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XyZspineZyX
08-16-2007, 08:40 AM
Hi

What is generally the best gun convergence for the FW190A & D. I generally set mine to 250m, but I dont believe this is being effective for me. Also are there any guides out there on how to improve airborne gunnerry in the FW190

XyZspineZyX
08-16-2007, 08:40 AM
Hi

What is generally the best gun convergence for the FW190A & D. I generally set mine to 250m, but I dont believe this is being effective for me. Also are there any guides out there on how to improve airborne gunnerry in the FW190

Tailbutcher
08-16-2007, 08:53 AM
I set mine at 500 Meters for Machine guns and 500 meters for cannnons. Works really well.

Jaws2002
08-16-2007, 09:01 AM
I'm happy with 250m.

Spaturnio
08-16-2007, 09:03 AM
some very good FW pilots like Fatcat_99 suggest to set convergence at 500m: you get a wider spread close by but you have plenty of hitting power anyway.
you also can count on the fact that, by allowing the convegence further you have the bullets drop much less due to gravity, which is important since in a FW you need to take a lot of high deflection snapshot.

I'm currently trying to have them set a 350/400m: I rarely shot further then 200m and it seems to be enough to correct the usual ammo dropping.

When using the A9 with 30mm keep in mind that, your heavy hits are the less prone to hit since they get at the margin of the hitbox: keep these suggestions with salt grain ad find what best suits you.

shahram177
08-16-2007, 09:08 AM
I allways liked the 500/500 for all my planes.
Come in and sight with the small stuff and the kill with the big stuff!

Jaws2002
08-16-2007, 09:18 AM
I think 500m is great for headon or sniping that P-38 you just can't catch, but I shoot at around 200 most of the time and I want to have all my guns on target there.

crucislancer
08-16-2007, 09:31 AM
I've been experimenting with 250m for the FW190, and it's worked ok so far, except for bomber interdiction. I'd rather have them set to 500m for those. But, whatever works for ya. Just keep playing around with the ranges, and what feels comfortable.

karost
08-16-2007, 10:32 AM
ask your self for what max range that you
can shoot target down ?

if you like FW190D with two inner gun 20mm
stay very close to each other so convergences
will look very long narrow ... that is good
and is look more power full if you set machine gun same range. For me 350 meter is ok, coz I don't want to loss ammo for shooting the empty space when target stay longer then 250 meter.

while you shooting someone with speed over 400 km/h the convergence will look shorter then you had setting.

for FW190A(s) 4 x 20mm
cannon = 350 meter
machine gun = 350 meter

for FW190A8~9 2 x 30mm http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
cannon = 250 meter
machine gun = 350 meter

that is my favor setting

S!

rockgardenlove
08-16-2007, 06:42 PM
I go for 175 to 200 for most planes. At that point the lethality of the guns is pretty wicked. Watch out for all the debris that comes off!

VMF-214_HaVoK
08-16-2007, 06:59 PM
As with most planes Im happy at 200 meters for both. Convergence really is a personal preference thing.

S!

M_Gunz
08-16-2007, 07:14 PM
Just remember some ranges to aim low and when shooting on steep dive or climb as well.

RAF_OldBuzzard
08-16-2007, 11:39 PM
I've been trying something a bit different lately, and it seems to be working for me at least.

For any aircraft with 'centerline' mounted guns/cannons, like the P-38, Bf-110, Mossie. etc. I've been using 1000m for the convergence. Since the weapons are already close to each other, I don't want them to spread out any more than they already are. Seems to me that with this setting I have a good setting for all ranges, and not just one 'sweet spot'.

For wing mounted weapons, I use either 200 or 400. I use 200 if I know I'll be doing air-air against mostly fighters, and 400 if I'm going against bombers and/or air-ground.

carguy_
08-17-2007, 05:13 AM
220m very good compromise for me.Recently I think I found out that vertical elevation also applies to wing guns,at least on the FW190.The higher the cone I set, the lesst elevation I need to apply on a target.I often find myself applying too much of vertical deflection than needed.Now I can aim few mm over the target.

tagTaken2
08-17-2007, 05:23 AM
I go with 160m unless I know I'm going for ground attack when I spread it out to 250.

At 160, the only problem is not being hit by the debris from the exploding plane.

Ratsack
08-17-2007, 05:37 AM
These days I'm using 200 m for all guns on the Fw 190 A. I never take the MK108s, either.

However, there's two things you should know:

1. I'm an awful shot; and
2. I previously used 500 m on the Fw 190 A very successfully. There is nothing quite like it for executing B-25s head on. You get plenty of trigger time with four 20 mm cannon, too.

What tagTaken2 said about the debris is true, too.

cheers,
Ratsack

TgD Thunderbolt56
08-17-2007, 07:44 AM
350m and 400m. It is my default convergence for all aircraft and I've used it that way for several years now after fiddling incessantly with ALL ranges of convergence. Works especially well with FW's and P-47's though.

I do o.k. with it like that.


TB

T_O_A_D
08-17-2007, 09:23 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RAF_OldBuzzard:
I've been trying something a bit different lately, and it seems to be working for me at least.

For any aircraft with 'centerline' mounted guns/cannons, like the P-38, Bf-110, Mossie. etc. I've been using 1000m for the convergence. Since the weapons are already close to each other, I don't want them to spread out any more than they already are. Seems to me that with this setting I have a good setting for all ranges, and not just one 'sweet spot'.

For wing mounted weapons, I use either 200 or 400. I use 200 if I know I'll be doing air-air against mostly fighters, and 400 if I'm going against bombers and/or air-ground. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This is what I've done for years, short wing guns are at 183, = true 200 yards.

Unless I know before hand and am on a ground strafing mission, I'll move the wing guns on out to 300, just because 183 gets you too close to the ground and target when shooting at jeeps ans such.

ytareh
08-17-2007, 02:34 PM
Your convergence was effective on my A20 today in the JG2 Server!!!S!

ytareh
08-17-2007, 02:43 PM
BTW I wouldnt imagine convergence is as much an issue with 190 as most planes -except for the MG FFs in the outer wing (at least in your early A4 Krake)....You can shoot roughly to a maximum of twice your convergence if your guns are far off the centre line ie wing mounted.The inner wing guns on 190 are very near wing root so even with 200m convergence Id guess you could shoot out to 500m, allowing for shell/bullet drop, from 6 o clock.
Personally I have all convergence at 100m except for IL2 etc on ground attack.Almost essential for the 'weak' Italian (especially Macchis) and helps a lot for P47/RAF .303 mgs etc too....
Many would say this is way too short but when it works it REALLY works!
The game does model the decreasing damage of a slower bullet.They loose a lot of speed with distance esp mg...

VMF-214_HaVoK
08-17-2007, 03:22 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">At 160, the only problem is not being hit by the debris from the exploding plane. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Huge problem when you spend most your time going up against Zekes like I do. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

S!

Davinci..
08-17-2007, 04:47 PM
I use 200m for all guns, and that works well for me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I would probably recommend 250m
With the 190, you would usually go a little longer then normal, up to 300 should be good, as you end up taking more ranged shots(and because you are generally closing faster on your enemy, you dont want to collide). I personally like to get right in there before shoot. If you are a good enough shot, you can back it out to 400+. The problem with having too long a convergence in the 190, is that you dont get all that power of the guns, if you are in too close, and all those guns dont hit the same spot(which is a waste, and also why you should set canon and mg to the same)..