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Bearcat99
01-26-2005, 06:16 AM

LEXX_Luthor
01-26-2005, 08:11 AM
Not only do I never bother, I make it a point to never buy anything offering a Rebate, so I never had the chance to mess with it.

You should always find the same thing elsewhere without a Rebate. Also significant is the Time a shopper must spend to get a rebate. Time is Money.

The points you mention show rebates are not an honest business method, and smart shoppers prove it can be a way to lose sales...not enough smart shoppers though. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Not sure, I "heard" the retail stores don't really like rebates, but the distributors or manufacturers like them. True? False?

Money Changers

TgD Thunderbolt56
01-26-2005, 08:19 AM
I don't buy anything specifically as a result of the rebate, but I can always use one (regardless of the amount) as an excuse to buy something else later on.

My Wife and I have an understanding that any rebate that comes in as a result of one of my hardware puchases goes in MY little kitty for later purchases.

Even if it's a $5 rebate, it's worth the price of a stamp and envelope. I just view it as "found" money when it arrives.


TB

Cossack13
01-26-2005, 08:25 AM
I did a little car sales right after college. When the manufacturers first offered rebates, they were supposed to be sent to the customer afterwards. Of course, the customers invariably said "Bull!" to that and demanded the rebate be treated as a discount.

They got their way.

Perhaps you need to make more noise on this directly to the company involved?

LEXX_Luthor
01-26-2005, 08:30 AM
Thunderbold:: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Even if it's a $5 rebate, it's worth the price of a stamp and envelope. I just view it as "found" money when it arrives. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif By then you have long forgotten the Time you spent filling out the forms, and the Time you must now spend to cash the check (if its a check, never rebated myself).

How much does the rebate system add to the operating costs of the businesses who offer rebates? If Bear's points are true, the rebates' profitability depends on some if not most people not getting rebates for whatever reason. This is Lottery~esque perhaps.

Capt._Tenneal
01-26-2005, 08:50 AM
What are the purpose of rebates anyway ? I look at a Comp USA ad and see $ 200 off a GeForce 6800, then see that the $ 200 is mostly due to rebates. Well, why not knock off $ 200 at the store, if you're going to give it to me anyway. Why go through the rigmarole of clipping UPC sybols and mailing them back, then waiting 8 - 10 weeks for your check ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

TgD Thunderbolt56
01-26-2005, 08:52 AM
you may be right Lexx. I always just looked at it as "...cool, a rebate!"

LuckyBoy1
01-26-2005, 09:24 AM
Rebates are as my WWII combat veteran Father would say...

It's a socialist plot to overthrow God fearing Nations!

I'm not exactly sure what that means, but...

In my words, it is simply a scam. Even if you get the money back, they've sold your information to every spammer this and the other side of hell. Also, you have to dig through every last piece of junk mail to make sure you are not throwing it away. The rebate checks often come entombed in advertizing.

Wanna give me a priice break?... ok, do it at the cash register or as far as I'm concerned, the rebate does not apply to me... or any of my hippy, pinko type friends as the Grey Ghost would say! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Lightning72
01-26-2005, 09:28 AM
From the reports I've read, both uptake and fulfillment of rebates are very market dependent. Rebates have been popular in the US but have really been relatively unsuccessful in Canada and Europe (if they apply at all).

I personally find them to be counter-productive. If I read the fine print and see that a rebate excludes me or has hoops that I have to jump through, I move on, just on principle because I feel like I'm being scammed.

TugZooey
01-26-2005, 09:34 AM
I always send them in. Office Depot or Staples sometimes has 100 cdr for 19.99 with 15.00 rebate.

No brainer to me.

LuckyBoy1
01-26-2005, 09:34 AM
"And again you just sweared that you'd never shop there, by a gun that didn't make any noise"... Steve Winwood.

As long as people go for deals based on mail in rebates or pay now and maybe get it back someday type deals, we will never get out of this nonsense.

It's kinda like Racer X says... you know, my friend who works in the IT department for the 10th largest spammer in the U.S....

"It's no longer spam if they are interested in the offer".

Nobody... and I mean nobody will ever admit to going for a product or service they learned about through a spam mailing. Yet there is no shortage of work in the spam industry. Paid work that is and quite handsomely at that.

