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FI_Macca44
05-10-2005, 06:07 AM
is it possible?Stop engines, and dive slowly to lay the uboot and be undetectable by sonar....I remember that it was possible in Aces of The Deep....i think so...

S!

Macca

FI_Macca44
05-10-2005, 06:07 AM
is it possible?Stop engines, and dive slowly to lay the uboot and be undetectable by sonar....I remember that it was possible in Aces of The Deep....i think so...

S!

Macca

jmikkelsen
05-10-2005, 06:15 AM
its possible, but you will have to come to a dead stop before hitting the bottom or your sub wil take damage.

V-MAN1981
05-10-2005, 07:40 AM
Best thing to do Is run your boat at flank and set your depth to be at least 50 meters deeper than the depth actually is then when you hit the bottom you'll be fine. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Praetorian_Elite
05-10-2005, 07:55 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FI_Macca44:
is it possible?Stop engines, and dive slowly to lay the uboot and be undetectable by sonar....I remember that it was possible in Aces of The Deep....i think so...

S!

Macca </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It helps with concealing you, but if the guy operating the sonar is good enough, he will be able to distinguish the hard ping of a steel hull from the soft ping of sand around it.

And now, if you are detected, you will be stuck in sand with depth charges falling on top of you.

Athlonics
05-10-2005, 09:42 AM
Yop Praetorian and it seems like luck is in the party too.

I saved my game lying at the bottom and with a DD approaching seeking for me.

I reloaded this saved game 3 times and :

1st time : The DD ping once and depth charged 100 meters behind me.

2nd time : The DD pinged like hell but didn't find me at all.

3rd time : The DD score a direct hit on my face with depths charges, leaving me with 20% hull integrity and light flooding.


Arghh I love this game !

Luv_Muffin
05-10-2005, 12:17 PM
Last night I had some bottom-feeder experience.
I had earlier engaged a convoy, sank many ships until I had no more torps, but was prevented from engaging them with my deck gun (beautiful weather too http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif ), because some allied joker thought it would be fun to put guns on their cargo ships. Them and one destroyer was too much for my little U-boat to handle.

I sailed away, but got a repeated report from BdU about another convoy heading directly towards me. I sat at periscope depth, for a few hours, and maneuvered until the fleet sailed directly over me. I resurfaced right in the middle of the convoy (without armed cargo ships), sank a C3 ship, hammered the convoys destroyer with gun fire when it turned on me, and a C2 who I was using for cover took some hits for me. I had to dive again when the destroyer wouldn't go down, and the ships I was trying to use for cover tried to ram me.

I sank to 30m, rigged for silent, but was getting pinged. Avoided depth charges, moved a bit, and dived to 60m. More depth charges, so I dived to the bottom. That destroyer called another destroyer, and three corvettes to look for me. I sat about 10m off the bottom, they knew I was in the area, came close a few too many times with depth charges. I slowly moved away each time they dropped charges, and got away. Very intense.

Now I still have some ammo in my deck gun, and want to sink more shipping before I return to base, but it seems my attacks on two convoys has gotten a lot of attention. The area is filthy with destroyers and 'vettes now. Argh! Maybe I'll have to be smart, and just start sailing home and sink what I can, hiding on the bottom has rattled me. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I need more torpedoes, and have to install the 1.3 patch.

Pappy44_6
05-10-2005, 12:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I had to dive again when the destroyer wouldn't go down, and the ships I was trying to use for cover tried to ram me </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

how freakin rude...some people's childeren...geesh...I mean, you were just using them for cover...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

TheRealWulfmann
05-10-2005, 12:48 PM
L-M, that was intense.
I guess I am a wus because my philosophia is to avoid confrontation at the expence of sinking the enemy.
I wait in front of a reported convoy on silent and try and pick off the lead escort to reduce the chances then get what I can and avoid being too determined pretending this is for real life and death. Of course, this has much to do with previous campaigns that ended in horrible death for me and the lads in my keep!
After four of my brave boys met their end from an MTB (Including my gunner and flakmann) I even dive from them. My job is to stop supplies. I have yet to find a warship task force as I stay in the known shipping lanes. But, as 1940 comes to a close I will enter 1941 for the first time and I am sure my happy days of 34K per patrol average will become more difficult. Then I will be off to Florida for the last fun before the real tough stuff starts.
Wulfmann

Luv_Muffin
05-10-2005, 02:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I guess I am a wus because my philosophia is to avoid confrontation at the expence of sinking the enemy. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Heh heh. Yeah, well it's my first campaign, and I have always been more brave than smart. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
Good thing I sailed away, after checking my deck gun, I had a total of 3 Anti-Armor rounds left! Other ammunition was dry. I wonder if those last three anti-armor rounds would have sank that destroyer though... if I had just waited a few more seconds...
*sigh* Better safe than swimming, I suppose.
11 ships sunk, for 79744 tons.

cuthy2k
05-12-2005, 05:38 PM
nothing better than sitting in the path of a convoy and waiting for the lead (and sometimes only) escort to sail past... the BOOM! Happy deck gun hunting from their on in. At least thats what i thought... 3 C2's , 1 C3 and a couple small merchants into my spree i get 'Enemy ship engaging us, sir!'... im like WTF? Whip out my binoculars and sure enough a corvette has appeared out of no-where... his 2nd shot lands ON my flak gunner and im wiping his guts from my uniform... so i turn into him to lessen the target and commence firing. Killed him with 4 HE rounds then 6, YES SIX PT's appear! More happy hunting for Mr Deck gun... then 3 bloody destroyers appear! Time to dive me think... forgot to mention that i almost got rammed by a small tanker during this! lol... put 1 torp at each DD and get 1 kill plus 1 damage and slowly sinking... problem is i hit a wreck from one of the C2's i sunk (it was below the water level) and that was me.... mission over! I LOVE THIS GAME!!!

