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Realjambo
07-21-2008, 04:32 PM
There is nothing wrong with 'Off Topic' (OT) threads of course, but recently the Ubi 'OFOTW' - Official Off Topic Watchers' have been getting a little nervous, for fear of that their forums might, just might, lose a little of their intended purpose or focus that they began with - in this case, SH3.

In an effort to try to condense some of the OT threads and future OT topics, this thread has been created for everybody to throw in OT subjects, things they have seen in the news, gaming releases, Birthdays, etc. Keeping within the ToU of course (http://www.ubi.com/US/Info/Info.aspx?tagname=TermsOfUse), anything goes really. That isn't to say you can't start a standalone 'OT' thread, but consider posting it here instead as those who do participate should have the 'auto-notification' enabled and you might just find the more that join in the wider an audience your post will receive, without even realising it! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

I'll start us off:

RJ reads today that the British Army is preparing to parachute dogs into some of the most dangerous war zones in the world? True! I hope those hounds remember to keep all four feet together, bend all four knees and roll away from the canopy when they hit the ground! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif You can read about it Here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7518560.stm)

Realjambo
07-21-2008, 04:32 PM
There is nothing wrong with 'Off Topic' (OT) threads of course, but recently the Ubi 'OFOTW' - Official Off Topic Watchers' have been getting a little nervous, for fear of that their forums might, just might, lose a little of their intended purpose or focus that they began with - in this case, SH3.

In an effort to try to condense some of the OT threads and future OT topics, this thread has been created for everybody to throw in OT subjects, things they have seen in the news, gaming releases, Birthdays, etc. Keeping within the ToU of course (http://www.ubi.com/US/Info/Info.aspx?tagname=TermsOfUse), anything goes really. That isn't to say you can't start a standalone 'OT' thread, but consider posting it here instead as those who do participate should have the 'auto-notification' enabled and you might just find the more that join in the wider an audience your post will receive, without even realising it! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

I'll start us off:

RJ reads today that the British Army is preparing to parachute dogs into some of the most dangerous war zones in the world? True! I hope those hounds remember to keep all four feet together, bend all four knees and roll away from the canopy when they hit the ground! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif You can read about it Here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7518560.stm)

Goose_Green
07-21-2008, 08:56 PM
An excellent idea RJ http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif The OT threads do come and go I guess. But then again, some of us, myself included have finished playing the game but still like to come back and hang out where we always have done, call it our forum home http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Here is another OT thread, it appears there is some new developments in Serbia where Serbia captures fugitive Karadzic (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7518543.stm)

Realjambo
07-22-2008, 01:49 AM
I saw that too, Goose. I suspect a long and complicated trial will now ensue?

Celeon999
07-22-2008, 02:16 AM
I think it would be wise to get him out of Serbia and to Den Haag as fast as possible now.

The longer he stays in Belgrade, the "hotter" the situation gets.

If you keep him for months in Belgrade you should expect that his "fan club" uses the time to heat the tention among his followers up and organize support events, street clashes and cheesy "free our hero" celebrations.

Hand him over silently at night without anyone knowing and wait with the announcement until he's already out of country.



Parachuting SAS dogs ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Hot for Taliban legs and butt cheeks ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif


http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/9539/38681940kj1.jpg

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/4361/84778993bb7.jpg

Kielhauler1961
07-22-2008, 03:34 AM
I agree, RJ. The OT's were beginning to dominate proceedings and putting them all together on one thread is a capital idea. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

BTW, what do the dogs do for rations? Is the RAF going to air-drop pallets of doggybix behind enemy lines? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Bad air-drops (equipment casualties only, apart from the poor guy in the second clip who probably had a squeaky voice for a couple of days).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkGxAdCRGcA

VikingGrandad
07-22-2008, 04:14 AM
Good move RJ http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

I don't think it needs to be stickied though. Stickies have a habit of being ignored or not noticed after a while. I think this thread will keep running and running like the 'Picture a Day' thread if left unstickied. Just my two penneth! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


Getting onto the subjects in hand...

I sincerely hope the dogs will only be used for sniffing out explosives and nothing more sinister than that. Putting truly innocent animals in lethal danger in place of humans makes my blood boil - e.g. in WW2, the Soviet anti-tank 'bomb dogs' and the USAAF dropping bats fitted with time-delay explosives on Japanese cities http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif


Glad to gear Karadzic has been caught. Let's hope they get Mladic soon...

Messervy
07-22-2008, 04:26 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Putting truly innocent animals in lethal danger in place of humans makes my blood boil </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I second that. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Kielhauler1961
07-22-2008, 05:16 AM
Originally posted by VikingGrandad:
...the Soviet anti-tank 'bomb dogs' and the USAAF dropping bats fitted with time-delay explosives on Japanese cities http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

I read that the Soviet bomb-dogs were a complete failure. They were trained by first being starved and then hunks of meat were thrown under tanks, so that the dogs would make the association of the underside of tanks with their next meal.

The Soviets used their own tanks for this training. When the dogs were sent into action for the first (and I think only) time they ran under the Russian tanks.

Explosives sniffer dogs are already deployed with British forces in Afghanistan, where they undoubtedly save many service and civilian lives. I can't imagine the SAS doggies would actually have a "combatant" role, but wait to hear more. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

VG, I've never heard of USAAF explosive bats before. Do you have any more info?

VikingGrandad
07-22-2008, 05:27 AM
Look up 'Bat Bomb' on Wikipedia. Like the anti-tank dog idea, it was never put into operation, but that doesn't detract from the intent http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

Kielhauler1961
07-22-2008, 05:40 AM
Thanks VG, just read the wiki. Not only cruel but insane waste of money and resources. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

A link from the article produced this bird-brained idea: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Pigeon

Celeon999
07-22-2008, 06:16 AM
Ahh Mr.Skinner.

This was surely one his rather awkward and questionable ideas. Nonetheless the man was a genius in other fields of science.

I highly recommend his book "Walden Two - The vision of a better society" which is unlike his other books not a dry scientifical work but work of fiction in which describes how a society shaped after his ideas might work and why people would be happier in it.

It was a bomb when he published the book in the USA of 1948 because Skinner clearly rejected the USA's form of democratic capitalism and embraced a heavy modified form of socialism instead.

