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lurkness
10-03-2007, 04:21 PM
http://thinkorthwim.com/2007/08/19/1034

lurkness
10-03-2007, 04:21 PM
http://thinkorthwim.com/2007/08/19/1034

VF-17_Jolly
10-03-2007, 04:27 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

xTHRUDx
10-03-2007, 06:41 PM
this may be a better example
http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/USA-WH-Guard/img/USA-WH-Guard-p90b.jpg

Esel1964
10-03-2007, 08:51 PM
Both links are very cool! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Choctaw111
10-03-2007, 08:55 PM
I read about that quite some time ago. That was a VERY clever idea.

ploughman
10-04-2007, 05:22 AM
That really is very convincing. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

A big wow!

K_Freddie
10-04-2007, 05:40 AM
Looks amazingly good.
I remember that video on how they discovered the V1 lauch pads... Can't rmember the WAAF's name but she noticed a small a/c on a 'railway track' in the middle of a forest.

Odd things like this give away the best camoflage.
Like where are all these thousands of people/cars going (shift change)..in the middle of suburbia http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

These tracks suddenly dissapear ??.. this warrants further observation/recon.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

cawimmer430
10-04-2007, 05:54 AM
Or you can come to my place: Mühldorf.

There was an ongoing project in the Mühldorfer Hart (forest) of building a secret and bomb-proof aircraft bunker to produce the Messerschmitt Me-262 jet fighter. So the Allies had an interest in this area. Problem was they couldn't really find the bunker from the air (it was so well camaflouged as well as the use of deception construction sites in the surrounding area). After the war the Americans used 120 tons of TNT to blow up this bunker. Parts of it are still standing. Here are pictures I took recently.

The bunker was never fully completed. The only surviving arch is arch 7 out of a planned 12. The distance from the inner bunker roof to the ground was 32 meters (less now due to dirt and gravel). I know a lot about this structure because I translated the book from German to English for my town's historical society!

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3542/bunker01az7.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/962/bunker02os8.jpg

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3929/bunker03aa7.jpg

Collapsed arch # 5
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/7298/bunker04rk3.jpg

On the roof of arch # 7
http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/5690/bunker07qe1.jpg

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/5476/bunker05ar8.jpg

The roof was 3 meters thick and heavily reinforced with steel to make it bomb proof.
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/5253/bunker06sq1.jpg


Notice how the trees in the middle are at a lower elevation than the trees in the far background? The trees in the middle all grew on the ruins of the collapsed arches 1-6. The trees on a higher elevation in the far background all grow on normal soil. It should give you an idea of how large this bunker was: and keep in mind that only arches 1-7 were completed (out of a planned 12).
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/2238/bunker08ez6.jpg

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TgD Thunderbolt56
10-04-2007, 07:16 AM
Nice links guys. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

cawimmer430, I was completely unaware of that historical aspect. Thanks for the nice pics.


TB

LEBillfish
10-04-2007, 07:26 AM
Look around some guys, even on this forum have been posted a few threads on this.

Another aspect that is interesting is how portions of cities were altered to throw off pilots navigation. Sometimes to make you think you're there, the real target 30 miles on, or to simply hide obvious landmarks that were being used by the enemy.

sgt.dumpster
10-04-2007, 10:02 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gifSEE WHAT CHEECH AND CHONG STARTED!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

cawimmer430
10-05-2007, 07:20 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TgD Thunderbolt56:
Nice links guys. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

cawimmer430, I was completely unaware of that historical aspect. Thanks for the nice pics.


TB </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Anytime. Here's my translation of the book about the bunker. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://www.kz-gedenk-mdf.de/mueller_book.htm

I told them it was a rough draft and they still posted it online! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

TgD Thunderbolt56
10-05-2007, 08:36 AM
VERY interesting read. I read most of it, but bookmarked it for more thorough perusal at a later date. Thanks again.