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JohnClabo
03-02-2007, 03:19 PM
Hey guys, I was asked by one of you to tell you guys what I thought of IL2:1946 once I had played it a bit. Being a vet of the old CFS/CFS2 Pacific games, I was really missing the flight/dogfight kind of games. I had moved from dogfights to FPS games like rainbow six and America's army, so I had almost forgotten how to fly...

Luckily, I found my wings again and I want thank those of you who have helped me find those wings, and those of you who continue to help me out while I figure out the minor details of Il2:1946.

So here's my take on the game. It's extremely hard, and the learning curve is very big...but I love games like that. I want complete realism! hehe

Everything about the game is complicated at first, but once you map out the controls and find the best tactics for each aircraft, it gets much easier.

Dogfights are intense, realistic and long. You cant fire off 30,000 rounds like you can in those console flight games...and I love that. At first, when I would BARELY touch my joystick, I'd go flipping around a few times. I found that I could configure my joystick to become less sensative, and once I did that..it was all perfect.

I simply adore this game though and I really want to thank those of you who helped me get this vs forgotten battles. The only complaint I have is that the teammate AI is a bit off. Other than that, the realism mixed with wonderful graphics makes this game just perfect. I really feel like I've found my wings again, and I really love that.

Thanks again to everyone who has helped me and to those of you who continue to lend me a helping hand here and there.

Take care, and I'll see you in the skies! If you see a LoneN00b, thats me. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


~Lone out

JohnClabo
03-02-2007, 03:19 PM
Hey guys, I was asked by one of you to tell you guys what I thought of IL2:1946 once I had played it a bit. Being a vet of the old CFS/CFS2 Pacific games, I was really missing the flight/dogfight kind of games. I had moved from dogfights to FPS games like rainbow six and America's army, so I had almost forgotten how to fly...

Luckily, I found my wings again and I want thank those of you who have helped me find those wings, and those of you who continue to help me out while I figure out the minor details of Il2:1946.

So here's my take on the game. It's extremely hard, and the learning curve is very big...but I love games like that. I want complete realism! hehe

Everything about the game is complicated at first, but once you map out the controls and find the best tactics for each aircraft, it gets much easier.

Dogfights are intense, realistic and long. You cant fire off 30,000 rounds like you can in those console flight games...and I love that. At first, when I would BARELY touch my joystick, I'd go flipping around a few times. I found that I could configure my joystick to become less sensative, and once I did that..it was all perfect.

I simply adore this game though and I really want to thank those of you who helped me get this vs forgotten battles. The only complaint I have is that the teammate AI is a bit off. Other than that, the realism mixed with wonderful graphics makes this game just perfect. I really feel like I've found my wings again, and I really love that.

Thanks again to everyone who has helped me and to those of you who continue to lend me a helping hand here and there.

Take care, and I'll see you in the skies! If you see a LoneN00b, thats me. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


~Lone out

VW-IceFire
03-02-2007, 03:42 PM
Glad you like it. We don't often get new people who introduce themselves with the kind of interest and background you have. Sometimes it takes a bit of convincing because they like the real WWII aspect but aren't always sure about the flying.

I think you'll find IL-2 1946 is a great package. With the 200 someodd planes that are flyable...you won't run out of new planes to discover for a while http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Monty_Thrud
03-02-2007, 04:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> The only complaint I have is that the teammate AI is a bit off </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Couldn't agree more, its the best Sim to date.

The AI is struggling at the moment, the pic below shows it...the mission i made was on Murmansk, 8 He111 escorted by 4 Bf109 and 4 Fw190 that cover the He111...mission- to sink supply ships off the coast.

...4 La5 and 4 P39s attack...

as you can see 8 Fw190 & Bf109s chase 1 enemy A/C, while the rest decimate the He111...and no amount of screaming and shouting gets any help http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

http://premium1.uploadit.org/bsamania//IL2M_Hell.jpg

But still, i've had this Sim on my HD since 2001 and the disc owns my E drive.

IL2 was reknowned for its excellent AI, very much praised by PC Gamer, it has suffered in the past few patches. Heres hoping. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

JohnClabo
03-02-2007, 11:34 PM
hehe here's an update...I dont know if its just my rookieness showing, but I couldn't get a break in the p51. I've been practicing a lot, trying to find the plane to fly on multiplayer when I do go on there, and I simply cant seem to get anywhere in the mustang.

After getting shot up over and over again, I took a spitfire out and managed to down 4 out of 7 bf109's...those cannons help a lot. The added cannon really seemed to make a difference...but again, Im the rookie hehe.

knightflyte
03-02-2007, 11:43 PM
Record a couple of your QMBs. Watch them and notice the distance you tend to fire and then see where the bullits converge. Set your gun convergence according to the distance you are from the enemy craft. By default IL2 sets them at 500 meters.

I have a tendency to fire at very close range so 100 to 150 meteres is where I set gun convergence.

Others might naterually shoot at 250 meters and converge accordingly.

Convergence will help get the most out of your armament.


If you're flopping around like a fish in the Mustang (I find it more difficult to 'balance' than a 109 for eg.) set your control inputs even finer.

You MAY need several sets of joystick sensativities, depending on the planeset you fly.

If you don't have it yet get IL2 Joy Stick Control. Mission4Today has it for down load. This is a great tool for setting up stick sensativities....even for multiple craft.

Have FUN!

JohnClabo
03-03-2007, 12:12 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by knightflyte:
Record a couple of your QMBs. Watch them and notice the distance you tend to fire and then see where the bullits converge. Set your gun convergence according to the distance you are from the enemy craft. By default IL2 sets them at 500 meters.

I have a tendency to fire at very close range so 100 to 150 meteres is where I set gun convergence.

Others might naterually shoot at 250 meters and converge accordingly.

Convergence will help get the most out of your armament.


If you're flopping around like a fish in the Mustang (I find it more difficult to 'balance' than a 109 for eg.) set your control inputs even finer.

You MAY need several sets of joystick sensativities, depending on the planeset you fly.

If you don't have it yet get IL2 Joy Stick Control. Mission4Today has it for down load. This is a great tool for setting up stick sensativities....even for multiple craft.

Have FUN! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks! If anyone would like to add me to MSN to further discuss things, or to give me even more pointers *which I would equally appreciate* feel free to added me at John at GamerNode.com *Replace the at with a @ obviously*

Thanks!

WWMaxGunz
03-03-2007, 02:03 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JohnClabo:
Luckily, I found my wings again and I want thank those of you who have helped me find those wings, and those of you who continue to help me out while I figure out the minor details of Il2:1946. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

A lot of those 'minor' details make the difference between adequate flying and good piloting.

*Have you worked out trim usage?
*Do you keep the ball (or in Spitfire, the Slip needle) centered or near center by using rudder?
*In fact, do you keep the wings level by using rudder especially when slow?
*How well have you worked out the Complex Engine Management as that takes time to do more than
put the throttle all the way up and prop speed all the way up? And don't forget fuel mixture
and supercharger staging in planes that require manual change.
*Do you set and shoot at or near convergence range, again keeping the ball centered? That's
for your guns accuracy btw.
*Do you deflection shoot to get around rear armor?
*Do you keep your speed up and test fly to find what speeds (indicated, speedbar or guage) you
need to turn just how hard in which planes?

That's not all I am sure but those are performance and shooting biggies.

CFS experience counts but some things have to be unlearned. Your vacation from that may have
helped though!