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SeaFireLIV
01-07-2005, 07:05 PM
Remember the Mistel? The TB3 Sveno with it`s I16s underneath? Even the doodlebug?
Does anyone ever use them? Perhaps for the mission builders maybe...

But those of us hoping to see these things in a campaign were to be dissappointed. Never was a DYNAMIC Campaign created where we could be a part of the TB3 combo either as the underwing I16 or the TB3 carrying the I16 itself.

Oleg said we`d be able to fly the TB3/I16 Sveno offline when I asked him, but I never realised it would be in a couple of linear - non dynamic missions. I meant (and said) for Campaigns. The language/understanding problem again maybe. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Never did we have any dynamic missions where we may have to tackle and shoot down Doodlebugs in Campaign (in the Western Front campaign add on). You had plenty in European Air War.

Never do we get a chance to take up a Mistel even in the odd `one off` mission in Campaign (Luftwaffe of course).
Yes, we can fly a single mission as with the TB3, but then it`s done and the thrill of doing it isn`t the same if not part of an ongoing war...

Even ONline, it`s extremely rare to see a Mistel or an I16/TB3 combo. In fact I saw an online TB3 combo maybe once and a Mistel never.

But my focus is really for the offline crowd. These aircraft are next to useless for them.

This is a great sim, but all I ask is that Oleg makes a little effort to allow some of these unique planes a proper run (at least appearing sometimes) in the dynamic Campaign. Starshoy please take note (though I have sent messages to him as well, with, as usual, no response). http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

_VR_ScorpionWorm
01-08-2005, 12:18 AM
I second that. But for the TB3 Sveno and the Mistel I believe (not an official quote) Oleg said that AI couldnt take off with these two, setting them already in flight worked via FMB. Still, it would be nice to code it into the Dgen(is that how it works?) with them already in flight(at the start of the mission) and go up against or protect such aircraft.

Extreme_One
01-08-2005, 04:54 AM
Yeah - that's the problem. The Mistel - AI can't do anything with it - it's nothing but a target when AIs in control.

SeaFireLIV
01-08-2005, 05:19 AM
Ah, but that doesn`t mean the pilot cannot command the Mistel in Campaign. Didn`t hear anything on this for the Sveno, but then make the Sveno an airstart if that`s true.

Anyway, maybe these FORGOTTEN AIRCRAFT (the TB3 Sveno for example) will make their way in to a Campaign like this:

1. You pick an I16 Campaign as normal and after every 9 or 10 missions you get a special mission where you are strapped under the wing of an AI TB3 and taken on bombing mission.

or

2.You pick a TB3 bombing Campaign and every 9/10 missions you get to carry 2 I16s with bombs on a `special` bombing mission.

I see no reason why this cannot be done. It would make use of the Sveno combination which I really like but at the moment is wasted offline in the dynamic Campaigns (and just about noone uses them online).

And imagine the fun for the Luftwaffe boys coming across a snaeky Sveno attack strapped with 2 I6s! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

and...

The Mistel could be a `special` mission for the player only (still as part of the dynamic campaign) to bomb a particularly important target, escorted of course.

Oleg, let`s make use of that Sveno at least!

LEXX_Luthor
01-08-2005, 04:50 PM
Now wait a minute, you could be assigned to full Zveno squadron, as either TB~3 crew member or I~16 crew member. So every mission is Zveno. Anyway the I~16 Zveno loadout is only the 2 250kg bombs which it was not possible to take off without TB~3, so you can only realistically fly I~16 SBP missions with the TB~3 carrying you into the air if you want to carry anything beyond cannons and mg.

I think the I~16 SBP was made different for TB3 missions, but don't know if they could load some 100kg bomns.

SeaFireLIV
01-08-2005, 08:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LEXX_Luthor:
Now wait a minute, you could be assigned to full Zveno squadron, as either TB~3 crew member or I~16 crew member. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hmmm, ok. I`ll live with that, I`m just trying to make feasible suggestions in case Starshoy or Oleg`s having a quick look see.