Of course he was called a communist for that, by people who didnt read his book or just didnt understood his argumentation.

In fact Skinner rejected dictatorism, communism and democracy at the same time as being "all failed society models" and suggested that people just have stopped of trying to invent something better. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

"How to protect freedom and prevent a dictatorship ? Build a society in which the leader or leaders can gain no advantages in being a dictator"

Its truly fascinating.


Walden Two (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walden_Two)

Burrhus Frederic Skinner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._F._Skinner)

Realjambo
07-22-2008, 06:30 AM
Certainly a hot topic in the UK - fuel prices. Today major supermarkets announce a cut of to 4 pence per litre - and not before time!

Just look at this graph tracking the average price over the last few years - it kind of brings home the point! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v642/antsmith/_44852704_retail_pump_226.gif

Celeon999
07-22-2008, 10:06 AM
Found something very strange on the german navy website.


At the moment, the naval forces of Germany, the UK, Canada and the USA hold a VIRTUAL joint exercise by forming a -&gt;VIRTUAL&lt;- NATO carrier strike group around the USS Theodor Roosevelt at the VIRTUAL crisis region....., symbolized by the coast of Florida http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif


Which means that none of the ships is actually really at sea and everything happens as one big "LAN Party" style simulation in which the commanding officers sit on computers and give imaginary orders as if they were aboard their ships and really present at the coast of Florida. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

The exercise is controlled from Norfolk, Virginia to which all participants are connected with a secured 8/mbit connection.


This is called SFT. Synthetic Fleet Training. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

So there is a huge virtual naval battle going on at the moment, including submarines. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

The Luftwaffe also participates and secures the north eastern flank of the carrier strike group by operating from a virtual neighbour country bordering virtual Florida http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif


http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/6775/sft1hu9.jpg

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/8435/sft2yd7.jpg

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/9296/sft3ed8.jpg

Kielhauler1961
07-22-2008, 10:35 AM
Awww, it's not fair! These people get PAID to play super-wargames over an 8Mb link?

Where can I join up? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Celeon, the guy in your second photo, second from right, bears a remarkable resemblance to George Clooney...

klcarroll
07-22-2008, 10:58 AM
@Celeon;

Wouldn't it be nice if the next big confrontation could be resolved in a "virtual" environment in a big "Lan Party"???

In that environment you might even survive the "Danish Retribution Squads"!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

klcarroll

Realjambo
07-22-2008, 11:07 AM
If I recall, Arma: Armed Assault (Yup, Celeon made me buy that one, too!) and Battlefield 2 PC games are / were used by the US to help train troops?

I don't mean comprehensively of course, but I read about them being used to demonstrate tactics and squad movement.

Oh and I think that's George Clooney too! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Celeon999
07-22-2008, 11:31 AM
Celeon does not fear any Dane ! No matter how big bad and cruel he might be ! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif


And yes..... THAT IS GEORGE CLOONEY http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Ive already heard of u.s celebrities who have to earn hard euros with any available side-job. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Everything for keeping their expensive luxury houses after the credit crunch ... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif


@RJ

Yes, Arma is the "light version" of VBS 2 which was made for military training purposes.

I believe the canadian military uses it too.

VBS 2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VBS2)

Realjambo
07-22-2008, 12:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">@RJ

Yes, Arma is the "light version" of VBS 2 which was made for military training purposes. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes! It's all coming back to me now Celeon. You said at the time that if I completed that game, then I could apply to join the US Infantry Fast Track Promotion Scheme.

... I'm still waiting to hear back from them http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Goose_Green
07-22-2008, 10:43 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Realjambo:
Certainly a hot topic in the UK - fuel prices. Today major supermarkets announce a cut of to 4 pence per litre - and not before time!

Just look at this graph tracking the average price over the last few years - it kind of brings home the point! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v642/antsmith/_44852704_retail_pump_226.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Going back to the thread on fuel prices and seeing that graph above, I can remember when I had my first car in 1995 (Mk II Ford Fiesta) it cost me £15 to fill her up, and fuel was at the 52p per litre mark!! It's amazing how things change in all that time!!

Realjambo
07-23-2008, 01:20 AM
Indeed, Goose! I remember that diesel was always much cheaper than unleaded and we were all encouraged to buy diesel engined cars - now it's more expensive http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Whilst waiting for fuel prices to drop, why not have a go at completing a VIIc online jigsaw? (http://military.discovery.com/convergence/topten/subs/super-puzzles/puzzle.html) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

Celeon999
07-23-2008, 03:20 AM
What did i say ? LINK (http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,567478,00.html) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif


Why dont they listen to Celeon ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Goose_Green
07-23-2008, 05:44 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Realjambo:
Indeed, Goose! I remember that diesel was always much cheaper than unleaded and we were all encouraged to buy diesel engined cars - now it's more expensive http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

A massive conspiracy to rip us all off - it was a master plan that duped everyone http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

I think prices are coming down, the BP fuel station I visit regularly at the Severn Bridge had dropped it's diesel price by a penny. I filled up this morning and it was standing at 138.9p per litre and not the 139.9p per litre. It must have been something to do with the supermarket price war going on http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Realjambo:
Whilst waiting for fuel prices to drop, why not have a go at completing a VIIc online jigsaw? (http://military.discovery.com/convergence/topten/subs/super-puzzles/puzzle.html) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Fantastic find http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif How on earth did you find that one?

Realjambo
07-23-2008, 06:09 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">How on earth did you find that one? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks Goose, glad you enjoyed it. It was a link off a link off a link kind of discovery.

Now for something completely different!

A blast from my childhood. - anyone else remember THIS? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7520243.stm) I broke many a priceless antique ornament at Jambo Towers running around twirling a broom stick above my head thinking it was my fighting staff http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v642/antsmith/monkey.jpg

Celeon999
07-23-2008, 09:33 AM
Hmmm,.. Monkey Magic is new to me. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif


So the big "O" is coming to the fatherland tomorrow.

Not the "Silent O" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif but Barack Obama.

http://pastamanvibration.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/barack_obama00001.jpg


There was some "displeasure" from the british and french governments reported. About the overall layout of his Europe visit. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

It seems that Obama's decision to visit Germany instead of the UK first, his plans to give a speech in front of the Brandenburg Gate, and his last minute appeal to speak to Merkel for one hour instead of the planned 30 minutes with Brown and Sarkozy , caused some slight "wondering" in Britain and France.