In that same way, we will see people say they won't go for rebates... ok, but I ain't holding my breath for the day that it will all turn out that way!

JG52Uther
01-26-2005, 09:42 AM
Rebates? is that an American thing.Here in the UK we just get screwed http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

sunflower1
01-26-2005, 10:04 AM
Rebates are a marketing device designed to draw attention to a commodity product or to challenge brand loyalty by offering a "free trial." They are a form of advertising and treated as an expense.

People whose Repetition Compulsion includes coupon clipping often buy most of what they need for nearly nothing. Of course this is an expense and whether or not it is rational depends on the alternatives for deploying time.

For example, a person trying to recover from a head injury or stuck in one place in an underemployed state might be well-employed clipping coupons.

May we all be so fortunate as to live above that level.

Jumoschwanz
01-26-2005, 10:09 AM
Nothing is for free in Capitalism.

The form you fill out with your personal information for a rebate is sold to anyone who wants to buy it. Then you are put on mailing lists and are bombarded by yet more e-mail spam and junk snail-mail printed on paper made from virgin rain forest trees.
Also if you count your time filling out the rebate form, mailing it in, opening and cashing in the rebate and dealing with the spam and junk mail, you waste a lot of time. If you look at your lowered quality of life, and pay yourself twenty to forty dollars an hour for the time you spend on this **** you are getting no deal at all.
As was said above though("it's a no-brainer") , rebates are for those with no brains.
The Capitalist machine, which depends on mindless and wasteful consumerism, depends on idiots that believe they are getting a "good deal" simply because they are told so, they cannot see or think beyond this.
So they spend thier lives as sheep, doing what a greed-driven, power thirsty, techno-industrial entity bids them to do with thier lives. They are indoctrinated into this way of life at birth and are not shown, and are incapable of seeing any free way of life.
The entrenched spectre of this "new world order" and it's automaton-like, mindless consumerism is the cause of most of the needless suffering and explotation of human beings in the world today. For example, these "rebaters" demand cheap oil and SUVs, so the "new world order" went into Afghanistan and Iraq, deposed a sovereign state, and killed hundreds of thousands of it's citizens to get oil for it's atomaton, mindless consumers. And on, and on and on.............

Jumoschwanz

sunflower1
01-26-2005, 10:19 AM
"The Capitalist machine, which depends on mindless and wasteful consumerism, depends on idiots that believe they are getting a "good deal" simply because they are told so, they cannot see or think beyond this."

While this is received Truth in some places, its against the rules here. I may be new, but I know what rules are and how to read and interpret them.

You're on a limb, whether you're an Ace fighter jock or not.

TugZooey
01-26-2005, 10:34 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jumoschwanz:
Nothing is for free in Capitalism.

The form you fill out with your personal information for a rebate is sold to anyone who wants to buy it. Then you are put on mailing lists and are bombarded by yet more e-mail spam and junk snail-mail printed on paper made from virgin rain forest trees.
Also if you count your time filling out the rebate form, mailing it in, opening and cashing in the rebate and dealing with the spam and junk mail, you waste a lot of time. If you look at your lowered quality of life, and pay yourself twenty to forty dollars an hour for the time you spend on this **** you are getting no deal at all.
As was said above though("it's a no-brainer") , rebates are for those with no brains.
The Capitalist machine, which depends on mindless and wasteful consumerism, depends on idiots that believe they are getting a "good deal" simply because they are told so, they cannot see or think beyond this.
So they spend thier lives as sheep, doing what a greed-driven, power thirsty, techno-industrial entity bids them to do with thier lives. They are indoctrinated into this way of life at birth and are not shown, and are incapable of seeing any free way of life.
The entrenched spectre of this "new world order" and it's automaton-like, mindless consumerism is the cause of most of the needless suffering and explotation of human beings in the world today. For example, these "rebaters" demand cheap oil and SUVs, so the "new world order" went into Afghanistan and Iraq, deposed a sovereign state, and killed hundreds of thousands of it's citizens to get oil for it's atomaton, mindless consumers. And on, and on and on.............

Jumoschwanz <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


got your tinfoil you elitist ****?

