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Zeus-cat
11-17-2006, 04:07 PM
How many people here really play offline campaigns? I haven't gotten an email in months concerning the 5 campaigns I have released. The most reviews I have is 3 for any one of my campaigns at Mission4Today and 2 of those are from squadmates.

I'm asking as I have plans for the third part of my Straight Down SBD campaign, but the anemic response I get makes me wonder if I should bother. I might just turn the missions I have completed into coops for my squad.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

Zeus-cat

My Campaigns:
Straight Shot (9 missions in the Japanese Seaplane - A6M2-N "Rufe")
Straight Into an Icy Hell (14 missions for the Rufe in the Aleutians)
Straight Down (26 dive-bombing missions in a carrier-based SBD-3)
Straight Down Some More (19 more missions in a carrier-based SBD-3)
Straight and True (30 torpedo bomber missions in an IL-2T)

My campaign page at Miision4Today
http://mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&c=22

Zeus-cat
11-17-2006, 04:07 PM
How many people here really play offline campaigns? I haven't gotten an email in months concerning the 5 campaigns I have released. The most reviews I have is 3 for any one of my campaigns at Mission4Today and 2 of those are from squadmates.

I'm asking as I have plans for the third part of my Straight Down SBD campaign, but the anemic response I get makes me wonder if I should bother. I might just turn the missions I have completed into coops for my squad.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

Zeus-cat

My Campaigns:
Straight Shot (9 missions in the Japanese Seaplane - A6M2-N "Rufe")
Straight Into an Icy Hell (14 missions for the Rufe in the Aleutians)
Straight Down (26 dive-bombing missions in a carrier-based SBD-3)
Straight Down Some More (19 more missions in a carrier-based SBD-3)
Straight and True (30 torpedo bomber missions in an IL-2T)

My campaign page at Miision4Today
http://mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&c=22

general_kalle
11-17-2006, 04:13 PM
i started a bit late to check out offline campaings and yet i have only completed one( hurricats 9 missions)

but when my pc trubles are over i will start playing them.

i might download your campaings.

which one's best?<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Skycat_2
11-17-2006, 04:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by general_kalle:
which one's best? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Hanglands
11-17-2006, 04:19 PM
Hi,

Im turning away from online play, and these days pretty much only fly offline campaigns.

Ive completed Straight Down, and am about 1/3 of the way through Straight Down Some More. Im fairly sure I have already downloaded Straight And True, and that its waiting in my 'downloaded missions' folder for a future date.

I know that there are a shedload of people here whose words would carry far greater weight than mine with regards to comments on your work.
But I for one have enjoyed immensely what you have made, and think it would be a great shame, and a loss for many, if your efforts were limited to a restricted number of people in a squad.

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Chuck_Older
11-17-2006, 04:24 PM
Plenty of people do. I'm playing SCW and Two Little DUCs again, well I am when I get frutrated with my own campaign making http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

A secret revealed maybe- I make the stuff I make for me 99% of the time, others are a secondary concern really. Like WTCF "v2.0"- nobody- but nobody asked if I would do a re-make, I wanted a better campaign because I never really was happy with the original. But I'm doing a re-make, and it seems others might like it, so I'll release it. I have made one mission for somebody else that I would not have otherwise made for myself

I make my stuff because I find it fun and interesting. As long as though two criteria are met, I don't care bugger all who d/ls the campaign- although yes, feedback is nice to get. A lot of players don't do that.

You also might need to pimp your creations better I think. I shamelessly exploited WTCF here there and everywhere with basically an ad campaign about it, four full size screeenies as ads, and lots of text that would have made a used-car salesman embarrassed. You need to make the proper exploitation http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Zeus-cat
11-17-2006, 05:47 PM
I think I "pimp" my creations quite well Chuck. My squad helps a lot too. The number of downloads is more than adequate, but I question if people play the campaigns. I'll admit to downloading some of your stuff, but I have yet to play any. As you know, it takes a lot of work to create campaigns and I have plenty of other stuff to do.