Let Celeon give you a insight into what this is really all about. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


One word : Appeasement

Barack knows that if he should be elected to become the next president of the USA, he will automatically inherit a major role in the secret cold war between Germany and the Washington-Kopenhagen axis. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

And of course he understands that this is more serious than Iraq or Afghanistan. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

Now that this unholy American-Danish alliance could come to a turning point, and with "Fall Beiber" looming on the horizon, Obama sees a opportunity to defuse the ticking bomb. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

Celeon knows that John McCain, supported by the Silent O and his grey friends from Roswell, would continue to support the hardline politics implemented by the alliance forged between George W. Bush and Anders Fogh Rasmussen. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/20050706-3_w9w6544-515h.jpg

Maverick_U2007
07-23-2008, 11:49 AM
Ok..an Idiots 10 point guide to 'earning' £250,000.

1 Take out life insurance
2 Concoct plan with wife.
3. Buy a canoe
4 Take Canoe out into North Sea.
5 Arrange for canoe to be found without self onboard.
6 Build hidden room in wife's house.
7 Live in Hidden room.
8 Get Wifeto claim insurance money.
9. Get wife to emigrate to South American Country and go with her..
10.Live happily ever after.

A 10 point guide of what not to do.

1. Go to South American Country with wife using real name.
2 Have 'friend' take photograph of you and wife together in South American Country.
3 Keep Photograph.
4. Return to UK
5. Walk into Police Station claiming no knowledge of previous 6 years of your life.
6. Tell same story to 2 sons who have already assumed that you are dead and buried and have moved on.
7. Assume that Wife will support your version of events...ie that you disappeared and have amnesia.
8 Admit your responsibility to the Police
9. Plead Guilty...this is the UK there must have been something in your past that the defence could use to prove that you were mentally insane and somebody else must have 'ordered' you to do it.
10.Assume that in her defence that the wife won't put all the blame on you.

The outsome of the using the idiots guide of what not to do!!!

Both of you will get 6 years and 7 months.(Today)

Well done Mr and Mrs Darwin....surely you must be able to sell the film rights!!!

Maverick

Kielhauler1961
07-23-2008, 11:58 AM
West London's latest celebrity...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rAduIkWgko

It takes him a bit longer to clean the same stratch of pavement as the other guys but he is fast becoming a star! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

Realjambo
07-23-2008, 12:56 PM
@ Maverick - That's an excellent post! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

@ KH - I read about him too! If only every public serving employee was like him eh?!

Goose_Green
07-23-2008, 09:38 PM
News of the Royal Marine Lance Corporal who will be receiving the George Cross for diving onto a grenade, saving his comrades from injury, the L/Cpl survived the blast unfortunately his patrol pack did not!!

George Cross nominee (http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/DefenceNews/HistoryAndHonour/RoyalMarineReservistToReceiveTheGeorgeCross.htm)

BBC News article (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7522535.stm)

Realjambo
07-24-2008, 02:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Maverick_U2007:
Ok..an Idiots 10 point guide to 'earning' £250,000.

1 Take out life insurance
2 Concoct plan with wife.
3. Buy a canoe
4 Take Canoe out into North Sea.
5 Arrange for canoe to be found without self onboard.
6 Build hidden room in wife's house.
7 Live in Hidden room.
8 Get Wifeto claim insurance money.
9. Get wife to emigrate to South American Country and go with her..
10.Live happily ever after.

A 10 point guide of what not to do.

1. Go to South American Country with wife using real name.
2 Have 'friend' take photograph of you and wife together in South American Country.
3 Keep Photograph.
4. Return to UK
5. Walk into Police Station claiming no knowledge of previous 6 years of your life.
6. Tell same story to 2 sons who have already assumed that you are dead and buried and have moved on.
7. Assume that Wife will support your version of events...ie that you disappeared and have amnesia.
8 Admit your responsibility to the Police
9. Plead Guilty...this is the UK there must have been something in your past that the defence could use to prove that you were mentally insane and somebody else must have 'ordered' you to do it.
10.Assume that in her defence that the wife won't put all the blame on you.

The outsome of the using the idiots guide of what not to do!!!

Both of you will get 6 years and 7 months.(Today)

Well done Mr and Mrs Darwin....surely you must be able to sell the film rights!!!

Maverick </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

@ Maverick, Hey, Don't know about you but I think they got the wrong person!

The convicted life insurance fraudster Mrs. Anne Darwin:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v642/antsmith/Ecclestone_200.jpg

Formula One Racing Supremo Bernie Ecclestone:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v642/antsmith/darwinanneR_450x300.jpg

Kielhauler1961
07-24-2008, 10:47 AM
Old US Navy warship sunk by torpedo:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7523147.stm

Also, I've been following the meltdown of the Zimbabwean dollar. The official exchange rate is (accurate to this minute only as it's falling so fast) is currently this:

Z$66,423,496,736.0 = 1 British pound!

A new Z$100 billion note has just been issued, worth about 7p (US 15 cents), not enough to buy a loaf of bread. A single egg costs Z$35 billion. Inflation is now 3 million % and is expected to hit 100 million % by the end of August. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

The maximum daily amount that can be withdrawn from a bank is Z$100 billion.

Source: The Independent (p.28), UK, today.

klcarroll
07-24-2008, 11:36 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Also, I've been following the meltdown of the Zimbabwean dollar. The official exchange rate is (accurate to this minute only as it's falling so fast) is currently this: </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I wonder what sort of response you would get, (from those Zimbabweans old enough to remember) if you asked them what they thought of their Pre and Post revolution circumstances now.

What good is freeing yourself from "The Evils of Colonial Tyranny" if the "heroes" in your new government guide the country down to the Ninth Level of Hell???


klcarroll

Maverick_U2007
07-24-2008, 11:53 AM
Anywhere else where there is such a high death rate by Murder, beatings and rapes and a population that in the main is starving and a situation which is not likely to get better, then normally the World's Police would step in........ But where are the prosperous Western Nations.....

'Any Oil in Zimbabwe??'

'No????'

'Ok..not our problem leave it to the African Nations to sort out !!!!!'

Hypocrisy!!!!!!!