Daiichidoku
01-26-2005, 11:10 AM
I never knew of the word "rebate" until Iococca's K-car

That man opened Pandora's Box

Jumoschwanz
01-26-2005, 11:26 AM
Well maybe this whole subject should have been put in the OT thread? This was started by a mod, and how can an off-topic post have a reply that is not off topic?

And no I do not have any tinfoil. If I have to preserve something i use re-usable containers, I save my old bread-bags to put my sandwiches in for work, you can wash and re-use them and they last for years. My car is 15 years old, my motorcycle turns 44 this year, all my shoes are over five years old, as are a lot of my clothes. I don't eat any fast food, it takes me two weeks to begin to fill up one garbage bag. I recycle. I have a garden. I never buy anything new that I can get used, this saves me money and keeps that many more resources from being mined from mother earth. I subscribe to a clean energy utility, I use fourescent lighting. I drive slow and turn my water heater down enough so I can take a shower without turning on the cold at all, it comes out at the right temperature. I have training in the repair of swiss watches and wear a mechanical watch i repair myself. This keeps me from buying batteries to throw out, and keeps that many from being manufactured again. My home stereo is put together from thirty year old and older components I got for pennies on the dollar, and I still play vinyl records i get for nothing others throw out. I only ever bought one new TV. The only computer software I ever bought new was this series of sims. My OS win2000 I got used with my first used system, with works suite 2002 I got at the Salvation Army for less than three bucks! The clock in my kitchen is from the thirties, I got it for nothing and it took me two years to find a good motor for it in a pile of junk in this old man's garden shed. Keeps great time now. My stove is a 1951 Tappan deluxe I got for $25, I spent two weeks taking it completely apart, rewiring it,painting it and checking the gas valves etc., it is a peach now and goes good with my early fifties dinette($40),this kept one stove and one dinette set from being manufactured and sold, worth the effort for sure. I just wired a friends basement using a used hand crank brace(read drill for youngins) and wood bit to drill through the studs. My sisters house needed resided, we cut down a tulip poplar in my fathers woods and had the Amish mill it into new siding, looks good........and on, and on, and on.........S!

Jumoschwanz

Heavy_Weather
01-26-2005, 11:44 AM
this is a good question although personally i try to avoid rebates, they have come in handy also. just another marketing scheme i guess, and they really just mail you a check from the profit they make it seems. so in the end you really dont save too much. just another hassle http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

GT182
01-26-2005, 11:56 AM
I'll send in for a rebate any day... and for the same reasons as TgD Thunderbolt56. A little money back for a product with a rebate is always good for my pocket. I can put it towards something else... hmmmm maybe that new 6800GT or Ultra.

But the thing that burns my bunns is the rebate offerer trying to renig on ya. Having that problem right now with Plextor and the rebate offered on NewEgg in November for a PX-712A DVD+-R/RW CD-R/RW. Just got a card from them yesterday saying the wrong UPC symbol was sent in, which is probably true as there were only 3 of em on the box. LOL Now to wait and see if it's refused again, which will result in my calling both Plextor and NewEgg with some very unkind words. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Jumoschwanz
01-26-2005, 12:22 PM
It is ok Sunflower, I will understand if they ban me. I have over three hundred posts here which is a lot, but not a lot relatively speaking when you see it has taken me since march 2002 to write this many. So it will not hurt my lifstyle if I cannot post here anymore, the www. is full of thousands of forums I can use and be banned from if I need to write on one.

I don't ever read rules. I figure if you are relatively sane your daily actions should be in sync with the world around you, and if your actions are a problem for someone who can say if the problem is with you or them? In a society full of waste and war and explotation I do not fit in. Those who learned to be thrifty becuase they were alive during the great depression(my father) and those who were raised by these thrifty poeple are not in vogue at all these days, but this does not bother us.
The current generations on the other hand are deeply disturbed if they do not think they are "with the times", so there life is one of keeping up with, and being as much like "the Joneses" as they can.
If I can get one person maybe think a little about what they are doing day to day it is worth it for me.
Thanks all and I guess this is goodbye, Sunflofwer says I am getting kicked, and I believe! Take care and S!

Jumoschwanz

Bearcat99
01-26-2005, 01:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lightning72:
From the reports I've read, both uptake and fulfillment of rebates are very market dependent. Rebates have been popular in the US but have really been relatively unsuccessful in Canada and Europe (if they apply at all).