I have asked repeatedly for feedback and yet get very little. I relealize that is a fact of life. However, if people truly aren't playing the campaigns, then I would rather create missions for my squad. An alternative would be to release the campaign to only those people who have given feedback. I wouldn't polish the campaign/missions so much in either of these cases and save a lot of annoying busy work.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

Zeus-cat

My Campaigns:
Straight Shot (9 missions in the Japanese Seaplane - A6M2-N "Rufe")
Straight Into an Icy Hell (14 missions for the Rufe in the Aleutians)
Straight Down (26 dive-bombing missions in a carrier-based SBD-3)
Straight Down Some More (19 more missions in a carrier-based SBD-3)
Straight and True (30 torpedo bomber missions in an IL-2T)

My campaign page at Miision4Today
http://mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&c=22

joeap
11-17-2006, 05:58 PM
Well I have played Straight Down and Straight Shot and both are top notch. Next on the list, the sequel to Straight Down and also off to Alaska.

Chuck_Older
11-17-2006, 06:21 PM
I shouldn't have replied.

Jungmann
11-17-2006, 06:35 PM
Zeus-Cat, I'm sure you speak for a lot of the best campaign/mission designers around in the sense of not getting a lot of feedback and attaboys for the work you do. I'm just one thank-you, but maybe you can see your way clear to regard me as speaking for a bunch of people as well, who love off line campaigns, who love to see the imagination and craft people put into them, to even get into the heads of the designers and see what aerial combat looks like to them. I only have time for offline, and I'm constantly lurking on the download sites for new campaigns I can grab. There actually haven't been many for a while--I hope that's not a trend.

S to you and those who do what you do.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Zeus-cat
11-17-2006, 07:00 PM
Chuck_Older siad <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I shouldn't have replied. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why? I thought your post was quite good. It made me think of a few other points I wanted to make. Besides, I essentially agree with you on making missions and campaigns. I enjoy doing it just for doing it, but without the feedback from users it is hard to get motivated to stuff for release.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

Zeus-cat

My Campaigns:
Straight Shot (9 missions in the Japanese Seaplane - A6M2-N "Rufe")
Straight Into an Icy Hell (14 missions for the Rufe in the Aleutians)
Straight Down (26 dive-bombing missions in a carrier-based SBD-3)
Straight Down Some More (19 more missions in a carrier-based SBD-3)
Straight and True (30 torpedo bomber missions in an IL-2T)

My campaign page at Miision4Today
http://mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&c=22

Chuck_Older
11-17-2006, 07:49 PM
It's not your fault Zeus-cat. The internet infuriates me, I basically hate it, but I like sharing ideas and so on much more than I hate the medium I despise, that allows me to share those ideas so easily.

Makabi-
11-17-2006, 08:36 PM
I'm a strict offline flyer as I've yet to find an online server that suits my playing style, and I play plenty of third=party offline campaigns. I just usually can't be bothered to share my opinion on said campaigns, and I imagine that's how many other people feel as well. don't be too put-off by the lack of feedback, some people are just lazy. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Zeus-cat
11-17-2006, 09:22 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I just usually can't be bothered to share my opinion on said campaigns, and I imagine that's how many other people feel as well. don't be too put-off by the lack of feedback, some people are just lazy. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

To which my response is I don't want to put another 150-200 (or more) hours of work into completing 47 more missions to finish off my SBD campaign trilogy when the vast majority of people feel like this.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

Zeus-cat

My Campaigns:
Straight Shot (9 missions in the Japanese Seaplane - A6M2-N "Rufe")
Straight Into an Icy Hell (14 missions for the Rufe in the Aleutians)
Straight Down (26 dive-bombing missions in a carrier-based SBD-3)
Straight Down Some More (19 more missions in a carrier-based SBD-3)
Straight and True (30 torpedo bomber missions in an IL-2T)

My campaign page at Miision4Today
http://mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&c=22

timholt
11-17-2006, 09:33 PM
To all off-line campaign builders: Personally I think you guys keep the interest up with your novel campaigns. I spend 90% of my time playing third party campaigns.
In fact I just finished Sulan's Guadacanal for the second time and have played others twice e.g. WTCF (and eagerly await its sequel).
W.r.t. yours Zeus-cat, I can't really get into Japanese planes but I have played and enjoyed your Straight into an Icy Hell and will probably play it again some time in the future.
Having played around in the FMB building single missions I appreciate just how much time and effort is expended on a campaign. But,like most of the population;
I don't have the imagination or patience to build a campaign, and
I download your campaigns and enjoy them immensely and rarely take the time to comment or thank you.
So, Thanks for your efforts and sharing your imaginaion with the rest of us Plebes, and I'm sure there are thousands of us out here.
Keep up the good work - please.