Maverick

Kielhauler1961
07-24-2008, 12:10 PM
@klcarroll:

I imagine they would probably say "somewhere in the middle", in a time when the farms were still run by professional whites but political power had shifted to the overwhelming black majority. At that time Zimbabwe was regarded as the "breadbasket of Africa", exporting foodstuffs all over the continent.

It was the leader of Rhodesia, Ian Smith, who preferred "war-war" to "jaw-jaw", declared UDI and pulled-out of the "colonial orbit", much to the chagrin of the Commonwealth of Nations, which then expelled Rhodesia. The intransigence of the white ruling class to face facts only accelerated their downfall.

No one could have forseen the monster Mugabe would later become (HM The Queen doesn't hand out knighthoods to dictators and has revoked Mugabe's award only recently).

From what I know about the appaling black-on-black violence in the country is it all depends on tribal origin and also what political faction you support. If you tick a "x" on either of these you're in for a bad time.

Mugabe's regime can't survive inflationary pressures of this kind. Z$100 billion a day isn't enough to live on! The MDC has just opened talks with the "government" but Mugabe is resisting calls for him to stand aside. At 84, he still wants another 5 years! Thabo Mbeki of South Africa also shoulders much of the blame for supporting Mugabe in all of these crisis'. I've read on some blogs he's called "Mugabe's Bar Stool".

@Maverick20007:

You were posting as I was replying to klcarroll. I agree there is certain amount of hypocrisy but could you imagine the reaction if former colonial powers were to invade?

It would play right into Mugabe's hands. After all he still beats Britain with the colonial stick at every opportunity. He would rally support and it would vindicate all the rubbish he has being saying. Western military action is NOT an option (we don't have the troops either...).

This is a south African problem that require a South African solution. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

klcarroll
07-24-2008, 12:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Hypocrisy!!!!!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

@Maverick;

I don't think it's that simple. Some of us are old enough to remember the accusations that were made against Europeans and Americans during the various "Wars of Liberation" that were fought in the 60's and 70's: ....And some of the names we were called!

It is not unreasonable to expect that many of the "Western Powers" are adopting a "Hands Off" policy in order to avoid being called "Neo-Colonialists".

The simple fact remains that even though the economy of Zimbabwe (or Rhodesia) was primarily agricultural, it was at least stable prior to the post-revolution "Land Re-Distribution Acts" that effectively evicted the Europeans who remained after the revolution.

The past 28 years under Mugabe have been a disgraceful debacle of corruption, mis-management, and human rights violations: .....And yet he maintains that the cause of the Nation's ills are the "Isolationist" Acts of legislation on the part of the EU, British and American governments!!!

Maverick; .....How could ANY of the "Western Powers" intercede, .....when we are still being blamed for the problem??

klcarroll

Kielhauler1961
07-24-2008, 12:53 PM
@klcarroll:

The United States isn't to blame for the problems Africa currently faces, it was never a colonial power in that part of the world. The British, French, Belgian and Italian governments of the mid-late 1800's carved-up their spoils in Africa to suit themselves and split apart ethnic regional and tribal entities DELIBERATELY to cause disunion to protect their minority interests. A case of "divide and rule." One has only to look at the cynical outcome of the Fashoda Incident (1898) for a classic example of colonial manipulation.
LINK: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fashoda_Incident

Forgive me but I'm a bit puzzled as to your statement regarding the

"Wars of Liberation" that were fought in the 60's and 70's: ....And some of the names we were called!"

Which wars were those?

klcarroll
07-24-2008, 01:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Which wars were those? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I refer only to the "efforts" in "South of the Sahara Africa" to break colonial ties with the European powers.

klcarroll

Maverick_U2007
07-24-2008, 01:43 PM
I was listening to the news tonight and again I am being told that our help is needed on the African continent because about 18 million people are in a position whereby they may starve in the next 12 months due to the current climatic conditions. So they require the help of the western world...not because we are any better people but because we are 'richer' countries and live in more temperate climates and as a result our economies can grow.

Zimbabwe has a population of about 13 million. 80% of the people in that country are starving....not because of the climatic conditions but because of the Iron fist that controls the Country...Mugabe.

He has taken what was one of the more economically sound African Countries and because of his 'land grab' policies now driven it towards economic ruin.

He IS killing his countrymen and he wants to continue doing it for another 5 years.!!!!!!!!!

The African countries want the West to help their starving 18 million people, yet when it comes to a country that has 8 million starving people they wish us to do nothing.

We have the UN, we have NATO, there must be some method of 'removing' Mugabe and then getting in someone who will allow the West to send in 'Spcialists'...farmers etc, who can get the Country back on it's feet and whilst doing so can train the people who took over the farms in the 'land grab' to run the farms as they were done in the past.The infrastructure is already there!!!

The 'West' has gone in to remove similar Dictatorships previously, not all being a sucess, BUT...doing nothing is allowing those people to die a long and horrible death.

Yes, once again I, like many others will give to Charity in the vain hope that a percentage of the money actually does help to feed one of those starving people, but I am afraid still that more positive action has to be taken....

How much does 1 bullet or 1 laser guided missile cost in relation to the lives of 18 million people!!!!!!.

I am not usually one to get up on the 'soapbox' and am not one who re-enforces the idea of 'helping people to help thmselves', but this is different, 1 man is the cause of this country's problems and I honestly believe that something could and should be done.

Think about it when you sit down to have a bit of 'Supper' tonight...probably the fourth time you have eaten today!!!!

Maverick

PS...If we are being blamed for the problem we may as well go in and claim we are coming back to sort it out!!!!!!

klcarroll
07-24-2008, 02:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">PS...If we are being blamed for the problem we may as well go in and claim we are coming back to sort it out!!!!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


I agree completely: ....Better to be hung as a Ram rather than a lamb.

....But, unfortunately, most of our leaders suffer from "Burnt Fingers Syndrome".

Particularly here in the U.S., we have come to appreciate that if we meddle in another nation's affairs "for moral reasons", half of the World will condemn the action: ....And if we don't, the other half will condemn our inaction. It's a classic case of "Damned if you do, ...And damned if you don't!"

Hence all the ridiculous efforts we see these days to set up "coalitions".