I personally find them to be counter-productive. If I read the fine print and see that a rebate excludes me or has hoops that I have to jump through, I move on, just on principle because I feel like I'm being scammed. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually rebates are not popular at all in the US.. most of us would like to just get the discount... we have no choice at the moment.. or so it seems... I dont care for thwm.. I use them because in many cases its the only way to get a decent buy on something.

Bearcat99
01-26-2005, 01:11 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jumoschwanz:
Well maybe this whole subject should have been put in the OT thread? This was started by a mod, and how can an off-topic post have a reply that is not off topic?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

This is only slightly off topic... we all use video cards,memory,motherboards,cases,powersupplies... all kinds of stuff.. to fly THIS SIM .... and a lot of it goes on sale.. with rebates.. so I think it is very relevant.. even if indirectly. Joysticks, harddrives,monitors,soundcards,computers,.. rebates... all of them..

How many things have you bought specificly to run this sim.... that came with rebates..? Either when you bought it or at one time or another.. I think it is VERY relevent to what we do here and worthy of a discussion at least. And it doesnt have to be hijacked into some anti capitalist political rant.. because THAT is not what it is about and THAT is even more off topic than the subject of the thread. So keep it on point please and save the high voltage political rhetoric for CWOS- Civilization Phase III..... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

whitetornado_1
01-26-2005, 01:39 PM
You rarely get an answer back when you post in rebates. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

I want a free IR tracker combo box with the next IL-2 FB+AEP+PF+? Addon game. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

huggy87
01-26-2005, 05:16 PM
Jumoschwanz, your first post really rubbed me the wrong way. To suggest that we British, Spanish, Americans, Australians, and others went into Afghanistan and Iraq for cheap oil is brainwashed micheal moore Cr@p. I fought in both nations, and I am paying more at the gas pump than ever before. Other than that snide comment of yours, I found your over-arching point about how our excessive consumerism is ruining our lives and world to be spot on. It is amazing how much we humans waste and take for granted. I admire your personal efforts to leave as little a footprint as possible. I personally (although less extremely than you) try to minimize my waste and consumption. My wife, on the other hand, like most "rebaters", refuses to recycle and gives a rats @ss about the environment. Very frustrating.

BaldieJr
01-26-2005, 07:16 PM
A good nights rest is important for ones outlook.

wayno7777
01-26-2005, 08:02 PM
I prefer the instant rebates. Just a fancy way of saying it's on sale.

Howie A
01-26-2005, 09:10 PM
I suggest anyone who desires political/ideological discussion to give CWOS Phase3 a try. Its very open with views from left to right; even the Mods go at one another. But subjects may have to be approached with more maturity than here, or some people may not get far http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

e5kimo
01-27-2005, 01:06 AM
i think in this poll you are missing the option:
wtf is bearcat talking about?

isnt a rebate a percentage of the buy price when you pay ? seriously, i m lost. what is this about ? do i need to cut something out and sent it to ubi ? what is going on ?

*confused*

MO_JOJO
01-27-2005, 01:09 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Capt._Tenneal:
What are the purpose of rebates anyway ? I look at a Comp USA ad and see $ 200 off a GeForce 6800, then see that the $ 200 is mostly due to rebates. Well, why not knock off $ 200 at the store, if you're going to give it to me anyway. Why go through the rigmarole of clipping UPC sybols and mailing them back, then waiting 8 - 10 weeks for your check ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

They are playing the odds. They know that most people screw something up in the process or forget to send it in, then they don't have to pay.

I bought a ton of stuff at Office Max after Thanksgiving Day, but did not realize they had a 14 days after purchase deadline. So I took those items back and got a refund. The rest of the things had mfr rebates that I am waiting to receive. I did already rec'v $60 on 2 items, and have about $300 still out there somewhere.

It's a good deal if you are organized and have a copier, which I am when it comes to free money.

WTE_Ibis
01-27-2005, 02:32 AM
ATI promised me Half Life2 if I spent A$830 and bought their latest card.
When it comes their turn to honour the contract guess what.
Bugger off m8, we got your money.

Last time I buy ATI, some incentive to buy their product,like hell.This is not a thumb,it's my middle finger for ATI. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif