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paulhager
01-29-2006, 12:09 AM
I started what was intended to be Murmansk 19. However, after my 100K effort on 18, coupled with the fact that the Luftwaffe is virtually nonexistent in 1944, I abandoned the artic patrol after a week or so and set course for my actual PZ: AM13. Along the way I encountered a C3 and Liberty ship together and sank both.

I spent the obligatory 24 hours in AM13 and then searched AL38-AL39. Weather went to 7 m/s, heavy rain and fog. While snorkeling I picked up the sounds of a warship on the hydrophone. I altered course to investigate. It quickly became clear I was dealing with several warships. I surfaced and made a high speed run to get closer to the enemy€s course. After several minutes the radar detector sounded and I submerged and went quiet.

One of the escorts was definitely headed my way so I began tracking it and readied a Wren. This was the point where I blundered. Instead of making a bearing shot and leaving the scene, I decided to see if sitting still would prevent the approaching escort from spotting me. This was not the same situation as in Murmansk 18, where I let an escort sail past at close range. Although visibility was equally bad, with only 7 m/s winds (versus 15), the escort was going to have a much easier time detecting my boat. And, unlike 18, I had almost certainly already been spotted before I submerged. The escort started turning directly for me. I made a bad angle Wren shot toward the sound of the escort and ordered ahead full. The escort €" a V&W €" appeared out of the fog coming right for me. The Wren had missed and the escort bore in, firing a pattern of Hedgehogs. These must have overshot the boat because I suffered no damage at that point. It was when the DD went right over my diesel engine room that I started taking damage.
http://i1.tinypic.com/mt17y0.jpg

It dropped a full pattern of depth charges but I was moving and they had no effect. As the DD circled, I fired my bow Wren in Tube IV and crash dived, while frantically trying to halt the flooding. As the V&W began its second attack run, one of the Wrens caught it.
http://i1.tinypic.com/mt1b7n.jpg

At 60 meters I released a decoy and slowed to 1/3. My crack repair teams finally got the flooding under control by the time I had reached 150 meters. I ordered all quiet and stopped. A ship sailed by overhead. The External Camera revealed it was a Bogue CVE.
http://i1.tinypic.com/mt1btc.jpg

Damage to the boat was severe €" the port diesel had been irreparably damaged. After the Task Force was out of range, I surfaced, completed repairs and returned to base. Final tally: 15K+.
http://i1.tinypic.com/mt1bvp.jpg

paulhager
01-29-2006, 12:09 AM
I started what was intended to be Murmansk 19. However, after my 100K effort on 18, coupled with the fact that the Luftwaffe is virtually nonexistent in 1944, I abandoned the artic patrol after a week or so and set course for my actual PZ: AM13. Along the way I encountered a C3 and Liberty ship together and sank both.

I spent the obligatory 24 hours in AM13 and then searched AL38-AL39. Weather went to 7 m/s, heavy rain and fog. While snorkeling I picked up the sounds of a warship on the hydrophone. I altered course to investigate. It quickly became clear I was dealing with several warships. I surfaced and made a high speed run to get closer to the enemy€s course. After several minutes the radar detector sounded and I submerged and went quiet.

One of the escorts was definitely headed my way so I began tracking it and readied a Wren. This was the point where I blundered. Instead of making a bearing shot and leaving the scene, I decided to see if sitting still would prevent the approaching escort from spotting me. This was not the same situation as in Murmansk 18, where I let an escort sail past at close range. Although visibility was equally bad, with only 7 m/s winds (versus 15), the escort was going to have a much easier time detecting my boat. And, unlike 18, I had almost certainly already been spotted before I submerged. The escort started turning directly for me. I made a bad angle Wren shot toward the sound of the escort and ordered ahead full. The escort €" a V&W €" appeared out of the fog coming right for me. The Wren had missed and the escort bore in, firing a pattern of Hedgehogs. These must have overshot the boat because I suffered no damage at that point. It was when the DD went right over my diesel engine room that I started taking damage.
http://i1.tinypic.com/mt17y0.jpg

It dropped a full pattern of depth charges but I was moving and they had no effect. As the DD circled, I fired my bow Wren in Tube IV and crash dived, while frantically trying to halt the flooding. As the V&W began its second attack run, one of the Wrens caught it.
http://i1.tinypic.com/mt1b7n.jpg

At 60 meters I released a decoy and slowed to 1/3. My crack repair teams finally got the flooding under control by the time I had reached 150 meters. I ordered all quiet and stopped. A ship sailed by overhead. The External Camera revealed it was a Bogue CVE.
http://i1.tinypic.com/mt1btc.jpg

Damage to the boat was severe €" the port diesel had been irreparably damaged. After the Task Force was out of range, I surfaced, completed repairs and returned to base. Final tally: 15K+.
http://i1.tinypic.com/mt1bvp.jpg

John_NAVY
01-29-2006, 12:48 AM
It's supriseing that with THAT much damage you still had NO hull integrity issues (show's 100%.)
One of those bad luck/good luck things.... was bad to get hit at all, but very lucky indeed to survive that.

Goose_Green
01-29-2006, 02:54 AM
Were you still able to keep going with only one engine? And did you continue your patrol or abort the patrol?

paulhager
01-29-2006, 06:35 AM
The short answer is, "yes" - you can keep going on one engine. It's rather like perpetually charging the battery. And, no, I didn't continue with the patrol.

As for the hull integrity, I think it's probably a bug. I can't imagine being rammed by a DD, which causes flooding in three compartments, not causing some damage to the pressure hull.

wessenhammer
01-29-2006, 07:20 AM
the flooding was caused by the head being used to such an inordinant degree under those extremely terrifying conditions the crew was exposed to, remove the toilet paper from the head to avoid a repeat of the situation or issue high rubber boots to avoid contamination.

Praetorian_Elite
01-29-2006, 10:40 AM
Kinda the same experience happened to me yesterday. But it wasn't by ship but by plane. I have a mod installed that increases plane damage and makes them tougher to shoot down so you are afraid of them like it should be and not stay surfaced but crash dive.

I was crusing along to intercept a task force coming from America to England. The US had just entered the war a few months ago and I was near the base they have up north. All of the sudden, my watch crew yells out that they spotted a plane, I go up to see where it is and see that it's too close to dive in time so I order the men to the flak guns. I go ahead flank and hard to port as the plane comes in. My flak guys are firing as much as they can as I watch the bombs come down.

One of them hits right on the front of the ship. I see a huge explosion as my watch crew and flak gunners are killed and massive flooding in the crew quarters and torpedo room. I go to periscope depth since my hull integrity is at 1%.

All my torpedo tubes were destroyed and lots of dead guys. I didn't want that so I just reloaded a save I had.

trident42
01-29-2006, 04:38 PM
Looks like you had a bit of drama, bet it was fun though http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif. Adds to the realism i think, being damaged like that and having to limp home.

paulhager
01-29-2006, 05:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by trident42:
Looks like you had a bit of drama, bet it was fun though http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif. Adds to the realism i think, being damaged like that and having to limp home. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

More like an attack of stupidity ...

If I'd been thinking there's a decent chance I'd have sunk a Bogue CVE instead of almost getting killed.

As was stated in THE RIGHT STUFF - and I paraphrase - "There are old captains and there are bold captains, but there are no old, bold captains." For "bold" read "stupid".