The World is a sick, sad place: ...And there are no easy answers.

klcarroll

Celeon999
07-24-2008, 02:14 PM
Have patience gentleman. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Celeon's projection :

- Mugabe does not stay in power by his little voting booth bully squads but by having the support of the Zimbabwean military.

- Only happy soldiers support their commander in chief.

- Zimbabwean soldiers are anything else than happy at the moment.

- Zimbabwean soldiers cant be happy as they recieve less and less money. AND the money they still recieve looses worth every day since weeks.

- Zimbabwean soldiers cant feed their families anymore.

Result : Growing desertion and low duty morale.

Conclusion : The Zimbabwean military looses morale day by day and support for Mugabe drops with every single day in which he fails to improve the situation.

Support for people who offer convincing proposals rise.

The current situation in Zimbabwe is what will finish Mugabe off , there is no intervention from anyone necessary.

His own party members will already discuss what to do to stay in power.

And if that requires to shelve him and sit down on the table with the opposition to form a unity government.... they will do so.

First traces of that are already there.

Just wait a few months. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Maverick_U2007
07-24-2008, 02:38 PM
Celeon....<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Just wait a few months </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Hope you are right.

KLCaroll...<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> The World is a sick, sad place: ...And there are no easy answers.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE> I KNOW that you ARE right!!!

Maverick

Maverick_U2007
07-24-2008, 02:45 PM
Sometimes the NEWS can get to be a heavy subject...so...just to calm the mood...

NEWS....

Mr and Mrs Maverick did some gardening today and as a result here are further pictures of their garden!!!

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa216/Maverick-U2007/24072008015.jpg


http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa216/Maverick-U2007/24072008016.jpg

News update....my Back is killing me!!!!

Maverick

klcarroll
07-24-2008, 02:54 PM
@Maverick;

Your garden is really quite charming! ....My complements!

My wife puts considerable efforts into her gardening, ...so I am familiar with the work it entails. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

klcarroll

Realjambo
07-24-2008, 02:59 PM
Following a well informed and mature discussion, some excellent pictures of Maverick's quintessentially English garden to lighten proceedings - You should be proud of your hard wok there Maverick! Which way does the garden face on a compass?

I've heard that a glass of fine wine or premium lager does wonders for back ailments by the way - I think you have deserved a drink http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

I have a photo I took today to add. Public conveniences and a car park near to Jambo Towers continue to confuse drivers looking to park up and those in need of a toilet stop as to when exactly you can do both, or either, or neither at all! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v642/antsmith/FunnySign.jpg

Maverick_U2007
07-24-2008, 03:04 PM
The Cans of lager are indeed in the fridge and the ring pull should soon perform their solemn duty...to allow the 'amber nectar' to slip lovingly from the opening in the can to fill the cooled glass waiting below!!!!!

Thirsty NOW!!!!! BRB

Maverick

Maverick_U2007
07-24-2008, 03:11 PM
Am back.mmmmmmmmmm

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa216/Maverick-U2007/24072008021.jpg

Oh and the Garden faces SOUTH.......YES!!!!

Maverick

Celeon999
07-25-2008, 01:26 AM
Its true. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

You "Englδnder" really work on that lawn with a tweezer http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Thats a good looking garden http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Celeon999
07-25-2008, 10:48 AM
The sweet smell of fresh money http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif


Turkey orders six type 214 uboats worth $4 billion (http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=110522)

Never heard of MFI before.

The company is based in London but all the submarines and weapons they are involved in are german ones. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Marine Forces International (http://www.marineforce.net/developments.html)

Has the UK secretly become a tax oasis ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Kielhauler1961
07-25-2008, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by Celeon999: ...Never heard of MFI before.

They prefer to keep a low profile! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk295/kielhauler/history1.gif

Celeon999
07-25-2008, 01:52 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kielhauler1961:
Originally posted by Celeon999: ...Never heard of MFI before.

They prefer to keep a low profile! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk295/kielhauler/history1.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Submarines, missiles, desks , chairs and tables huh ? ... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Must be modeled after one of those korean multi-spectrum companies....

Like Daewoo : Cars, TVs , machine guns http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

klcarroll
07-25-2008, 03:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The company is based in London but all the submarines and weapons they are involved in are german ones. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Gee Celeon, ....haven't you ever heard of "drop shipments"???

klcarroll

Goose_Green
07-25-2008, 04:04 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kielhauler1961:
Originally posted by Celeon999: ...Never heard of MFI before.

They prefer to keep a low profile! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk295/kielhauler/history1.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah...but I'll bet the sale is still on http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Kielhauler1961
07-26-2008, 01:46 AM
@ Celeon:

The Turks do realise that each submarine will arrive as 8,437 seperate flat-packs that have to be self assembled? I'll bet they still end up with two screws and a slice of velcro left over... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Stop Press! First submarine is on it's way.
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk295/kielhauler/everest-porters-615365-sw1.jpg

Celeon999
07-26-2008, 04:07 AM
No problem, every uboat comes with a detailed and simple construction manual. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


- Danke vor schoosing a jermin uboot

- Ztep one : Take zkrews A-01 azwell az B-01 ....


http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/8431/planstype205mp9.gif

klcarroll
07-26-2008, 06:47 AM
If UBI had anything to do with those plans, the propeller will be turning the wrong way! (Ala SH4) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

klcarroll

andy3536
07-27-2008, 03:51 PM
Anybody seen the new Batman Movie yet?

It really is a must see, fantastic film.

Very well writen and Heath Ledger really does a fantastic job playing the joker.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd271/Andy3536/the-dark-knight-20080626110612646_6.jpg


http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd271/Andy3536/batmanposter7.jpg

Celeon999
07-28-2008, 01:19 AM
Not seen it yet but i heard that its very good.


Just seen that in the news

Grand Pier at Weston-super-Mare in flames (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/somerset/7528165.stm)


Forget the picture in the article , its completely burned down by now.

When i saw the first footages on tv, i said "Its already too large, extinguishing is pointless"

Seems that i was right http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Kielhauler1961
07-28-2008, 06:47 AM
Completely irrelevent I know, but what a great sign!
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk295/kielhauler/stealing_letters1.jpg

As for Weston-super-Mare, I've been there......once! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

JAMES3_645
07-28-2008, 10:22 AM
Thought I`d let you guys know that TESCO are selling DAS BOOT for £5(the original uncut version digitally remastered 4h42mins approx.).
Hope this helps someone get a copy.

