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airjunkie
07-11-2006, 11:10 AM
I wish Other Companies would make thier joystick handles more like the old sidwinder type. Most now are two bulky and are uncomfortable. The basic shape of the Sidewinder joystick handle is what feels right to me. Anybody Know where I can puchase the old "sindewinder" type joystick. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

airjunkie
07-11-2006, 11:10 AM
I wish Other Companies would make thier joystick handles more like the old sidwinder type. Most now are two bulky and are uncomfortable. The basic shape of the Sidewinder joystick handle is what feels right to me. Anybody Know where I can puchase the old "sindewinder" type joystick. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

Capt.LoneRanger
07-11-2006, 11:18 AM
ebay?

Personally I don't like the toy-stick. I prefer the CH-Fighterstick or even the Cougar.

horseback
07-11-2006, 01:35 PM
While I love my CH Combatstick, I think that from an ergonomic point of view that the Logitech Freedom joysticks had the nicest handles-it's a shame that their operational quality never seemed to match their design.

cheers

horseback

Lucius_Esox
07-11-2006, 01:44 PM
Yep ebay, expect to pay through the nose though.

I'm with you on this one as compared to my X52 that is.

Had it nearly a year now and for me it doesn't feel as good at dogfighting, personel thing of course..

carguy_
07-11-2006, 02:53 PM
If you have trouble finding MSFFB look for Thrustmaster sticks.Similar classic and comfortable handle.

Gold_Monkey
07-11-2006, 03:36 PM
http://search.ebay.com/Microsoft-force-feedback-2-joystick_W0QQfromZR40

TeufelHund84
07-11-2006, 07:16 PM
I really gotta ask...what is so great about those CH sticks? They look pretty sleek (F-15 replica right?) but there are hardly any buttons to bind functions to, so are you CH users stuck hovering over the keyboard the whole time? Just wondering.

horseback
07-11-2006, 08:50 PM
CH sticks come in two main flavors for combat flight simmers: the Fighterstick, with something like 16 buttons, and the Combatstick (which I have used about 3 years now)which has 10. Add an 8-way POV hat for each.

Adding the Pro Throttle allows you to add 16 more buttons, with the mode-shifting software enabling you to triple your total.

I have recently added a Throttle quadrant to my Combatstick, Pro Throttle, and Pro Pedals, and my 'base' profile in the CH Control Manager for Il-2 FB/AEP/PF now has 12 axes and 46+ buttons available for assignment (with TrackIR, I can use 4 buttons on each of the POV hats). My keyboard gets a little dusty at times, 'cause I rarely touch it.

Your mileage may vary.

cheers

horseback

TgD Thunderbolt56
07-12-2006, 06:24 AM
All these posts are fine and dandy....if you're right-handed.

x6BL_Brando
07-12-2006, 06:51 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif S! How's <snomfh>'s LH handle project getting on?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v458/brando6BL/Lefty.jpg

The fighterstick has three modes selectable in flight, and gives a total of 132 key-combo commands. There is also a scripting facility which enables multiple functions from a single keypress. I'm just scratching the surface of what the CH software will do.

The stick is strong enough to withstand radical modding. Here's my LH adapted Fighterstick
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v458/brando6BL/Brandos_Rig_1.jpg

I'd have to agree that the slimmer stick (I've sawn the turret switch off) is more comfortable - but the balanced springing is so relaxed that it really doesn't matter. It ain't necessary to have a tight grip on it to fly smoothly.

B.

Lucius_Esox
07-12-2006, 07:11 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I really gotta ask...what is so great about those CH sticks? They look pretty sleek (F-15 replica right?) but there are hardly any buttons to bind functions to, so are you CH users stuck hovering over the keyboard the whole time? Just wondering </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you tried one next to say mine (X52) you wouldn't have to be told, you would feel it instantly, they track very accurately and smoothly, they feel right.

I'm not knocking the X52 btw, great value for money but compared to my old FF2 and both my old CH's it is not as good at dogfighting imho.

The build quality in CH sticks is awesome as well. I haven't tried other "quality" sticks so I can't really comment.

JG52Uther
07-12-2006, 07:23 AM
I would like a stick that actually looks like it belongs in a 1940's fighter,rather than the jet inspired stuff we have now http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Swivet
07-12-2006, 12:45 PM
I know what you mean, i bought two M$ Pre Pro j-sticks on ebay, and trust me ,you will not pay thru the nose on ebay...That's why it exists for the most part. Dunno what kind your looking for but i found these http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&satit...ecision+pro+joystick (http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=precision+pro+joystick)

I am still using the Precision Pro to this day and always have used them since 97'

FritzGryphon
07-12-2006, 02:25 PM
I really like the feel and the button layout of the Wingman 3D. Small, and forms to a real human beings hand. Buttons all in reach too, unlike a X45 where most are inaccessible unless you lift your palm. And you can lock the twist too, so it doesn't mess you up like the other twisty sticks.

If only it was all-metal with magnetic potentiometers, and lasted for more than a month.

Bbeggar
07-12-2006, 02:31 PM
Try the Saitek Cyborg Evo. not only is it well-built and sturdy, it's customizable and comes with software that can customize controls beyond what the game will provide.

Dance
07-12-2006, 02:42 PM
I'll keep my original SW FF till I die, even without force in XP, still feels like when I said to the RAF instructor 'I Have Control' in a Chipmunk back in '79 lol.

ATC, happy days http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

rnzoli
07-12-2006, 05:07 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FritzGryphon:
I really like the feel and the button layout of the Wingman 3D. Small, and forms to a real human beings hand. Buttons all in reach too, unlike a X45 where most are inaccessible unless you lift your palm. And you can lock the twist too, so it doesn't mess you up like the other twisty sticks.

If only it was all-metal with magnetic potentiometers, and lasted for more than a month. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
How true, many people confirm this, not just me. Seems that they had X amount of money, and spent all of it on external design.

Then some garbage was put inside which probably cost almost nothing. Also worth of nothing.

But I kept the handle! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
http://web.axelero.hu/rnzoli/JoyBuild/Thumbs/6-Stick-alone.JPG