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Shrap
05-20-2005, 08:40 PM
Just heard about it, where do I go to see more info about what it's going to contain?

Shrap
05-20-2005, 08:40 PM
Just heard about it, where do I go to see more info about what it's going to contain?

Badsight.
05-20-2005, 08:49 PM
maps , planes , AI change , FM change

Aero_Shodanjo
05-20-2005, 09:31 PM
Lots of 0's and 1's

F4U_Flyer
05-20-2005, 09:45 PM
Tell ya in two weeks!......I hope! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

nearmiss
05-20-2005, 09:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Aero_Shodanjo:
Lots of 0's and 1's </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So...all we're doing is shooting down zeros and ones with zeros and ones. So who wins in the war of zeros and ones --- http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif go figger

Aero_Shodanjo
05-20-2005, 10:07 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by nearmiss:So who wins in the war of zeros and ones --- http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif go figger </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The electric companies and your ISP. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

AerialTarget
05-20-2005, 10:33 PM
I don't know who wins over ones, but the P-38 wins over Zeroes!

Waldo.Pepper
05-20-2005, 10:36 PM
I'm hoping for ham.

I love ham.

lkemling
05-20-2005, 11:03 PM
Come back in a year or so.mabe by then there'll be somethin' to look at!!

heywooood
05-20-2005, 11:39 PM
whoa...who is calling it a 'mega patch' ???

Ian Boys says the planes have been pulled out for later release on a CD ADDON - the patch 4.0 will have maps,sans campaigns and the new BoB FM beta.

The campaigns that are to compliment the new maps Kurland and Murmansk - are to be on the CD ADDON with the planes...that will be a PAID ADDON CD

not included in the 4.0 patch.

GoToAway
05-20-2005, 11:56 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by heywooood:
The campaigns that are to compliment the new maps Kurland and Murmansk - are to be on the CD ADDON with the planes...that will be a PAID ADDON CD

not included in the 4.0 patch. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I have no idea where you're getting that.

All I've ever seen him say is that he's working on a CD that will be like Battle Over Europe for Murmansk/Kurland. It will contain nothing but missions and skins.

JunkoIfurita
05-21-2005, 12:03 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">
Originally posted by Badsight:
maps , planes , AI change , FM change </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Where did you hear about changes to the AI? I haven't read about that in any official sources. AI planes will fly under the same flight model as us in 4.0, yes, but I have my doubts if they're actually planning to make many if any changes to the AI programming. That's definite BoB territory.

@Heywooood: Sure, Ian Boys is putting together an add-on out of the dynamic campaigns he created for his new Kurland & Murmansk maps. Why shouldn't he? He put in several years of work on these maps, which we're being given for free with the next patch. I picked up The Last Days and Code Blue, and enjoyed them (they only cost me $25 each!) - and I'll pick up Ian's add-on too, when it's released. I'm glad that Ian could be making some money out of his work - a lot of the modellers who have planes in the game didn't.

Think of it this way, Ian Boys is creating the first Mission Pack add-on for Sturmovik that includes TWO NEW MAPS. Except we're being provided those maps pro-rata through the official sources, Maddox Games. Sound more tempting?

Also, yes a lot of the planes have been pulled out, in lieu of another add-on (no saying whether it's a paid CD, it may be free, it may not be. We'll wait and see) - but I believe the Betty at least will be in there. Also possibly the Ki-100 and the Tempest.

Just going from the flyable plane lists in the latest DGen Beta here...

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Badsight.
05-21-2005, 12:09 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JunkoIfurita:
Where did you hear about changes to the AI? I haven't read about that in any official sources. AI planes will fly under the same flight model as us in 4.0, yes, but I have my doubts if they're actually planning to make many if any changes to the AI programming. That's definite BoB territory. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>you is wrong , be sure

& we already in the past got 2 new maps from the BoE makers free

Feathered_IV
05-21-2005, 12:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">AerialTarget posted Fri May 20 2005 21:33
I don't know who wins over ones, but the P-38 wins over Zeroes! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


You havent won me over. I'll keep flying the Zero http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

stansdds
05-21-2005, 07:07 AM
And I'll be flying the F4U-4. What's that? No, I did not bring enough of these funny little cigarettes for everyone! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

goshikisen
05-21-2005, 07:26 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by heywooood:
Ian Boys says the planes have been pulled out for later release on a CD ADDON - the patch 4.0 will have maps,sans campaigns and the new BoB FM beta.

The campaigns that are to compliment the new maps Kurland and Murmansk - are to be on the CD ADDON with the planes...that will be a PAID ADDON CD
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Heywoood... did Ian Boys say this recently? I had heard that his Murmansk & Kurland campaigns would be sold seperately but I can't recall anything said about removing planes from 4.0.

heywooood
05-21-2005, 01:18 PM
hmmm the thread and posts I saw last week are missing now...

If I recall what I saw correctly it was to the effect that a huge patch with everything on it would take way to too long to download - especially on 56k

also that since FM beta and maps were primarily for online users that those - and the flyable Betty - would be in the patch....

Campaigns for Kurland and Murmansk originally intended for the patch, along with one or two other flyables...would be pulled back and placed on a paid addon CD. That was how I read it.
Ian said something about funding ongoing updates and patches for FB/PF and I have no problem with that.