James

Celeon999
07-28-2008, 11:08 AM
Thanks for the info and welcome to the forum http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


First A380 handed over to United Arab Emirates in Hamburg today.

Ah yes and they used this chance to order another 60 planes from Airbus. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Just €8.25 billion. ($13 billion) What a bargain..... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Article (http://www.dw-world.com/dw/article/0,2144,3518116,00.html)

http://www.dw-world.com/image/0,,3517984_1,00.jpg

JAMES3_645
07-28-2008, 11:52 AM
Thanks Celeon.
I have been looking for a copy of Das Boot for ages and finally got it at TESCO.
Very happy now.

James

Realjambo
07-28-2008, 04:23 PM
If you had the cash - would you fly Virgin Galactic? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7529978.stm)

PhantomKira
07-29-2008, 11:07 PM
With regards to the above, No Way!

And what the heck does the UAE need A380's for?

On a sidenote - When Airbus was trying to sell the thing, they happened upon something ingenious. They repainted the prototype aircraft every time they went someplace new, in the colors of the airline they were trying to sell to. Made the idea of ownership all the more believable.

Goose_Green
07-30-2008, 05:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JAMES3_645:
Thought I`d let you guys know that TESCO are selling DAS BOOT for £5(the original uncut version digitally remastered 4h42mins approx.).
Hope this helps someone get a copy.

James </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, I spotted that one too last week!! Mind you I paid £25 for it about 18 months ago, it's amazing how cheap DVD's are these days! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

klcarroll
07-30-2008, 07:12 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">....When Airbus was trying to sell the thing, they happened upon something ingenious. They repainted the prototype aircraft every time they went someplace new, in the colors of the airline they were trying to sell to. Made the idea of ownership all the more believable. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yup! ....In the Car Business, that's called "The Assumptive Close"! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

(You don't ask; "Do you want the car?" .....You ask; "What color would you like?".)

klcarroll

Celeon999
07-30-2008, 07:22 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">And what the heck does the UAE need A380's for? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


These are the Emirates baby ! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

They have as much money as there are sandcorns in the desert. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

"Need" is not important, but being able to say "We own fifthy-eight A380 ! So god will http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif " thats the whole point to them.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif (Yes they really ordered 58 of them !) Plus 60 other planes (A330 and A340) and also a lot from Boeing.

Seems that they plan to cover the whole middle east and lots of asia with their Etihad airways.

The Airbus managers had Euro signs in their eyes for weeks and made Kat-sching ! Kat-sching ! noises http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Celeon999
07-30-2008, 09:26 AM
Talking about Boeing... :


Luftwaffe becomes first customer of Boeing's new L-JDAM (http://boeing.com/news/releases/2008/q3/080724a_nr.html)

So the military machinery is rolling again ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

This can only mean one thing. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif


The "indefinitely postponed" but actually never cancelled "Operation Sealion" will soon finally kick off after the recent defeat of the D-Motor crew at the hands of the Top Gear boys. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

This or "zee Luftwaffe" just goes through some of their old and undone "To do" lists http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif


You will have to "..fight on the beaches, in the landing zones and streets, towns and cities...... and to pre-emptively take a german course...just in case" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Kielhauler1961
07-30-2008, 10:01 AM
Before his dastardley plan bears fruit, Celeon (a master of disguise) is swiftly apprehended by crack British troops... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk295/kielhauler/Dadsarmy1.jpg

In the interest of a "fair trial", HM Government appoint their best defence team.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk295/kielhauler/group-of-judges1.jpg

BTW, when the oil runs out in xx years and they get short of water (desalination plants have to have power too), I can see the tanker traffic heading the other way! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

Celeon999
07-30-2008, 02:40 PM
So zee Englδnder zhink zhey can get me zhat eazily ?

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif


http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/6746/klinkundschulz2ll4.jpg

Parabellum9x19
07-31-2008, 05:32 AM
You guys are killing me... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Celeon999
07-31-2008, 11:36 AM
As is said , tensions are rising. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

And now we have the first full scale political incident at hand. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

How will London react ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

Appeasement or Ultimatum ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif



British children banned from german-only playground on Crete resort (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/2474769/British-children-banned-from-German-only-playground-in-Crete-resort.html)



"Mum ! The hun wont let me play on the playground" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Seriously, i think the hotel is to blame for that. Its not that we've taken ground on Crete and are trying to hold it now. Again. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Its just the typical and obligatory british-german holiday battle http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

"You just cant put your towel on a beach lounger in the morning to reserve it for you in the afternoon you bloody Jerry" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

"Oh yez i can Englander ! I was hier first and zherefort zis is my lounjer now" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif



http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

klcarroll
07-31-2008, 01:06 PM
@Celeon;

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q84/klcarroll/socko45degwithHighStandard.jpg


Socko knows how to settle these beach chair disputes!! (..and quietly!)


klcarroll

Kielhauler1961
07-31-2008, 01:59 PM
British forces have discovered the escape tunnel constructed by Celeon. It stretches for hundreds of miles from London in the general direction of Berlin. With typical German thourghouness it includes washrooms, railway tracks (not shown), power and lighting. It was only found because a beach towel had been hung over the entrance. Eurotunnel have put in a bid for it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk295/kielhauler/26933725PCIMG_33932.jpg

Celeon999
08-02-2008, 05:48 AM
The SAS almost got me this time http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif


But once again Celeon was faster http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

Dont worry, my men have already begun excavating a new tunnel somewhere else http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif


http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/6879/lhc1nc4.jpg


Talking about tunnels and bunkers...

The nuclear bunker of Celeon's former government was just opened to the public.

Article with video (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7538611.stm)

Celeon999
08-02-2008, 01:18 PM
Instead of catching me, the brits are fully occupied with interrogating false suspects. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif


Gitmo is nothing against Blackadder's methods of interrogation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntdmf82nVfQ&feature=related) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

andy3536
08-02-2008, 01:45 PM
Lol, love that clip.

"I'm as English as the queen"

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif



On another note, it seems Michael Schumacher isn't such a good driver after all.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/7534890.stm

K_Freddie
08-02-2008, 02:27 PM
The ZA coast 'claims' two more...

