hillingdon borough, Which is home to both RAF Uxbridge (my home town) and RAF Northolt (5 mins away)
AFAIK, RAF Uxbridge was the HQ of Fighter command during the BoB, Nowadays its mainly just an administration centre i think. But it does have a lovely Spitfire mounted near the front gate. Everytime i drive past it on the way to work i cant take my eyes of it. Brings a tear to the eye! (sort of)

RAF Northolt was home to 303 Polish squadron and Sergeant Josef Frantisek. Nowadays its used for VIP flights and private jets http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif There is also the polish war memorial next to it, which is visible from the A40 as you drive past

Anyway, does anyone else live near any intersting wartime locations? any interesting facts to share about them?

Lord_Rhah
08-05-2005, 05:54 AM
I was sitting on the bus today, and suddenly realised how much war related history there was in my local Area. I live in North-west London, Hillingdon borough, Which is home to both RAF Uxbridge (my home town) and RAF Northolt (5 mins away)
AFAIK, RAF Uxbridge was the HQ of Fighter command during the BoB, Nowadays its mainly just an administration centre i think. But it does have a lovely Spitfire mounted near the front gate. Everytime i drive past it on the way to work i cant take my eyes of it. Brings a tear to the eye! (sort of)

RAF Northolt was home to 303 Polish squadron and Sergeant Josef Frantisek. Nowadays its used for VIP flights and private jets http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif There is also the polish war memorial next to it, which is visible from the A40 as you drive past

Anyway, does anyone else live near any intersting wartime locations? any interesting facts to share about them?

SeaNorris
08-05-2005, 05:59 AM
Well, you can find out about my city in the blitz:
http://www.diduknow.info/blitz/

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MEGILE
08-05-2005, 06:11 AM
Norris is a scouser http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

No bombs hit my City during WW2 I think.. but

On the 24th of September 1645, King Charles stood on the North-East tower Of Chester and watched his army defeated in the battle of Rowton Moor.

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Cavaliers got ownzed.

VV_Holdenb
08-05-2005, 06:25 AM
Hi,

I live in the village of Marsworth UK. Just down the road is the remains of Cheddington airbase used by "US Eighth Army Air Force" ~S.
Mainly B17E's.The squadrons were special duty , with their missions mainly night leaflet drops over Germany and occupied countries.

Cheddington started life as an RAF bomber training field. Through because of the nature
of the landscape there were soon a number of Wellington bomber crashes.

http://www.hemelhempsteadtoday.co.uk/mk4custompages/Cus...ge.aspx?PageID=43577 (http://www.hemelhempsteadtoday.co.uk/mk4custompages/CustomPage.aspx?PageID=43577)

Not a favourite airfield to operate from.
Was apparently called "the two hills", due to
two rather large obstructions that caused "some issues" with take off's and obsured landing approach. Also the airfield was close to the canal and the pilots were warned to stay clear of the grassy areas as they were very boggy." Will post some pics when I get a chance.

A book you may like, got a lot on Northholt and
cheddington, as well as others.
"Thames Valley airfields of second world war"
by Robin Brooks.

WWSensei
08-05-2005, 06:28 AM
I live in the Hampton Roads area of Virginia. Not much in way of WW2 battles but the number of Revolutionary, 1812, and Civil War battles and battlefields are almost too much to count. I live only about 6 miles from where Cornwallis surrendered to Washington.

From my bedroom window I can see where the first battle of ironclad ships took place...

BSS_Goat
08-05-2005, 07:13 AM
WWSensei I didnt know you were a Virginian.
I work in Suffolk Va.I live in a small town about 30 miles west,Courtland, where they tried and executed Nat Turner. (Interesting to see how many people on the board know of him)

vocatx
08-05-2005, 07:22 AM
There is a fair amount of WWII history in the area in which I live. 60 miles south of me is where Adm. Chester Nimitz grew up. The airport at the county seat was a fairly large training field. There was a PoW camp at the county seat for German PoWs. Earl Rudder (D-Day, Rudder's Rangers) snd his second in command, Frank Corder were from here. Lots of pilots, gunners, sailors, soldiers were from here.

FoolTrottel
08-05-2005, 07:26 AM
Railroad bridge in 1940 (Destroyed by the Dutch)
http://www.verhalenvanvroeger.nl/photos/fullsize/00cm00ca.jpg

Bridge in 1945, (Destroyed by the Germans)
http://www.dwk.nl/kast/data/937/Deventer_image009.jpg

Between the years 1940-1945, the Allies repeatedly tried to destroy them two bridges from the air . Well, they did not succeed ... they made a mess of the city in between them bridges though ...

