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JadehawkII
03-21-2007, 10:36 PM
Hey all!
Frequent this modeling site and came across this wierd contraption.

Link here:
http://www.hyperscale.com/features/belyayev32fm_1.htm

This is the first time I ever heard or seen such a thing.
If that article is true, then this thing not only was flyable, but nearly missed being put into production!? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

I wonder what it would have been like if they used the same engines in the La-5 series? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Comments? Thoughts? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

JadehawkII
03-21-2007, 10:36 PM
Hey all!
Frequent this modeling site and came across this wierd contraption.

Link here:
http://www.hyperscale.com/features/belyayev32fm_1.htm

This is the first time I ever heard or seen such a thing.
If that article is true, then this thing not only was flyable, but nearly missed being put into production!? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

I wonder what it would have been like if they used the same engines in the La-5 series? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Comments? Thoughts? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

TAW_Oilburner
03-22-2007, 05:05 AM
That would be a pretty neat edition. Nice find, never heard of anything like that.

RxMan
03-22-2007, 05:55 AM
definitely overmodeled

Philipscdrw
03-22-2007, 06:11 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RxMan:
definitely overmodeled </div></BLOCKQUOTE>It can't be overmodelled if there's only two or three models of it existing anywhere in the world... A lot more people must model it before it becomes overmodelled!

Phew - 6000kg of bombs? Or does "2,252lb" mean two 252lb bombs?

Flying wings are generally awesome.

XyZspineZyX
03-22-2007, 10:20 AM
he means literally that it was much effort to make that scale model

flox
03-22-2007, 10:24 AM
As a kid, I remember thinking that I could name every aircraft of the war-- the list consisted of about 20 different American, British, German, and Japanese aircraft. Seems funny to think about now. And even after all my years of WWII aviation fandom, I find that there are still aircraft such as this one that I have never heard of. Kind of nice to know that there is still "undiscovered" territory. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

AVG_WarHawk
03-22-2007, 10:51 AM
It looks like the result of a joint venture between Mitsubishi and Heinkel engineers.

JadehawkII
03-22-2007, 06:55 PM
The more I look at it, the more I wish we had this aircraft! Just looks like it would have had the same capabilities if not as fast as the Do-335 series.
I'm gonna try to look up this thing and see what else I can dig up. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

BillyTheKid_22
03-22-2007, 07:06 PM
Wow!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

JadehawkII
03-22-2007, 07:09 PM
Link to info about the Beast:

http://www.ctrl-c.liu.se/misc/ram/db-lk.html

That's all I could come up with. However, the book called Soviet X-Planes appears to have the best info and some pics on this.

R_Target
03-22-2007, 08:50 PM
Buddy System. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

mbfRoy
03-22-2007, 09:36 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Philipscdrw:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RxMan:
definitely overmodeled </div></BLOCKQUOTE>It can't be overmodelled if there's only two or three models of it existing anywhere in the world... A lot more people must model it before it becomes overmodelled!

Phew - 6000kg of bombs? Or does "2,252lb" mean two 252lb bombs?

Flying wings are generally awesome. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

6 bays x 2,205lbs = 13,230lbs
The way I read it, it sounds as if it could carry exactly 6000kg as you are saying which is not bad at all!

ImpStarDuece
03-22-2007, 09:56 PM
From the info I have a 6000kg bombload is not likely.

Just because each of the six bays is physically capable of carrying a 1000 kg bomb, doesn't mean that the aircraft can carry 6000 kg. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

The difference between empty weight and MTOW seems to only be 4,500 kg. Given that fuel, ammunition, oil, oxygen and other perishables would take up a large proportion of this, then the bombload would be significantly less than this.

With only 950 hp per engine and a 6000kg airframe, I'd say that around 1000-2000 kg would be the practical limit for the aircraft. Anything higher and it would really struggle to get off the ground.

Badsight-
03-22-2007, 11:28 PM
for the thread starter :

Kalinin K-12 - the designer got himself arrested in 1938 , work on it ended

there is another whose name/designation escapes me . it was a wing-type plane but carried 2 40m cannon

DarkWingDuck...
03-23-2007, 02:40 AM
6000 kilos, not