They'll probably refloat these 2 at spring tide, but it'll be a mission. AFAIK the one boat had engine/propellor problems and the other tried to help it.
http://www.vanjast.com/Grounded/Boat001.jpg
http://www.vanjast.com/Grounded/Boat002.jpg
http://www.vanjast.com/Grounded/Boat003.jpg

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Celeon999
08-04-2008, 02:11 AM
A unique small "Stasi pub" named "the company" opened in Berlin recently. Just a few meters away from the former Stasi headquarters http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif



It has a surveillance camera and a sign over its entrance showing the official Stasi emblem with the words "Ministry of Listen and Look" which was a widespread mockingname for the "Ministry of state security" (Ministerium fόr <span class="ev_code_YELLOW">STA</span>ats <span class="ev_code_YELLOW">SI</span>cherheit) in former east-Germany, and the words : "Come to us, or we'll come to you".


If you should become a regular guest you get a identity card and a unique codename like the "informants" of the Stasi had which allows 10% discount on food and drinks. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

You get "original" east german food and the whole pub is full of funny references to east Germany and the cold war.

The two owners of the pub, Herr Gau and Herr Schmelz were once within the crosshair of the Stasi themselves.

Gau entered the socialist party for improving his chances to go to a university and was later thrown out for some "critic comments" on the leadership of the party.

He knows that a Stasi file about him was found but he does not want to read it.

"I dont want to read it. Back then, these things were dead serious but today i can laugh about it"

Schmelz, a former west-german from Bremen ,was curious and had a look into his file.

It seems that a short love affair, he once had with a east-german girl while he was working for a few months in Leipzig was enough to draw the attention of the Stasi on him.

"Maybe they thought i was a spy trying to establish contact or just suspected me of trying to take her with me to the west."


The owners, Mr.Gau (left) and Mr. Schmelz


http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/7069/01020125924400kl6.jpg


The building which was once the Stasi headquarters

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/764/01020125924800ka4.jpg

"Informant" identity card http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/6185/01020125943600bw9.jpg

Gau and Schmelz interrogating each other

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/142/01020125925000ym6.jpg

Messervy
08-04-2008, 06:48 AM
It's on my list for the next Berlin visit! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Celeon999
08-04-2008, 10:06 AM
Now its official.

Italy orders two more type 212 uboats (or CCXII if you prefer) which will be delivered in 2015 and 2016. Good choice http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

The boats will be delivered with special mountings above each crewman's bunk.....for the obligatory photo of "la Mamma" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/7040/03or7.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2023/11awv2.jpg

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/1716/17avg3.jpg

tuddley3
08-05-2008, 02:57 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by K_Freddie:
The ZA coast 'claims' two more...

They'll probably refloat these 2 at spring tide, but it'll be a mission. AFAIK the one boat had engine/propellor problems and the other tried to help it.
http://www.vanjast.com/Grounded/Boat001.jpg
http://www.vanjast.com/Grounded/Boat002.jpg
http://www.vanjast.com/Grounded/Boat003.jpg

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I've heard of beached whales, but that's crazy

Mittelwaechter
08-05-2008, 04:11 AM
SH3 live - beached after hunting in shallow waters.

M0ttie
08-06-2008, 01:54 PM
A des-res on the market...........
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/main.jhtml?xml=/pro...01/27/pbattle127.xml (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/main.jhtml?xml=/property/2008/01/27/pbattle127.xml)
A shed in the gardens going to be outside my affordable hovel limits me thinks but at least its not going to be allowed to fall down.

Wonder who gets the gate guard in the piccie?.

Realjambo
08-06-2008, 03:15 PM
Good link, Mottie! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

I've never seen a stained glass window like that before - I hope the builders don't just rip it out http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

VikingGrandad
08-07-2008, 01:36 AM
Good link - I'd hear of Bentley Priory but never seen picture of it before http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

I suppose it's better that it's converted into homes (retaining all the unique features) rather than left to fall into decline.


Here's a thought-provoking link:

80 more things that make men cry (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7544985.stm) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif Is that first suggestion yours RJ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Realjambo
08-07-2008, 02:50 AM
Another good link, VG!

The first one isn't me I have to say. Take a look at number 61 - That would do it for me!

That and when the poppies fall in silence at the Royal Albert Hall during the Remembrance - quite quite moving.

Messervy
08-07-2008, 03:43 AM
For me it would be:
65, 19, and 32 (only the reference to Paris Texas).

WilhelmSchulz.
08-08-2008, 08:59 AM
I made posted a vid WWII Colour photos on youtube.

BTW I the pics arent mine, I found the slideshow and just added the songs.

WWII Colour Photos of German Solders (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gnpjhg4rPXU)

WilhelmSchulz.
08-08-2008, 09:08 PM
Anyone have any info about the conflict in Soviet Georiga? I heard about it today during the Prade of Nations.

Celeon999
08-09-2008, 04:36 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WilhelmSchulz.:
Anyone have any info about the conflict in Soviet Georiga? I heard about it today during the Prade of Nations. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Its in the news everywhere. Just check Reuters or BBC.co.uk and other news channels.

People on youtube uploaded recordings of the news coverage. For instance : Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QwfayiH1pw)


Celeon denies any involvement in destabilisation efforts of that certain region..... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Any advantages resulting out of this for myself are by sheer chance. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

Messervy
08-09-2008, 05:35 AM
Perhaps those pesky Danes have something to do with it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Celeon999
08-09-2008, 06:42 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Messervy:
Perhaps those pesky Danes have something to do with it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


No. They have different plans http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> I heard about it today during the Prade of Nations. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


I found it funny that G.W didnt stand up when Guam came in.

I mean....he does know that he is the head of state of Guam doesnt he ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Secret service man : "Pssst.....Mr President.....psssst...sir....you have to stand up sir...." http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

G.W : "Huh ? Why ?" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

klcarroll
08-09-2008, 07:49 AM
I just hope that the World Community fully appreciates the loss they are going to suffer when G.W. Bush leaves office!!

I mean REALLY!!! .....Where is everyone going to go for that sort of enduring and novel "comedy relief" when "Dubya" is gone?????

It's just like the words from the Joni Mitchell song; "You don't know what you've got ˜till it's gone!"

klcarroll

Mittelwaechter
08-09-2008, 08:01 AM
In an encyclopedia you may find Bush close to Bugs Bunny but in global history you'll find him closer to some other sort of people. It depends on your objectivity...