Related fact: Sergeant James Reid (http://www.basher82.nl/Data/deventer/reid.htm)

Lord_Rhah
08-05-2005, 07:30 AM
the two previous posts dont actually state where abouts you live. obviously if you dont want people to know where you live, thats fair enough.

FoolTrottel
08-05-2005, 07:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Lord_Rhah:
the two previous posts dont actually state where abouts you live. obviously if you dont want people to know where you live, thats fair enough. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

NP, just click on the link, just view the properties of the pics ... and do visit http://www.deventer.nl, and especially if yer into books, visit the city next sunday, Aug 7th ...

Daiichidoku
08-05-2005, 08:04 AM
i live in toronto, ontario, canada, and ther eis actually a fair bit close to toronto, and in ontario....

couldnt get farther away from any combat here, of course, but....

toronto was home to manufacture of lancs, mossies, and hurricanes, at least for combat a.c.

toronto lakeshore was used as a base for "little norway"...ex pat norwejians were flight trained here

CFB trenton was a huge base for flight training CATP, and logistics hub for many a.c. ferrying to UK

"camp X", just outside of oshawa ontario was the allies intelligence training camp, most or all properly trained covert ops agents were trained here


canadas military has often been recognized as one of the finest in the world, as far as personnel goes...sadly, we have always been hampered by a lack of quality eq, or lead by brits

canada probably gave more effort than any other allied country during WWII, speaking proportionally, of course...hell, we even had our own beach to deal with on D Day...one dday beach fo ra country of then no more than 20 million, a fifth to a tenth of the population of many other allied nations

KRISTORF
08-05-2005, 08:08 AM
Unfortunataly I live in Milton Keynes, which, fortunataly did not exist during WWII.

Fortunataly, approx 1 mile from my home is Bletchley Park, home of the 'Code Breakers' who deciphered the Enigma machine so accurately depicted as captured by the Americans before they joined the war in that pig awefull film.

ForkTailedDevil
08-05-2005, 08:26 AM
I live in Salt Lake City, UT which probably seems really remote. Anyway about an hour west of me the military built a dummy version of a Japanese city to test incendiaries on to see what burned the best. Also about 1hr 30 minutes west of me is where the 3rd A-bomb was being held when Japan surrenderd.

Heliopause
08-05-2005, 08:45 AM
I live near Soesterberg in the Netherlands.
The airfield Soesterberg was not actively used by the Dutch in May 1940 but after that the germans did, mainly for their bombers.
Somewhere in 1944 it was bombed pretty often by the allies and no longer in use.
After the war it was used for light transport aircraft of the Dutch airforce as well as US fighter planes. Starting to arrive in 1954 with F-86 Sabres and ending in 1994 while flying F-15's. (32TFS)
Today it's in use by 2 transport helicoptersqn's. of the Dutch airforce....

PBNA-Boosher
08-05-2005, 08:56 AM
The only history my town has is the claim that in WW2, 35-40 of our citizens sacrificed themselves for the good of the allied cause. Not really much else to be said for my town.

jarink
08-05-2005, 09:00 AM
Virtually nothing of military historical interest has ever happened in central Illinois. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Well, we have the home offices af Caterpillar about 12 miles away in Peoria. They've made quite a bit in the way of construction equipment, engines and miscellaneous things for the military since before WWII, but that's about it.

For a short time about 15 years ago I lived in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Now that's a place to be if you're a Civil War buff!

Anyone live near the old 8th AF base at Great Ashfield? That's where my grandfather was based in '43 (later 'based' in Stalag Luft I near Barth, Germany).

FlatSpinMan
08-05-2005, 09:05 AM
I live in Kobe, Japan (but I'm actually a New Zealander). During the war there was a lot heavy industry here including steel factories and shipbuilding yards. In fact, they still are in operation. There is also a huge port.

I remember one of my older students telling me about his experiences as a schoolkid working in a factory nearby (Akashi City, if you know it or want to Google Earth it)producing Japanese military aircraft. Can't remember the name unfortunately but it was a twin engined one. I think that factory was Kawasaki as there is still a large plant in the area today that produces motorbikes, jet and ship engines.

Anyway, because of these industrial targets you can imagine the pounding that Kobe took during the war.

In fact, in an interesting example of the past coming back to haunt us,this coming Sunday (7 Aug)the major train line between Kobe and Akashi will be closed from 9am to 12:30pm while an unexploded bomb from WW2 is disposed of. It was unearthed during building construction.