Scharnhorst1943
11-17-2006, 11:36 PM
I am another offliner only. You guys are what keep us going. I think the true fact is that most offliners get the download, and never return to coment or discuss it, because they are hardly, if ever online. It is not that they don't care, maybe that they don't know that they should respond with feedback. Or better yet, maybe they are too busy enjoying the campaign http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

b24srunt
11-18-2006, 12:58 AM
Zeus-Cat
Please keep it up! There are many of us out here who lurk on the forums, but (being the amateurs we are) don't say much, and rarely venture online (too hard to survive without TrackIR and foot pedals - well, good excuse anyway). The single player static campaigns are what keeps us in this game. All are good, and some are truely great. So, thanks, and keep it up!

heywooood
11-18-2006, 01:26 AM
either do it or don't - its up to you, but be careful what you wish for...

you want editorials or accolades?

The truth is - there are alot of very good, in fact great campaigns available now. I have d/l'd and flown alot of them...some are fun to tweak in the FMB and some are best left alone. The point is, there are a lot to choose from.

What do you want...applause?
If the work doesn't give you pleasure then don't do it.
If it does give you pleasure to make the campaigns but you will only share them if you can 'feel' appreciated for it - well - good luck.

This is the interweb and not everyone takes the time to respond one to one.

Mostly what I see is the occasional 'hats off' to the mission builders/campaign contributors threads...and in those threads I have seen your name mentioned positively. That might have to be ..."As Good As It Gets"


I am not a contributor to the community in that I don't make campaigns for general consumption so you can accept my response or discount it - its all entirely up to you, but I appreciate the efforts and the time it takes for those who do.
You can believe that wholeheartedly. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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knightflyte
11-18-2006, 01:49 AM
I think there's another aspect to consider.
I know I'm somewhat guilty of this...I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Some announcement of newly released campaign or mission will illicit a response and have me over NetWings or other D/L sites. I end up spending a few hours looking and D/Ling campaigns or single missions.

I then end up installing 3, 4, or 5 at once and playing a few missions of each.

I do understand where you're coming from Zues. It's a lot of effort to create a mission while trying to be historically acurate within the constraints of the game. I've attempted a few missions. I thought it was a good learning experience, but it's not something I'd relish doing.

All that effort without a strong feedback takes away from the desire to share your work.

I know a person does this for their own enjoyment, or SHOULD do it for their own enjoyment. But.... in an off beat way we are a community, and others opinions and enjoyment of our shared interest DOES carry a certain weight with us.

That feedback is important. It's usually not given.

I did try your Rufe campaign, Zues. It was when I was coming to terms with the difference in AI performance verses my own ability to fly well. (4.04 I think) The AI frustrated me, and I haven't gone back to it.

I'm a little better now.... or at least I don't let the AI bother me too much even when they kill steal http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif.

skarden
11-18-2006, 02:39 AM
I would say that i personly play about 60% online server's and 40% offline campaigns,it purely depends on my mood at the time.
But i do get a great amount of enjoyment from a good campaign so a big <span class="ev_code_BLUE">~S~</span> to all those of you that put the insane amount of time it takes to create a good campaign and as jungman said I'm willing to bet there are a LOT of other's who feel the same but dont post so often,so please oh please dont feel discouraged by a lack of response and stop doing what you do.

I havnt played any of your campaigns yet but i just dl'ed straight and true as i'v only just discovered i REALLY love torpedoing the hell out of anything that floats http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif so im gunna have a bit of fun with that tonight i think.

stick with it and thanks again for all your effort. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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jasonbirder
11-18-2006, 02:51 AM
I've played through Straight Shot and really enjoyed it...a great fun campaign...It was so good I basically sat down on a Saturday and played through till I finished it...
I definately intend to play through the sequel as soon as I get the time!
Its only the superb Offline Campaigns you guys create that keep me playing this game...so keep up the good work!