Twelvefield
05-12-2005, 07:26 PM
For the hell of it, after watching torpedoes bounce off of a C2, I decided to try to dive through the ocean bottom: flank speed and press D to dive. The bottom was 90M below the keel.

When I hit, I created a massive 1% hull damage. The front quarters took on a little water, but the damage crew repaired it.

I put the damage crew to rest, rose to periscope depth, and then dove at the ocean floor again. 1% more damage, and the torpedo compartment got hit. The crew repaired the damage automatically, without me using a repair team.

I reapeated this stunt three more times. The hull damage was maybe around 90%. The crew just repaired stuff on their own.

This was with patch 1.3. Maybe if I could have dove deeper before hitting the bottom, the damage would have been more severe, but it definitely was not a U-Boat-killer.

TorpedoChris
05-13-2005, 12:37 AM
Well, the only time I did this I had something like 1% damage by going really slow to the bottom (0 speed). But I stayed there for an hour or so, and every few minutes I had damage occuring, even if I was not moving, and depth was really not that bad (around 50-60 m). Really bothering, because I had to repair damage all the time while waiting for the DDs to go...

Aragorn87
05-13-2005, 01:09 AM
Yeah, tonight i attacked a convoy and managed to expend the torpedos i had. Long story short it ended up having a convo full of armed merchants and troop transports. 3 flower corvettes and two destroyer escorts. I managed to sink a few ships and hit a c3 under the bow. He still had full propulsion so he was still in formation. I evaded the escorts, surfaced behind the convo and ran after the c3 which was on fire. I was intercepted by first a flower corvette, which i turned into a burning hulk and continued passed him. The DE then came after me, and with a few well placed ap shots on his bow below the waterline he quickly went under. The Last engagement i took the worst damage, another flower corvette came after me and i also managed to sink him, but i had the convo abeam and reciveved a few hard hits. As soon as i turned back into them it was alot harder to hit me and i managed to sink the c3 before the thirs flower corvette could get into firing range, thank god the other DE left me alone. As soon as i saw the c3 explode i came about and managed to hold a steady 21 knots at ahead flank and outran the corvette. I got my intended target and 3 escorts along with it, all in a gunfight on the surface. I did come away with some scars, a dead crewman a wounded crewman and 16% hull integretiy.

marctbates
05-13-2005, 04:00 AM
I was on patrol in 1939 in my Type IIB near Scapa Flow didn€t have much joy so I went into Scapa flow and found myself a revenge battleship lined myself up with it and let rip. Scored 3 shots 1 at the stern, second hit the centre, and the 3rd one hit the bow it started to list but didn€t go down. So I had to reload by this time there was a swarm of destroyers all over me. So I had to sit her on the bottom I just did a normal dive and hit the A key at the last minute before I hit the bottom to sit her down nicely re loaded and went to periscope depth and finished the Battleship off. And I just slipped away quietly. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Luv_Muffin
05-13-2005, 12:16 PM
Ooooh! Sweet. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">And I just slipped away quietly. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Praetorian27
05-16-2005, 06:10 PM
Here's me lying on the bottom hiding from the Tommies!

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/Praetorian27/bottom.jpg

jbacon69
05-16-2005, 08:41 PM
I too tried to sneak into scapa but i took the nw channel thats only guarded by the elco boat. too make a long story short i tried to sit on the bottom and wait for the torp boat to pass bc the seas were choppy and i kept bobbing above the surface. well i started bouncing off the bottom
bc of the swells and the elco ran into my conning tower(hollywood damage mod) and knocked it off.This was a blessing in discuise as i was now able to run almost surfaced and still be in stealth mode lol Helped make up for the 40% hull i had left from the bottom bashing i took.

wheelbarrow1956
05-17-2005, 03:48 AM
Back in 1976 we were doing exercises with the US off the NE Australian coast, and the sub I was on ('O' class, diesel electric, Royal Australian Navy), managed to "sink" the USS Enterprise. We snuck thru 11 escorts to get close enough to fire 5 mk 48's at her in a classic 5-finger spread, and all of them hit her, according to the computers.(obviously it was a simulated firing) The escorts went absolutely beserk looking for us, and our skipper at the time did a brilliant job evading detection, but we eventually got trapped between this line of searching escorts and the coast, so the skipper put us into this small bay, and then we sat on the bottom with everything turned off. All the escorts passed over us without finding us, even though they were pinging the bay relentlessly. Then they all passed over us again on their way out of the bay, and still no detection. Water depth was approx 160ft, if memory serves, so sitting quietly on the bottom is a proven way to avoid detection in a lot of cases. (I still have the front page of the newspaper showing us coming back into harbour after the exercise with a broom lashed to the attack periscope, signifying a "clean sweep"....

The Avon Lady
05-17-2005, 03:51 AM
I think the same thing happened within the last two years in exercises involving US ships and diesel subs.

wheelbarrow1956
05-17-2005, 03:58 AM
I wouldn't be surprised, they were/are without a doubt the quietest subs out there, bar none, as long as the skipper and his crew know their stuff. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

zzzspace
05-17-2005, 10:31 AM
The only problem with sitting on the bottom is that when a DC explodes close it shunts the sub hard ... first upwards, then down again €¦crunch! It hits the bottom heavily and kicks up a cloud of mud as it hits and does so and causes a lot of damage (two crew killed from it). I figure one meter off the bottom might be a better option as this still seems to confuse the DDs pings and your precise location.