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Engadin
01-06-2011, 05:11 PM
Hi all http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

It looks like the promise of an efficient - in terms of its 720p resolution - VR glasses - the best companion of our TrackIR device -, with a look ala 'Tron'- is getting increasingly closer to reality:

http://img.xataka.com/2011/01/2011_01_05_sonygafas3d2.jpg

Head mounted display from Sony (http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/06/sonys-3d-head-mounted-display-prototype-face-on/)

No info about collateral effects (dizziness, headaches, etc.) but it looks like it's way too heavy yet.

Engadin
01-06-2011, 05:11 PM
Hi all http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

It looks like the promise of an efficient - in terms of its 720p resolution - VR glasses - the best companion of our TrackIR device -, with a look ala 'Tron'- is getting increasingly closer to reality:

http://img.xataka.com/2011/01/2011_01_05_sonygafas3d2.jpg

Head mounted display from Sony (http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/06/sonys-3d-head-mounted-display-prototype-face-on/)

No info about collateral effects (dizziness, headaches, etc.) but it looks like it's way too heavy yet.

gothkrieger
01-07-2011, 07:04 PM
the 3d part would be cool but is this kind of device available in a non 3d version from anyplace?

Mysticpuma2003
01-08-2011, 01:43 AM
All you'd need then is the hand-gloves that Tom Cruise used in Minority Report for the Virtual Keyboard as you wont be able to see the one on the desk?

Seriously, I think that one day this will be "the future" of PC hardware. Just as Track IR can monitor head movement, if this visor could monitor hand motion it could track a virtual keyboard so you would have 180-degree immersion?

I have a feeling the Porn Industry will be investing money to get this baby into the shops!

However my main thoughts are "****, I wish I was still young and could see the next 100-years of progress. Look how-far we have progressed in the last 100-years! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

Stiletto-
01-08-2011, 01:56 AM
I always rag on these things because they get hyped up but people overlook the fact that they have horrible resolutions... This one seems to be a step in the right direction though at 720p.

Another thing you have to look at is the simulated viewing distance. Some of these things say stuff like " Simulated viewing distance similar to a 65 inch monitor looked at from 8 ft away". What that really means is that your whole view is not engulfed with the screens vision. If the screen area does fill up your eyeballs view, I'm pretty sure that the pixels will be blown up and very noticeable at 720P.

Still, who knows how awesome or bad it would be without trying it? As long as you have enough cash to buy a Hyundia, I'm sure it would be affordable. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Engadin
01-08-2011, 09:37 AM
Who'd say, just 5 years ago, a device that allows you to see back at your neck with only a 15 degrees head's turn, while keeping your eyes on your display, and with a reflective dot on your forehead, I repeat, who'd say it was to become the more inmersive 'add-on' for Il-2 and many other sims?. I must admit I was just an inch away to give up at about the bottom of it's steep learning curve and the relatively few availabe adjustments. But now I canīt live/fly without it, and I have forgotten the lot of neck pains and headaches I have to pass through to get to where I am now.

For sure the way to go with head mounted displays will merely be the same - from roughness to fineness -, with some 'pain' http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif and expenses in between - but in the end the wait will be wellworth, same as before. The story will repeat again. That's my dream at least, and I hope yours aswell http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif .
About the gloves, that goes beyond my wildest dreams http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif but let' give time to time.

Engadin.

Stiletto-
01-08-2011, 09:50 PM
as TrackIR has become standard in flight sims, I'm sure given time (possible lots and lots of time?) that VR headset will become standard too.. But in between those times, I per-see having a 3+ monitor setup be the norm.

(3 monitors an eyefinity graphics card and 5760x1080 res and very wide viewing angle for under 700 dollars anyone?)

Engadin
01-09-2011, 09:18 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Stiletto-:
as TrackIR has become standard in flight sims, I'm sure given time (possible lots and lots of time?) that VR headset will become standard too.. But in between those times, I per-see having a 3+ monitor setup be the norm.

(3 monitors an eyefinity graphics card and 5760x1080 res and very wide viewing angle for under 700 dollars anyone?) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yep, I totally agree with you, a 3 displays mount it's a logical - and not so expensive - solution, that improves inmersion significantly, of course, until the definite operative head mounted displays (HMD) show up.

And, just thinking about it - something I am not too fond to do too often -, the market niche of the 2D/3D HMDs, IMHO, is just the same as TrackIR's.So if you already have this last you'll love to get a HMD, exponentially enhancing inmersion at once. We will need to lighten our pockets a lot more than we did with our TIR5 but, on the other hand, this time the learning curve will be mostly flat, I guess. And the modification of the TIR behaviour when turning our head - turning our 'actual' head 1 degree will correspond with 1 degree turn of the 'virtual' one - will be an easy issue to solve with a driver update. Just my silly http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif two cents.

Engadin.

sabre365
01-09-2011, 09:26 AM
And if you use SoftTH you can do 3 monitors for a lot less than $700.

Engadin
01-09-2011, 11:35 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by gothkrieger:
the 3d part would be cool but is this kind of device available in a non 3d version from anyplace? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Two years ago at CES, Sony showed off a prototype head-mount display that showed 2D images. That device still hasn’t come to market.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE> http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Sony 3D HMD at Macworld (http://www.macworld.com/article/156920/2011/01/sony_immersive3d.html)

As well, a report at Arstechnica (http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2011/01/hands-on-sonys-head-mounted-3d-display.ars)

ElAurens
01-09-2011, 06:06 PM
I absolutely need 2D hardware. Because of a problem with my left eye, I am unable to see simulated 3D.

No 3D movies.

No 3D TV.

No 3D anything.

*sigh* Getting old is no fun.

Stiletto-
01-09-2011, 06:36 PM
@Engadin
Yeah, I think some of the turn off to the TrackIR is not having the 1:1 movement and your eyeballs starring at a stationay point as your heads turns. Not really a big deal for most but some people have problems adapting to that, or don't want to give it a try. a 1:1 VR device would definately help in that department.

@sabre
I was going to go the SoftTH route but my graphics card is so old, I'd need the 2nd card enabled so I could run Quadfire at such a high screen resolution with 3 screens! I plan to get a 6970 or 6990 this spring, along with 2 extra monitors then.

@ElAurens,
I think you'd be fine with a VR Headset, because unlike 3d devices which show images for each eye coming from a single screen source, each eye piece has its own monitor in it. You could effectively close one eye and still see a perfect image.

Engadin
01-10-2011, 01:15 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">@ElAurens,
I think you'd be fine with a VR Headset, because unlike 3d devices which show images for each eye coming from a single screen source, each eye piece has its own monitor in it. You could effectively close one eye and still see a perfect image. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

With this smart point of view on the table, ElAurens, you've never been out of the game! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif And you'll never be whatever new HMDs will show up.

wolfhnd
01-11-2011, 12:01 PM
http://www.vrealities.com/simeye.html