DmdSeeker
11-18-2006, 06:07 AM
I fly mostly offline and rely heavily on user made campaigns; as the stock dynamic game generator is so appalling.

An example: I recently reinstalled the game so it was "stock". I then had a wonderfull couple of hours on warclouds with my squad flying the P47. Filled with inspiration; when we logged off; I wanted to start up a P47 campaign to continue the fun; only to discover that in the "just installed" state the only P47 campaign IL-2 could offer was in the Pacific! Bollocks!

So I loaded up a user made one. And I'm still having fun with it; thanks to the guy that made it.

Now read the above again.

If Oleg felt the same as you do; and read the above; and became as discouraged as you seem to have become; the game would have stopped after the first patch.

Think; if Oleg relied on straight feedback he's have given up long ago. He relies on units moved, and nothing else. Just as you can only rely on downloads.

After all; if every one here suddenly merely posted "I flew every thing you made and loved it"; you've no way if of knowing if they're telling the truth or just keeping you happy.

joeap
11-19-2006, 07:11 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
I shouldn't have replied. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Something I said? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif I was giving my opinion of Zeus-Cat's campaigns. I know I've PMed you thanking you for WTCF which was a great campaign too.

Rammjaeger
11-20-2006, 07:48 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Zeus-cat:
How many people here really play offline campaigns? I haven't gotten an email in months concerning the 5 campaigns I have released. The most reviews I have is 3 for any one of my campaigns at Mission4Today and 2 of those are from squadmates.

I'm asking as I have plans for the third part of my Straight Down SBD campaign, but the anemic response I get makes me wonder if I should bother. I might just turn the missions I have completed into coops for my squad. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Playing offline campaigns is the only thing I do in this game and I'm probably not the only one. I've finished 11 so far - none of them your campaign though but that doesn't mean I won't give some of them a try later. I think many people appreciate good offline campaigns.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Low_Flyer_MkVb
11-20-2006, 04:52 PM
Straight Into an Icy Hell (14 missions for the Rufe in the Aleutians) is a great campaign which I enjoyed very much - I gave it a few plugs in the screenshots thread. Keep up the good work. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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VW-IceFire
11-20-2006, 05:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Zeus-cat:
How many people here really play offline campaigns? I haven't gotten an email in months concerning the 5 campaigns I have released. The most reviews I have is 3 for any one of my campaigns at Mission4Today and 2 of those are from squadmates.

I'm asking as I have plans for the third part of my Straight Down SBD campaign, but the anemic response I get makes me wonder if I should bother. I might just turn the missions I have completed into coops for my squad. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I rarely get any responses back from any of my campaigns. One or two every 6 months or so...and thats with...I can't remember...about 8 campaigns out there plus a 80 mission single mission pack. Most people don't give feedback...but they do download them in pretty decent numbers so I assume that folks are playing and pleased. I do hear from time to time that people appreciate the efforts and can't wait for the next one to come along so I would say that you should hearten up a bit because I think that most mission work done by the community is well liked and generally appreciated.

I would say...to all of you...if you play offline and play with these campaigns that the mission designers make...try and give feedback. It doesn't have to be an e-mail...the rating systems at Mission4Today and Flying Legends does nicely. If you put in some comments try and say what you liked and what you didn't like. We always want to do better http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Chuck_Older
11-20-2006, 05:24 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by joeap:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
I shouldn't have replied. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Something I said? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif I was giving my opinion of Zeus-Cat's campaigns. I know I've PMed you thanking you for WTCF which was a great campaign too. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

no no, nothing to do with you. I explained on page 1, to Zeus-cat http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

zbw_109
11-20-2006, 05:36 PM
Zeus-Cat I've played Straight shot, Icy Hell and the first 2 missions from straight down.

Also Stormclouds part one, that P-47 one and Legion Condor http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Flying_Mex
11-20-2006, 09:18 PM
I've got to be honest. I have not played offline too much. After picking up the game and learning the basics using mostly QMB, I moved on to multiplayer. I joined a squad, and have been enjoying myself immensely in it.
I grew pretty discouraged by the mission generator because there was no attachment. Even with the exelent DCG, flying alone would get me bored as I could not get attached to my pilot. It was simply read briefing, go shoot as many planes as I can, land.

