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daFat1
04-29-2005, 01:33 PM
Hi, I know this will be probably too much, but how about a Korea add-on with all the early jets for FB/AEP/PF? I would even pay for this!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Is there anything like this on the market already?

daFat1
04-29-2005, 01:33 PM
Hi, I know this will be probably too much, but how about a Korea add-on with all the early jets for FB/AEP/PF? I would even pay for this!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Is there anything like this on the market already?

SeaNorris
04-30-2005, 10:33 AM
Yes CF$3 and the Korean War add-on, **** game, good addon

3.JG51_BigBear
04-30-2005, 11:06 AM
I doubt il2 will ever have a korean addon. The series seems to be ending quickly in favor of BOB. Even when BOB is released I doubt that there would be a korean war addon. The goal seems to be to do all the theatres of combat in WWII. There is a Russian only addon that seems to contemplate an America/Russia or a Japan/Russia conflict in 46 or 47 that may have some of the Korean equipment but there has been no real information on the release of those planes anywhere but in Russia.

RiesenSchnauzer
05-01-2005, 04:16 AM
If the licensing issue talked about on these boards is real then stocking an add on with US planes would be problematic. That is supposed to be the current reason this engine will never see an F4U-4 or a P-47N.

VW-IceFire
05-01-2005, 09:14 AM
May be resolved in a few years...

Someone did mention to Oleg the possibility of doing Korea and he was interested. Its another forgotten battle and the air combat is still largely WWII...just alot faster.

Kind of interesting to mix up the Yak-9P, IL-10, and Mig-15 with some F-51Ds and F-86s.

Badsight.
05-02-2005, 12:18 AM
& La-9s http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

& the Bearcat could be our what if , would it rock ? oooh yes it would

Copperhead310th
05-02-2005, 12:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RiesenSchnauzer:
If the licensing issue talked about on these boards is real then stocking an add on with US planes would be problematic. That is supposed to be the current reason this engine will never see an F4U-4 or a P-47N. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

yeah it'd true all right.
and i'm wondering if after that well ever see another Maddox sim with US aircraft in it again.

LEXX_Luthor
05-02-2005, 12:44 AM
You could sell Oleg's 1950-1970 sim, like Oleg's Spanish Civil WAR (or Oleg's 1919-1939 sim), this would represent All Nations and All Pilots, and would attract people all over the world. When Oleg makes something, he makes something BiGG. A Korea addon pac would work well, among other theaters. Or, the series could start in 1950 Korea and move forward.

We would see a New Era of flight simming, to see teh board Whining about losing internet dogfight Brownie Points in...

Hawker Hunter
Folland Gnat
Supermarine Swift
BAe Lightning
Dassault Mystere
Mirage III
Saab J~35
Fiat G.91
La~15
F~106
CF~101 (with Iriquois powered CF~105 "fantasy" plane http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)

Not to mention bombers like B~47 (like fighter), Canberra, IL~28, Tu~20 would be really cool to fly. B~58 and Mirage IV too. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

mm, a Fiat jet in children playground ~~&gt; http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/planes/q0138.shtml

avimimus
05-02-2005, 07:08 AM
With a couple of famous jets (2 or 3) we could make a Korean style campaign quite easily.

It would be ideal to have the later versions of the piston engined aircraft and to have new terrain. But it is not necessary at all, is it?

JG53Frankyboy
05-02-2005, 07:17 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Copperhead310th:
yeah it'd true all right.
and i'm wondering if after that well ever see another Maddox sim with US aircraft in it again. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

hopefully !
a 1942 adon fore BoB without low flying MustangMk.Is ore Boston Bombers - not nice to imagine http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

ore the MTO , that oleg want to make in the fare future , without P-40s in all variants andf more - also , not able to imagine

IV_JG51_Razor
05-02-2005, 08:11 AM
If Oleg were to do a Korean add-on, he would need to add the F9F Panther, the F2H Banshee, the AD Skyraider, and the F4U-4 Corsair in order to make it as real as Oleg would want it. Oh yeah, I almost forgot, the Seafury as well. Sorry, I'm not very knowledgable about RN carrier activities during that war. What else did they fly besides the Seafury?

JG53Frankyboy
05-02-2005, 09:01 AM
Seafire and Firefly

Vigilanty
05-03-2005, 01:57 AM
F-84G. I love that plane. There's a wholly fan-made addon F-84G in WoV and it's great. You might check out SFp1/WoV if you're hankering for some Korean war era jets. Here are some screenies:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/vigilantefromvenus/F-84G.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/vigilantefromvenus/Mystere_IVA.jpg

BigKahuna_GS
05-04-2005, 02:12 PM
S!


Actually Oleg expressed intrest in doing this last year. The big question is; how do you find the time ?


I think a Korean add-on would be great. All the great prop planes that just missed WW2 and the early jets including one of my favorites the F-86 Sabre.


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LuckyBoy1
05-04-2005, 03:15 PM
While I've always said Oleg is NOT a God, but a man, I've pretty much got to a point where I'll buy anything flight sim he's got going regardless of who is marketing it for him. I'd buy a Korean add-on.