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VonKlugermon
08-05-2005, 09:15 AM
My old hometown, (I haven't been there in a loooooong time): Dade City, Florida, was also home to a POW camp. German POW's worked on local farms/projects. The camp is now a park. Further south, Zephyrhills Airport was a P47 fighter base (Training). I used to go there to target practice in one of the old gun-synchronization bunkers.

Willy

trumper
08-05-2005, 09:28 AM
I live a few miles from Oakington in Cambridge and about 20 miles from Duxford [handy eh http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif]
http://www.raf.mod.uk/bombercommand/s102.html

Tooz_69GIAP
08-05-2005, 09:28 AM
If you are interested in the X-Craft (the midget subs that attacked Tirpitz), you may be interested to know that Rothesay, on the Isle of Bute in Scotland (where I grew up) is where the idea was thought up, and where it was developed, and where the crews were trained.

There is a new memorial dedicated to those who died during the X-Craft program on Bute. It was unveiled in June, I think.

http://www.bute-gateway.org/vday/

Jungmann
08-05-2005, 10:33 AM
L.A., my home town, was Action City during WWII. I remember (call me crazy) watching P-38's out of Burbank slow-timing their engines before AAF acceptance overhead when I was being pushed around in my stroller.

What I think is coolest--the little canyon I live in now near the beach was home to a lot of the work force that drove two miles south to Douglas Aircraft at Clover Field to build SBDs and A-20s.

Cheers,

UK_Rocket
08-05-2005, 10:39 AM
I'm from the Isle of Wight - plenty of WW2 history, but 'on topic' I would say BoB would be very well known here, from Ventnor Radar to the many battles in the skies over head and the bombing of Cowes on many occasions. Also a good referance is - Wight Air Wrecks (http://www.gdtp.freeserve.co.uk/)

Owlsphone
08-05-2005, 03:56 PM
Nothing but history here in Philadelphia.

vocatx
08-05-2005, 04:10 PM
Lord_Rhah, your right, I was in a hurry at lunch when I posted that. The county seat here is Brady, Texas.

There is a lot of history here, going back to Spanish colonial days. One of the first Spanish missions in North America was located not far from here, Robert E. Lee's last post in the Union army is near here as well.

Goodfellow AFB in San Angelo (about 90 miles) was a major training base for navigators and bombardiers. It is now used to train intelligence analysts, I believe, and they also have a very good fire fighting school there for civilian as well as military fire fighters.

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
08-05-2005, 04:52 PM
Living in Swindon Wiltshire we are knee deep in history but here is some related to aircraft

http://www.swindonweb.com/guid/heriplanes0.htm

turnipkiller
08-05-2005, 05:23 PM
In my hometown of Sarnia Ontario, the Polymer Corporation (later Polysar, now Bayer Rubber) was established to manufacture needed synthetic rubber. They supplied roughly 40,000 tons of it yearly.

414 Squadron, RCAF, was named after an old Grey Cup football team the "Sarnia Imperials". They flew Lysanders, Tomahawks, Mustangs and Spitfires during the war.

Just north of Sarnia, close to where I live now, an army training camp was established in 1941 named Camp Ipperwash. After the war it was used until a few years ago as a reservist training base (my father trained there in the 60's in artillery.)

About an hour north of Sarnia is Centralia, which was a training base under the BCATP. I was reading a book about the training plan, and some of the stories of flight paths were over towns all around this area. Kind of neat I thought.

Low_Flyer_MkII
08-05-2005, 06:24 PM
My house overlooks Portland Harbour, Dorset, very popular with the Luftwaffe during BoB. One of Paul Nash's paintings gives a vivid impression. A sailor named Jack Mantle won a posthumous V.C. for manning his ack-ack gun as Stukas sank his ship (H.M.S. Foylebank) during one raid on the harbour.

The U.S. 1st Infantry division was here for 11 months prior to Omaha Beach. Weymouth and Portland harbours were main embarkation points for the U.S. forces involved in the Normandy landings - the entire Force 'O' sheltered in Weymouth Bay due to bad weather on the night of 4/5th June, must have been quite a sight.

Looking the other way, I can see where there was an R.A.F. bombing range running alongside Chesil Beach - Barnes Wallis tested his bouncing bomb there. Not too far away is the site of Warmwell airfield, home to Hurri's, Spits, Whirlwinds(!), Typhoons and eventually P-38s of U.S. 9th AF.

Going back a little further, many street names in Weymouth have an Australian connection, in rememberance of the ANZAC camps that were here during WWI. There's a few of them left in a local cemetary due to a flu epedemic - poor sods, after all they must have gone through to get here.