However, I recently (thanks to a thread started) started to fly the Mig-3 campaign and I am enjoying it very much. What this means, is that after it (or after I get a little burn out with the planesets/missions), I will be looking into downloading some more offline, player-made campaigns.

I do feel bad that you and other makers have not gotten the feedback or appreciation that you are given. After all, making a mission (let alone a campaign) is no easy task. Even if the missions are bad (which from what I am hearing from here they are not) the work is appreciated. So thank you for your work everyone and do not get discouraged, people may not give feedback, but they do enjoy them. Build them and they will download http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

JamesBlonde888
11-20-2006, 09:26 PM
I play them.

On Finland at the moment. 60 ops completed.

I have finished the RAAF and one for Hungary as well.

Great fun. I cant wait to get into some custom stuff.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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-HH-Dubbo
11-20-2006, 11:10 PM
Yes ZC you should never stop. Ever.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Honeypot.se
11-21-2006, 10:19 AM
I'm not very representative of the typical forum poster but perhaps of the forum lurkers or even those who rarely come here, i.e. the vast majority(?). Here are my campaign habits:

Why I download a campaign:
-It features an aircraft that I'd like to learn or fly more (for online purposes or just for entertainment)
-The content description sounds promising (see below)

Why I play through a campaign:
-It puts this aircraft in a suitable context (altitude, mission types, theatre, most likely enemies etc).
-Good support for the AI. Without well thought out waypointing etc I'm going to struggle with the missions. That just isn't fun.
-Sufficient level of detail. As long as my hardware doesn't choke, I like a lifelike scenery.
-Solid "storyline". It doesn't have to be 100% historically accurate or anything, but there has to be a credible or compelling story that ties the missions together and makes me want to play "just one more sortie before bed".
-Compensation for the lack of dynamics. If the frontline moves it won't be because of me. So I need a sense of progression through some other means. It could be promotions, change of theater, or it could all just be tied into the (hopefully) captivating storyline.
(-And some more compensation. Please? The DGEN campaigns are really dull. But in static campaigns you can actually design the occasional cool events. You know, the situations you always wanted to experience in a WWII flightsim.)

If the above conditions are met, I WILL download and play through a campaign. Sooner or later. And I'm having a lot of fun and am grateful that someone took the time to entertain me. Whether I let the "author" know it or not. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif

Zeus-cat
11-21-2006, 09:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Yes ZC you should never stop. Ever. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What about you Dubbo? Didn't you give up for the same reason?<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

Zeus-cat

My Campaigns:
Straight Shot (9 missions in the Japanese Seaplane - A6M2-N "Rufe")
Straight Into an Icy Hell (14 missions for the Rufe in the Aleutians)
Straight Down (26 dive-bombing missions in a carrier-based SBD-3)
Straight Down Some More (19 more missions in a carrier-based SBD-3)
Straight and True (30 torpedo bomber missions in an IL-2T)

My campaign page at Miision4Today
http://mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&c=22

hotspace
11-21-2006, 09:42 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Zeus-cat:
How many people here really play offline campaigns? I haven't gotten an email in months concerning the 5 campaigns I have released. The most reviews I have is 3 for any one of my campaigns at Mission4Today and 2 of those are from squadmates.

I'm asking as I have plans for the third part of my Straight Down SBD campaign, but the anemic response I get makes me wonder if I should bother. I might just turn the missions I have completed into coops for my squad. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I get the same reponse to all of my campaigns m8, but for some strange reason I still carry on as at least in my mind I did something I thought was worth doing and even if I only get a few replies saying 'blah, blah' I guess it still nice even if only those people play it in my own mind.

Plus it adds to the great selection of campaigns that are out there which I really think would make this game much poorer if we didn't m8.

Keep going http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Get all my Single Player Campaigns from **here** (http://www.airwarfare.com/Sims/FB/fb_campaigns_hotspace.htm)

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-HH-Dubbo
11-22-2006, 12:10 AM
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What about you Dubbo? Didn't you give up for the same reason?[/QUOTE]

No. I have given up for now because I have run out of ideas and time.

I did lose heart for a long while because of the reasons you stated though.