I hope someone official will clarify all of this before the release of 4.0 so that some people do not have expectations set too high to enjoy the devs. work.

ausmondo
05-21-2005, 04:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I hope someone official will clarify all of this before the release of 4.0 so that some people do not have expectations set too high to enjoy the devs. work. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


I agree with heywoood.
With v.4 so close to release it should not be too difficult for an 'Official' announcement.
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Aztek_Eagle
05-21-2005, 05:30 PM
a list of ppl who died while waiting is spected to

SeaFireLIV
05-21-2005, 06:00 PM
What I read on Simhq, spoken by Ian Boys was that the 2 maps would be released free for 4.0, but would NOT be utilising the DGEN Campaign engine. So useless for offline players, but not totally, as the maps could be used in the Full Mission Builder.

The DGEN Campaign would come as part of an Add-On CD enabling dynamic campaigns for the Kurland/Murmansk maps.

There was no mention of aircraft being withdrawn/solely used for the CD add-on.

Of course, it`s entirely possible that the offliners among us may get 4.0 and find we basically cannot use anything new (as in aircraft) in our existing offline campaigns until we fork out for the CD. I just don`t know. Guess we don`t have long to find out.

BanaBob
05-21-2005, 06:22 PM
More Complaints http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

SeaNorris
05-21-2005, 06:30 PM
A banner on the back of the TB-3:

Patch Whiners will go in two weeks http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

stansdds
05-21-2005, 07:29 PM
I'll reserve judgement until the patch materializes, until then everything is conjecture.

GoToAway
05-21-2005, 07:52 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by heywooood:
also that since FM beta and maps were primarily for online users that those - and the flyable Betty - would be in the patch....

Campaigns for Kurland and Murmansk originally intended for the patch, along with one or two other flyables...would be pulled back and placed on a paid addon CD. That was how I read it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Ian said that the Dgen campaigns were not being added in the patch because they were for offline users (or something to that effect. personally, I thought it was a weak explaination. There's nothing wrong with him just saying, "I put a lot of work into this. I'd like to see some compensation for it." That's perfectly fine.)

At no time did I EVER see him say anything about aircraft. Why would he? He doesn't work for Maddox Games. That's the entire reason that he wants to release a Battle Over Europe-esque campaign addon for Kurland/Murmansk--so he can get some compensation for his effort. If I'm not mistaken, he also made Normandy and the Ardennes map... And BoE was just a campaign addon for those maps as well.


I may be wrong, but I followed the threads on SimHQ pretty closely for a few days because I have been looking forward to Kurland since I saw it. At no time did I ever see Ian say a word about planes.

heywooood
05-21-2005, 10:18 PM
maybe not....but wouldn't it be best for 1c to clarify this thing.

Some people are expecting a 'mega' patch and
4.0 may not meet such vague expectations.

Maybe the Mods really are pure masochists... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

Gibbage1
05-22-2005, 02:49 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by heywooood:
maybe not....but wouldn't it be best for 1c to clarify this thing.

Some people are expecting a 'mega' patch and
4.0 may not meet such vague expectations.

Maybe the Mods really are pure masochists... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

For a patch thats been about 6 months in the making, it BETTER be "Mega".

Yambretta
05-22-2005, 04:12 AM
Talk on a flyable mozzie seems to have died, that was my interest in the patch http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

Lewicide
05-22-2005, 09:00 AM
Ok pulled it. No I'm not a B tester (It was just what was on the read-me and other sources) forget about it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

sapre
05-22-2005, 09:23 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Lewicide:
Spit Vc 2 cannon
Spit Vc 4 cannon
Betty
Lightning L
Mustang 3
Ki-100

flyables, thats all folks (even pulled Buffalow Mk1 pit) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Are you 1 of ther beta testers?
Aren't you not supposed to talk about this?

cow9th
05-22-2005, 11:42 AM
was waiting for the mossie myself aswell.
ah well they will soon be waving that carrot about again, and then not bothering to deliver it once more.

Hunter82
05-22-2005, 12:55 PM
FYI for those with questions concerning -paid add ons-

UBI owns the publishing rights in most countries so no planes or maps will be in paid add ons unless UBI sells them or 1C direct (very limited area outside UBI area).

The add ons generally will be enhanced campaigns,Dgen and mega skins.

Have to remember any hard coded items such as planes,maps,objects,etc have to be added by 1C into the SFS files so no outside companies will be creating AC or Maps.

Now Ian Boys has every right to create an add on for the massive work and detail in his project. I,for one, will support him on it.

Amagi
05-22-2005, 05:19 PM
Offline players don't have to wait for the FM patch to try DGen 4.0. A working DGen beta patch has been released, including some Dutch databases. Using the beta, I'm making a freeware Eastern Front campaign which should be ready soon after the FM patch is released. You can download both using the links in this thread, though the bandwidth is limited for the campaign download:

Disaster on the Frontiers (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/4031065903)

Courland won't be included in the finished version, but new aircraft and ground objects will be.

johann63
05-22-2005, 09:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
I'm hoping for ham.

I love ham. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


actually if the patch was in a basket with a small ham, some pears, couple good apples, some hard cheese, some jam and a small box of sweets, now that would be a good deal.

oh dont forget the bow

JG53Frankyboy
05-22-2005, 09:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sapre:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Lewicide:
Spit Vc 2 cannon
Spit Vc 4 cannon
Betty
Lightning L
Mustang 3
Ki-100

flyables, thats all folks (even pulled Buffalow Mk1 pit) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Are you 1 of ther beta testers?
Aren't you not supposed to talk about this? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

well, you can get this informations out of the leaked betas .
and with a correct one the Buffalo Mk.I/B-339E is also full flyable http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

BUT , this does NOT mean that there will be not more stuff in the release version of 4.0 ! betas are always WIP ! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif