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Abel29A
07-17-2005, 05:49 AM
I'm on my first 262 campaign now, and have great enjoyment engaging massive formations of B17 with my wunderwaffe.

However - the nasty gunners of the B17's have a habit of hitting one of my engines. Usually one hit is enough for the engine to flame up.

I was wondering if anybody had any tips on how to land the bird safely. What I do when one of my engines starts burning is to immediately shut that engine off. I then throttle back on the other engine and start a descent towards the nearest airfield.

My problem is this - even though the engine usually extinguish itself after a few seconds after the initial fire - every time I approach the airfield and the speed decreases to landing speeds of around 200-220kmh, the damaged engine starts burning again. And as soon as I land the flames from the burning engine engulfs the entire plane and I have to bail out as soon as the plane stops.

I've tried the fire extinguisher to no effect, not even sure if the 262 had fire extingueshers?

Is there a way to safely land a 262 that has had a engine burning? Some settings I should do or some ingenious tricks to try?

Abel29A
07-17-2005, 05:49 AM
I'm on my first 262 campaign now, and have great enjoyment engaging massive formations of B17 with my wunderwaffe.

However - the nasty gunners of the B17's have a habit of hitting one of my engines. Usually one hit is enough for the engine to flame up.

I was wondering if anybody had any tips on how to land the bird safely. What I do when one of my engines starts burning is to immediately shut that engine off. I then throttle back on the other engine and start a descent towards the nearest airfield.

My problem is this - even though the engine usually extinguish itself after a few seconds after the initial fire - every time I approach the airfield and the speed decreases to landing speeds of around 200-220kmh, the damaged engine starts burning again. And as soon as I land the flames from the burning engine engulfs the entire plane and I have to bail out as soon as the plane stops.

I've tried the fire extinguisher to no effect, not even sure if the 262 had fire extingueshers?

Is there a way to safely land a 262 that has had a engine burning? Some settings I should do or some ingenious tricks to try?

BenvZijl
07-17-2005, 05:57 AM
shut down the engine thats burning, keep full throttle on the other engine, do a straight dive down.

MADCAT3
07-17-2005, 06:08 AM
No the Me 262 dosn't have fire extinguishers lol, but you are doing the right thing.
Only thing I can add if you real want to save your plane, even though its realy a lost corse with a 262 is if your engine is burning do what you do and dive if you need to to put it out and if you make it back to base land as fast as you dare.

You can't realy do any more, hope this helped.

Taylortony
07-17-2005, 06:21 AM
Yes a rapid dive can put it out, bar that reach down as low as you can in the cockpit and kiss your A++ goodbye

Badsight.
07-17-2005, 06:22 AM
you bust em off

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Taylortony
07-17-2005, 06:36 AM
there's always one http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif hehehehehehehe

Tiger27
07-17-2005, 08:31 AM
Abel29A, if your managing to put it down with one flaming engine and get out before being "fried to a crisp" your doing a lot better than most of the rl Luftwaffe pilots who experienced an engine fire in a 262 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Abel29A
07-17-2005, 08:45 AM
Well it seems I'm on the right track then...

Yeah I always dive when the engine flames up again and this tend to put out the fire quickly - but of course on final approach that is not an option http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

To bad you cant radio ahead to have the airfield personell standing by with firetrucks - that would maybe save the day.

Well from now on I'll think I'll just bail straight away seeing as there is no purpose trying to land the bird.

And badsight - is there a way to get rid of the engines through heavy manuvers or the like? I dont think a tactic of flying into enemy bombers hoping only to get rid of the damaged engine will work in the long run http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

-HH-Dubbo
07-17-2005, 12:39 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Usually I have to rub the enines off on the ground. I haven't tried colliding midair with something to achieve this. The latter seems much more difficult

Stackhouse25th
07-17-2005, 12:46 PM
its hard to do, but i try to rip an engine off everytime theres a fire

LStarosta
07-17-2005, 01:32 PM
Makes you wish you could jettison your motor.

joeap
07-17-2005, 01:34 PM
Try head-ons to minimise getting hit in the first place. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Abel29A
07-17-2005, 03:25 PM
Hehe good advice joeap - I usually tru head-on approaches and diving from on high - but those nasty AI gunners sometimes get me no matter how clever I think I am.

Besides I always like keeping my airspeed around 500+ when engaging with a 262, and then the rate of closure is sometihing like 750kmh - which require split-second timing for shooting. Something, alas, I'm rarely capable off http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

NorrisMcWhirter
07-17-2005, 03:39 PM
Ah, the old 'invisible landing gear gag.' I've had the same in the Beaufighter.

If it was like an early patch P38, you could always use the non-existent extinguisher on it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Ta,
Norris

Xiolablu3
07-17-2005, 08:09 PM
Unfortunatly there doesnt seem to be a lot you can do about engines 'relighting' when coming in to land.

Does anyone know if you cool down your engines a bit (ie fly around at 30-40% throttle with radiator open) whether that stops them from reigniting on landing? I'm not too sure. It just seems to be random whether they flame again or not, for me.

This isnt just on the Me262 , it happens with all planes.

I am finding more and more that it is better not to risk a tough landing and just bail. If you land in a field online then you get less points than if you bail over your own country, which seems a bit daft to me as there would always be the possibility of saving your plane afterwards as long as enemy forces arent too close.

I think u should get 40 points per kill for a succesful land in the field in enemy territory and 60 per kill for a land in your own. This would make people try and land rather than just bailing. Plus it would reward you for a tough landing.

FI-Aflak
07-17-2005, 09:53 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
Unfortunatly there doesnt seem to be a lot you can do about engines 'relighting' when coming in to land.

Does anyone know if you cool down your engines a bit (ie fly around at 30-40% throttle with radiator open) whether that stops them from reigniting on landing? I'm not too sure. It just seems to be random whether they flame again or not, for me.

This isnt just on the Me262 , it happens with all planes.

I am finding more and more that it is better not to risk a tough landing and just bail. If you land in a field online then you get less points than if you bail over your own country, which seems a bit daft to me as there would always be the possibility of saving your plane afterwards as long as enemy forces arent too close.

I think u should get 40 points per kill for a succesful land in the field in enemy territory and 60 per kill for a land in your own. This would make people try and land rather than just bailing. Plus it would reward you for a tough landing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The only way to get rid of an engine for for good with the 262 is to get rid of the engine. Fly low, just get it on the ground. It takes some doing, but its the only way to save the plane.

Badsight.
07-17-2005, 10:06 PM
the fires work on a sequence once started

you get re-lights till they go pop , once you learn the sequence (longer burns each re-light) you will see that sometimes a hit motor will blow off early

seems to me that damadge is calculated & if you took a light hit to start burning your allowed to get away with the full sequence

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Ah, the old 'invisible landing gear gag.' I've had the same in the Beaufighter. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> no that was from a high speed dive that oddly enough ripped off the motors but left the wings intact

i lowered the gear over 400 kmh as well thus no rear landing gear

apart from the one fluke occurrence of ripping off the motors at high speed , the only other way is to glance them on the ground

its not easy , what is easy is to stuff it up & kill yourself , but if you manage to "touch-&-go" the motor against the ground it will stop & burn while you get to fly away