In the end, thanks in no small part to the encouragement of my squad mates, I did finish "Bushpigs" and am glad I did. Having it sitting unfinished was akin to torture.

But look at "Filthy Few". I polished that as well as I could for release, even to the extent of making 3 pages of comic book for it and in the end, only the HHs played it as far as I can tell & most of that was testing.

But I'm still glad I finished it though....I had to.

Any missions I make from now on will probably be limited to co-ops that only the dogs will see. And that's fine.

Honestly, I find that SP missions and campaigns are far more difficult than co-ops to make anyway. As the only time I get to fly anymore is squad nights, co-ops make the most sense to me.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Click sig pic for my campaigns.

Kammo1974
11-22-2006, 12:31 AM
I play offline 40% and on-line 60%. I have played a whole lot of third-party campaigns and think that it's great people are willing to have the effort do them. You people are keeping this game alive.
I know it's very important to give feedback so you can be confident with what you are doing and also improve your campaigns (I never had given feedback http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif). The thing is just it needs the little extra effort to analyse of what you have just played and start to write about it... hope some day I find time for that.
I do appreciate of what you guys are doing and really have enjoyed playing your missions Zeus-Cat, VW IceFire, -HH-Dubbo, Gaston, BirdBrain... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif can't remember all of the names . Big up!

-HH-Dubbo
11-22-2006, 12:49 AM
I'm just terrible for giving feedback myself so I know how to relate. I mean you play the missions and when it is over, you mean to send some feedback but you put it off and then you start playing someone else's campaign and forget. It's not even that I'm lazy...I just get distracted and sidetracked easily.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

http://www.angelfire.com/falcon/nightschpanker/CABPtag40.jpg (http://mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&c=11)

Click sig pic for my campaigns.

Genie-
11-22-2006, 01:30 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by knightflyte:
I did try your Rufe campaign, Zues. It was when I was coming to terms with the difference in AI performance verses my own ability to fly well. (4.04 I think) The AI frustrated me, and I haven't gone back to it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Same here...

For me I had it enough when I was playing Malta compaign where CR42 had killed me while I was in Hurricane and CR42 managed to be faster than me in a shallow long dive and sniper killed me from 500 m while we were diving with 550km/h.. and after that he made a fantastic zoom climb like there are no G forces at all...

Then I quit playing offline campaigns...<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Treetop64
11-22-2006, 01:50 AM
Exclusively an offliner here. Most of the time I use Stag and DCG, but sometimes I also use DGen campaigns, as well as some of the excellent user-made campaigns.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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"It breaks my heart, but I am almost certain that raaaid will get the Nobel Prize in physics before we get the Avenger in PF."
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Blueboy777uk
11-23-2006, 04:44 AM
Hey Zeus-cat,
I love playing offline campaigns, I thought that your "Straight and True" was wicked - fully enjoyed it - it was nice to fly a more "unusual" campaign.

Currently on mission 40 of Murmansk to Morroco Me-110 campaign and it rocks.

I don't have a lot of time myself to develop campaigns, but I am toying with a Korea-themed one. I have put some notes and storyline together along with a list of suggested aircraft and look-a-like skins - anyone wanna see?

Keep up the good work!<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

lueoy
?Rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.?

FoolTrottel
11-24-2006, 02:13 PM
Zeus-Cat,

Like Blueboy stated: 'Wicked'
Just spent about 90 minutes on that one mission where one needs to sink a Ferry.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Sure, I did mess it up a few times, like gettin' in a bit too low, really hitting the ship before the torpedo does http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif and some other misshaps... (Including hitting that Windows key that brings one back to desktop...)

Meant to say: I'm still busy with 'Straight and True' completing a mission every now and then.
Same with 'Straight down some more'...

Those are all challenging missions, and fun to play.

So, if you yerself have any fun in creating stuff like this, just keep doing on it.
Even if you do not get many responses, keep it up.
Lots of ppl have lots of fun with it....

Thank you! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Oh, nd BUMP!<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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(Multicontrollered pIL2ots in need of tuning sensitivity settings:IL2-Sticks (http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=332)
might come in handy, IL2 Joy Control (By Oleg_BS) (http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=1021) can even be more usefull!)