Recon_609IAP
05-04-2005, 04:32 PM
Mig Alley please - I would rather have Mig Alley than BoB http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Philipscdrw
05-04-2005, 04:56 PM
One problem - would the American jet manufacturers throw up a stink about someone using their designs in a simulator?

I would love to see a Korean sim, or, in fact, any decent simulation of the beautiful Hunter. Oh, the Hunter...

Reaves_42
05-04-2005, 11:10 PM
As somone above stated, i'd buy any flight Sim Oleg puts out. A Korean one would be great. I'm normally not a fan of Jet sims because the weapons are boring but i'm sure early jets will not have heat seekers and such...

I would also like a WW1 mod. Who wants to jump into a Sopwith Camel? =)

NAFP_supah
05-05-2005, 02:49 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Silencer_42:
As somone above stated, i'd buy any flight Sim Oleg puts out. A Korean one would be great. I'm normally not a fan of Jet sims because the weapons are boring but i'm sure early jets will not have heat seekers and such...

I would also like a WW1 mod. Who wants to jump into a Sopwith Camel? =) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well the would have early heat seakers like the GAR-8 which was a very early sidewinder. But believe those missiles had a lot of "Character" and were quite a challenge to use succesfully. They dont call them miss-iles for nothing http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

BTW wouldnt a hunter get pwned pretty badly by its contemporaries? MiG-19 and early MiG-21? A beauty indeed but I'd rather have the 104 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Daiichidoku
05-05-2005, 07:26 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Badsight.:
& La-9s http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

& the Bearcat could be our what if , would it rock ? oooh yes it would </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


La9s? they only made, like, 16 of them


La-11 another story though...

Daiichidoku
05-05-2005, 07:34 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LEXX_Luthor:
You could sell Oleg's 1950-1970 sim, like Oleg's Spanish Civil WAR (or Oleg's 1919-1939 sim), this would represent All Nations and All Pilots, and would attract people all over the world. When Oleg makes something, he makes something BiGG. A Korea addon pac would work well, among other theaters. Or, the series could start in 1950 Korea and move forward.

We would see a New Era of flight simming, to see teh board Whining about losing internet dogfight Brownie Points in...

Hawker Hunter
Folland Gnat
Supermarine Swift
BAe Lightning
Dassault Mystere
Mirage III
Saab J~35
Fiat G.91
La~15
F~106
CF~101 (with Iriquois powered CF~105 "fantasy" plane http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)

Not to mention bombers like B~47 (like fighter), Canberra, IL~28, Tu~20 would be really cool to fly. B~58 and Mirage IV too. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

mm, a Fiat jet in children playground ~~&gt; http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/planes/q0138.shtml </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


yes, B 58 hustler..sweet

but was CF 100, not 101...

yea, CF105 arrow would be FB Go229/185/Do335 etc
never even flew with Iroqouis engine, I think it was 2X J-75s...outstanding, even with those wimp eninges in it...with the Orendas? WHOAAAAA
but then, it was also never fitted with a FCS, so kinda useless, lol
Vampires
Vemons
Sea Vixens
Lightnings
Broadeurs!
Sud-Oest Vatours, yum!
Il28 Beagles
Yak Brewsters and Flashlights!

let alone the western jets, a myriad of soviet jet types (even if many of them were experimentals or produced in super low numbers)

SO many interesting types from all nations 50s-60s


a Korea/ColdWar sim would HAVE to include rotary types toohttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


Cherokee!


ok, i almost forget, to go along with the CF 105s,

NA F-107s
Vought Crusader II (truly astounding performance, that one)



oh, and now i remember the USN's F4d(ford), and Vought Cutlass (gutless)

LEXX_Luthor
05-05-2005, 06:01 PM
CF~100 yes. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Phillips said "Hawker Hunter." This is rare among flight simmers. I have a theory that flight simmers ask for only what they have already seen in previous flight sims. The one big exception is they didn't ask for Eastern Front--but we got it anyway, http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Hawker Hunter is among the most Perfect planes for combat flight simming.

The new Jet Thunder sim (Argentina vs UK) website said they are leaving open possibilities for further "in house" addon aircraft. This sim, starting with Flyable Mirage III, A4 SkyHawk, Super~Entendard, and Hawker Harrier, shows it may be the *best* possibility to create a 1950-1970 jet sim, but working backwards in time. F~16 Falcon and LOMAC have the "Teen Fighter" (tm) flight sim genre wrapped up between the two of them, and the currently alive Eagle Dynamics shows no interest in going back in time, so this Jet Thunder could be It.

tsisqua
05-06-2005, 07:19 AM
I do not think that the marketability of new addons for IL2 will end with the release of BoB. I do, however, believe that it will need to be done by someone other than 1C's main team (Hi, Luthier http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif). The IL2 series will allow us all to fly many theatres while new stuff is being developed for the BoB engine . . . while we wait.

