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dieg777
05-28-2005, 05:28 PM
For anyone interested in this piece of hardware-I have added a review of a trackir3 that I have just aquired for my birthday here http://www.airwarfare.com/AWX/features/reviews/trackir_review.htm

please add any comments here

http://airwarfare.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=486

thanks

dieg777
05-28-2005, 05:28 PM
For anyone interested in this piece of hardware-I have added a review of a trackir3 that I have just aquired for my birthday here http://www.airwarfare.com/AWX/features/reviews/trackir_review.htm

please add any comments here

http://airwarfare.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=486

thanks

Grisha7
05-28-2005, 05:45 PM
Just got trackir myself a couple of weeks back. As your review suggests, it is indeed the dogs dangly bits. Couldn't imagine being without it now http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

arcadeace
05-28-2005, 05:48 PM
Every time I read a review I'm about to buy it.

Well written dieg. If this doesn't finally persuade me (unlike the full 'real' jerks), I'm hopeless. Thanks for your time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

WTE_Ibis
05-28-2005, 06:06 PM
If you want to improve tracking get a wooden half sphere about half inch diam,(available at hardware shop) and cover with dots, place on hat or glasses.
That way you won't lose tracking at the edges and you can sit further away from monitor.
Check out Toads sig for more info.with photos.
Cheers, Ibis.

Deedsundone
05-29-2005, 01:41 AM
I have had my eye on those track ir thingys for a while now but never got the "guts" to get one.I think that my trusty pov hat do its work in spite its limitation.But,in hectic ACM fight I tend to loose sight of the foe sometimes and and that is one notch closer to a parachute jump,so,after a few month hard work I have or choose to have spare doe for one,so I ordered a Track ir 3 pro.Hope it fullfill my expectasions and others peoples sweraing about it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

ytareh
05-29-2005, 02:39 AM
Maybe interested in on of these...a few questions....Do you have to wear a hat or glasses to fix dot to?If you can stick one on your forehead what kind of adhesive do they use?Doesnt it loose its grip?Do they supply lots of dots with kit?That scary looking camera thingy looks heavy wont it pull down my TFT monitor?Can you look vertically above/behind or do you just use it for straight ahead vision?Is this really only for the Full Real players/can it benefit external views ?
As you can probably guess I dont know much about this gizmo.I know some might say well go off and research it elsewhere but its always better to get a short simple explanation from within the community with a IL2/PF slant.Thanks!PS wheres good to get one from in UK/Ireland and can you get spare dots?

ytareh
05-29-2005, 02:42 AM
Just as a follow up to above post Im only just dipping my toe in the full real world so is it too early to get a Track IR?I find the hat switch actually quite useful after a bit of practice.

madsarmy
05-29-2005, 02:43 AM
I have just upgraded from TIR to TIR3pro with Vector expansion. The difference is amazing. Soooo Smoooth! & the vector in FS2004 is just stunning.
you can sit up & lean forward to look over objects to see instruments. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
I'm looking forward to getting vector in BOBhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

madsarmy
05-29-2005, 03:03 AM
Originally posted by ytareh:
Do you have to wear a hat or glasses to fix dot to?
No you don't. but I can recommend the track hat.

If you can stick one on your forehead what kind of adhesive do they use?
Don't know! but I had no reaction to adhesive before I started to use a hat.

Doesnt it loose its grip?
Yes but Toad has a good solution if you use a hat & you wont need to keep buying dots.
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?q=Y&a=tpc&s=400102&f=49310655&m=15310285&p=1 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?q=Y&a=tpc&s=400102&f=49310655&m=15310285&p= 1)

Do they supply lots of dots with kit?
Not many but you wont need anymore if you do the above

That scary looking camera thingy looks heavy wont it pull down my TFT monitor?
No! it is very light & small.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/tommybomb/tir.jpg

Can you look vertically above/behind or do you just use it for straight ahead vision?
You look around like you would for real. All angles.

Is this really only for the Full Real players/can it benefit external views ?
You can use it for externals. you will also find flying easier in cockpit with TIR. You might end up convertedhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

wheres good to get one from in UK/Ireland and can you get spare dots?
https://edimensional.com/

T_O_A_D
05-29-2005, 03:29 AM
Good review.

SeaFireLIV
05-29-2005, 03:48 AM
Funny thing is, TIR is most likely to turn a lot of no cockpit flyers into cockpit flyers... slower turning them to the darkside of us `full real` jerks.

dieg777
05-29-2005, 04:35 AM
ytareh

madsarmy has covered your questions but just to reinforce some points-

The device works best if the dots are attatched to a hat or if you play online on the mic boom.
If you attatch to glasses or head then the "idiot" factor really comes into play if you forget they are there and wander about with them still stuck to you

It is supplied with 6 large dots and 20 smaller- these have some reusability but eventually the glue will wear off.

I think this is best suited to cockpit fliers- they will get most immersion from using this- but works just as well in externals- It is "just" a way of controlling the camera by replacing the hat switch. I dont fly full online.

You can look to all angles including almost directly behind and straight up or down- the device exagerates the camera angle compaired to head movement so a 1 degree head movement could equil a 90 degree camera movement. But you can tailor this in the software setup to suit yourself.You can also set the smooth rate so that it does not spin but pans smoothly.

Natural points european distribution centre is based in uk so best order direct- the device only took about 3 days from the time I place the order to arrival.

The trackir3 I bought is the cheapest option the others offer more functions or higher scan rate but I find this one just fine for myself.

Hope you find this useful.

Flakenstien
05-29-2005, 06:12 AM
My mates bought me a TIR as a Bday gift and I can't thank them enough!! Simply awesome! I plan on getting the Vector soon.
As far as the hat goes it works fine (no need to buy the TIR hat, any will do)
But I'm one of them people that hate having things on my head, the headset along with a hat is overkill to me but I have found a solution that is extremly comfortable and allows the camera to see the whole dot improving accuracy.

I went out and bought a cheap headband! (the terry cloth type used to keep sweat out of your eyes during those intensive workout sessions,we all partake in, lol) The one I got is black( lighter colors by theory reflect light), stuck a square dot dead center and position it right in the middle "between the eyes", I had tweaked the software over and over again trying for perfection and this did the trick! The same as sticking the dot on your forehead but reusable.
Hope some try this and find it usefull.

Vipez-
05-29-2005, 08:22 AM
Just to be honest, i've owned TIR 3 Pro for almost an year, and I still am not used to it.. Truth is, it is not neccessarily better, if you have trained to use POV/Freeview or what ever system you use to look around.

My point is, if you are doing fine with your current system, there is no point in changing to TrackIR .. however, if you are not happy to look around in the cockpit, then TIR is a good purchase..

Just don't expect it to do miracles for you .. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif