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TheGozr
06-11-2004, 02:22 AM
What do you think of them?
i heard some should be banned?

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TheGozr
06-11-2004, 02:22 AM
What do you think of them?
i heard some should be banned?

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RK_HH-Mainframe
06-11-2004, 02:40 AM
Typical masterpiece of japanese tankbuilding http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif
No realy they can take loads of .50 calls and just fly on like nothing happened.
But banning them? no, at least not for me. I don't like them but why ban what you can't shoot down? Take them into a dive and they will break up..

310th Falcon
06-11-2004, 02:52 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> No really they can take loads of .50 cals. and just fly on like nothing happened.
But banning them? no, at least not for me. I don't like them but why ban what you can't shoot down? Take them into a dive and they will break up.. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I will agree with you it is a very tough aircraft.

However they can be shot down very easily and even with the ole' 50 cal. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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06-11-2004, 02:55 AM
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[This message was edited by TheGozr on Fri June 11 2004 at 09:16 AM.]

[This message was edited by TheGozr on Fri June 11 2004 at 09:16 AM.]

ASM 1
06-11-2004, 04:20 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TheGozr:
What do you think of them?
i heard some should be banned?

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I hope you're not trolling.... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif the uberness of Ki's has been done to death - do a search, if you genuinely want an opinion - some of it is quite an entertaining 'read' http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/784.gif

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Maple_Tiger
06-11-2004, 04:35 AM
I'm not going to comment on uberness, after all, it was a very good aircraft.

I do find that the KI-84c takes about twise as much damage then the KI-84a. This is online though and not very noticable offline. I think this is kind of weird. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif

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xrvjorn
06-11-2004, 05:11 AM
Is this historically correct? I've heard (on Discovery) that the jap fighters were very manouverable but badly armoured and thus vulnerable.

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WUAF_Badsight
06-11-2004, 05:15 AM
the KI is very hard to bust apart

but its eaisly hurt

as for making one go boom ....... well only the P-63 seems stronger

but the P-63 can fly fine even with multiple Mk108s in it

the KI on the other hand looses masses of speed & its turning with wing hits

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VW-IceFire
06-11-2004, 06:57 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by xrvjorn:
Is this historically correct? I've heard (on Discovery) that the jap fighters were very manouverable but badly armoured and thus vulnerable.

cul8r
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<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
That is true in a general sense but only broadly so. The Ki-84 was amongst a small number of Japanese fighters that had some level of armor protection, stronger construction overall, pilot protection, and less vulnerable fuel tanks.

Most servers enable the Ia and Ib which seems fine to me. The Ic was a more specialized bomber interceptor. I hope they kind of tighten up the FM a bit because it just seems a little too responsive but its still damaged and shot down like anything else.

My little hint is to shoot for the wing root and light the fuel tank on fire.

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KGr.HH-Sunburst
06-11-2004, 07:00 AM
i agree with Badsight here.
banning no ,with the current P51 its easy to take it down

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RAAF_Edin
06-11-2004, 07:31 AM
I find that Ki-84 to be the toughest aircraft to beat. It's very fast, climbs like hell, dives extremely good, accelerates, rolls, turns and man... the weapons have seriously deadly punch.

Too good to be true because it also is extremely tough to down.

I agree that if the Japs had them then so they should have them to fly, but in limited quantity, and things like ****ty fuel they had should be modeled, and most definitely they were not as tough to down as they are now here.

Oleg needs to do lot more FM/DM tweaking... will he ever?

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Tully__
06-11-2004, 09:28 AM
Whether or not to ban them depends entirely on the type of experience intended by the host. Quake style server, leave 'em in. Historical planes set server set in the period they really flew, leave 'em in. Servers set in other theatres, other time periods or aiming at a specific balance that would be upset by these planes, leave 'em out.

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VS-UK_SPaM
06-11-2004, 09:57 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by xrvjorn:
Is this historically correct? I've heard (on Discovery) that the jap fighters were very manouverable but badly armoured and thus vulnerable.

cul8r
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<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thats very true.

If you play Battlefield 1942 you will find that the Japanese planes are the fastest planes in the game but they cannot take many hits.

TheGozr
06-11-2004, 10:15 AM
KI-84.. gone.

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crazyivan1970
06-11-2004, 10:42 AM
Under FR settings all planes are pretty much equal, it`s the pilots that you have to watch out for http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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xrvjorn
06-11-2004, 12:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VS-UK_SPaM:
If you play Battlefield 1942 you will find that the Japanese planes are the fastest planes in the game but they cannot take many hits.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Does BF1942 has any sim features in it? Tried it once, but it felt like arcade stuff to me. The tank modelling in BF is definitely arcade and thus just awful.

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CV8_Dudeness
06-11-2004, 02:50 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TheGozr:
KI-84.. gone.

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so are you going to leave out the P-63 ?

so are you going to leave out the Spitfire mk9 ?

so are you going to leave out the P-51 D mustangs ?

so are you going to leave out the LA-7 as well ?

because what the KI complainers dont also talk about is that these allied A/C are more overmoddeled that the KI is right now