I have the CFS3 Korean addon, and it is really good, but it will never be what a Korean addon for FB/AEP/PF can be. I definitely vote for this, and would buy it in a heartbeat . . . uh, . . . as long as it isn't released this month. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Tsisqua

Slickun
05-09-2005, 03:32 PM
F-101B Voodoo and the nuclear charged Geenie missiles.

SpartanHoplite
05-09-2005, 03:43 PM
For what its worth (not much), I'll throw in on this one, too. Korea would be awesome - probably only need one map, plus a half-dozen planes or so (there might be gaps, but there always is) - as long as you have the F-86 and MiG-15 (plus what we already have), eveything else'd be gravy. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

SH

Bremspropeller
05-09-2005, 05:22 PM
Well finally a sim where I could try out the best prop-fighter of all ages:

Hawker Sea Fury http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

fordfan25
05-09-2005, 10:25 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Copperhead310th:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RiesenSchnauzer:
If the licensing issue talked about on these boards is real then stocking an add on with US planes would be problematic. That is supposed to be the current reason this engine will never see an F4U-4 or a P-47N. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

yeah it'd true all right.
and i'm wondering if after that well ever see another Maddox sim with US aircraft in it again. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

lol if not time for this old cowboy to ride off in the sun set

Philipscdrw
05-11-2005, 03:41 AM
BTW wouldnt a hunter get pwned pretty badly by its contemporaries? MiG-19 and early MiG-21? A beauty indeed but I'd rather have the 104 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

What blasphemy is this? A single Hunter could wipe out the entire Soviet arsenal, because their pilots can't bear to fire on something so beautiful!

Not knowing a huge amount about the Hunter (except it was hugely successful in export, and built in large numbers for at least 15 years) I don't really know its capabilities. But I can't imagine it being anything less than equal to the contemporaries.

Enforcer572005
05-11-2005, 06:23 AM
Yeah, Id buy it to, especially if it added a couple of cruisers and destroyers we need so badly...

but I think this lawyer **** is an april fools day joke that has gone too far.....have all the model companies gone out of business yet? Nope, and they would if that were to happen.

I cant even imagine a bunch of slimey lawyers getting together to represent all the american aircraft companies, most of whom arent even in existance anymore, to do this.

What lawyer is working for Vought or RePublic? this is a lot of garbage I feel. I want the name of the lawfirm and who thier client is; until then, any mention of this as a reason for not getting certain planes has no basis in reality, in my humble opinion.

Of course I could be wrong, but Id like to be convinced of it. I already saw where this was an april fools joke, or was that a joke to ?

Badsight.
05-11-2005, 07:05 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Daiichidoku:
La9s? they only made, like, 16 of them


La-11 another story though... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>your talking about flying during the Korean war i hope

because a LOT more than 16 La-9 were made , La-11s are just bigger fuel tank La-9s

where did you read of only 16 La-9s being made ?

csThor
05-11-2005, 07:25 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tsisqua:
I do not think that the marketability of new addons for IL2 will end with the release of BoB. I do, however, believe that it will need to be done by someone other than 1C's main team (Hi, Luthier http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif). The IL2 series will allow us all to fly many theatres while new stuff is being developed for the BoB engine . . . while we wait.
Tsisqua </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Unfortunately PF has proven that Luthier has been unable to finish the project with the allocated ressources within the projected timeframe and I strongly doubt that Maddox Games is willing to do such a gamble again.

Secondly Oleg has stated quite often that BoB and beyond will be based on knowledge gained with Il-2/FB/PF which also means certain passages of the old code might find its way into BoB. Because of that Maddox Games will probably unwilling to hand out the sourcecode t oany 3rd Party for AddOn production.

Aaron_GT
05-11-2005, 07:52 AM
Don't forget the Canberra/B-57.

LEXX_Luthor
05-12-2005, 05:42 PM
Phillips, learn about Hawker Hunter ~~&gt; http://www.vectorsite.net/avhunt1.html

And No, its not the most pretty plane. For that you Google search for <span class="ev_code_yellow">Supermarine Swift</span> http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif
GT:: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Don't forget the Canberra/B-57. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Just last night using my new StrikeFighters sim I dogfought with B~57 while flying a Su~7. It could turn with me, a little better I think, but I had the vertical and thrust/mass advantage (or at least Afterburner Advantage -- but only for a very few minutes using the -7). B~57 had low wingloading, although also with low aspect ratio, so this didn't surprise me. I really don't know much about these planes capability in a "dogfight."

This would be a New Age of flight simming, posting on webboard about combats between the old crapp jets, something between the fps shooter 1944 prop planes and the LOMAC Teen Fighters(tm). 1950-1970 is the Forgotten Generation. Oleg does his best work when he covers the Forgotten theme. This is why I say Oleg should dump BoB+ and make 1950-1970 jetsim and/or Spanish Civil WAR with China/Mongolia addon pac.

Antonio_MRZ
05-13-2005, 02:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by daFat1:
Is there anything like this on the market already? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Target Korea, it's a free beta up to now.
http://www.targetware.net

Antonio