Kielhauler1961
08-09-2008, 08:59 AM
It wouldn't surprise me one bit if China invaded both Russia and Georgia for taking the global spotlight off the Olympic Games just as they begin! They must be pretty hacked-off. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

VikingGrandad
08-09-2008, 09:17 AM
A few news links you might find interesting:

Teams study U-boats sunk off Outer Banks (http://www.inrich.com/cva/ric/news.apx.-content-articles-RTD-2008-08-01-0130.html)

Spitfire celebrates 70 years (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7540305.stm) (video)

You might remember the news a few months ago about the WW1 U-boat wreck that was going to be moved? Now it has: WWI wreck moved to protect ships (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/7528546.stm). Moving a wreck which is also war grave is controversial to say the least, but if the reason is to potentially prevent future loss of life, then it's difficult to argue against.

Model boat fans build their own nuclear submarine (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2522139/Model-boat-fans-build-their-own-nuclear-submarine.html) ("The men's next project will be re-creating a German U-boat which both of them can fit into.")

klcarroll
08-09-2008, 09:26 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">It depends on your objectivity... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Indeed it does! .....And "Objectivity" is a surprisingly rare commodity in discussions regarding International Politics!

Rest assured: ...Those of us who actually live in the U.S. are intimately familiar with "Dubya's" pros and cons; ....by virtue of the fact that our daily lives are directly impacted by the decisions made in Washington.

This creates a viewpoint that is sometimes subtly different than that held by the rest of the World, which relies on the "Objective" media for their data.

klcarroll

Kielhauler1961
08-09-2008, 09:56 AM
"In a democracy, dissent is an act of faith.".
(J. William Fulbright).

klcarroll
08-09-2008, 10:07 AM
In spite of my esteme for Mr. Fulbright, ...I would beg to change the quote to: ""In a democracy, dissent is an OBLIGATION!"

klcarroll

Celeon999
08-09-2008, 10:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VikingGrandad:
A few news links you might find interesting:

Teams study U-boats sunk off Outer Banks (http://www.inrich.com/cva/ric/news.apx.-content-articles-RTD-2008-08-01-0130.html)

Spitfire celebrates 70 years (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7540305.stm) (video)

You might remember the news a few months ago about the WW1 U-boat wreck that was going to be moved? Now it has: WWI wreck moved to protect ships (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/7528546.stm). Moving a wreck which is also war grave is controversial to say the least, but if the reason is to potentially prevent future loss of life, then it's difficult to argue against.

Model boat fans build their own nuclear submarine (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2522139/Model-boat-fans-build-their-own-nuclear-submarine.html) ("The men's next project will be re-creating a German U-boat which both of them can fit into.") </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Where did they got the required uranium from ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


As for Dubya, .. yes i gonna miss him a bit. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/8866/bush4mz5.jpg

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/5729/bush1oe4.jpg

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3110/bush3bh7.jpg

Celeon999
08-09-2008, 01:25 PM
Its a bit late but ive just found this :

WW1 grave troops to be reburied (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7534949.stm)

Maverick_U2007
08-09-2008, 02:08 PM
Hot off the Press!!!!!!

Main News....The Olympics Have Started.

Yes, just in case you have been living on the Planet Zog for the past days, the Beijing Olympics have started.

And if you are like me, they have already been on a day longer than is absolutely neccessary. Don't get me wrong I like Sport but this is like a toothache....it is always there and drives you nuts.

My idea...send the TV crews...let them film it all and condense it down to a 1 hour program when it is all over.

I WOULD watch that, I cannot be doing with all the drivel that the media produce with their complete dissection of every little bit of sport that takes place...and lets get it right..they are hoping that someone tests positive for drugs because that IS news.

How many days to go???

Maverick

Realjambo
08-09-2008, 02:34 PM
Personally I have mixed feelings about this Olympics that I shan't bore you with, but I have to agree with you Maverick that the Media must be crossing all their fingers and toes that a drugs ban comes up, especially with the British Parliament Holiday abound.

Aside from that of course, there is 'Best Olympics Coverage' when the TV Awards rolls round that they'll be going for.

I'm not knocking our dedicated athletes, far from it - good luck to them I say but as that old saying goes, which seems increasingly more applicable to the British effort in a lot of sporting fields - 'It wasn't the winning (because we don't) but the taking part that counted!' http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Maverick_U2007
08-09-2008, 03:07 PM
They have got something else to talk about at the moment...there have been 2 explosions in the northern part of China....hopefully it is a media over reaction to the following....

Mrs ji-jing-takeawye...was in the process of cooking Sweet and Sour Grasshopper and Chips (french fries) and left the 'fat' on for too long and it caught fire and exploded!!!.

Maverick

Still waiting for full report of 2nd explosion.

Maverick

K_Freddie
08-09-2008, 04:59 PM
Grounded boats update... high seas but no spring tides yet (another week or two)
http://www.vanjast.com/Grounded/Fish01.jpg
http://www.vanjast.com/Grounded/Fish02.jpg
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Goose_Green
08-09-2008, 05:34 PM
Great pictures Freddie, love the first one http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Kaleun1961
08-09-2008, 07:35 PM
Already some ****er has gone and killed an American visitor to the Olympics in the Worker's Paradise of Asia:

Relative of U.S. Coach Killed in Knife Attack (http://www.torontosun.com/Sports/Beijing2008/2008/08/09/6396511.html)

I like this part:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> The Americans were booed when they entered the stadium during the Olympic opening on Friday night.

Tension between the two countries strains the friendly faces of both their leaders when ever they meet "” including during the Olympic opening ceremonies
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, that's gratitude for you, after helping your country with Japanese invaders in WW2 and shipping tons of American jobs over there plus billions of dollars and preferred trading nation status; thanks, China. And I'm Canadian; I can only imagine how Americans must feel about this.

P.S. I didn't really swear, unless "Wayne Kerr" is a cuss word. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

klcarroll
08-09-2008, 09:20 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Yeah, that's gratitude for you, after helping your country with Japanese invaders in WW2 and shipping tons of American jobs over there plus billions of dollars and preferred trading nation status; thanks, China. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, to be absolutely candid, ...most U.S. citizens who are familiar with post-WWII history don't expect much gratitude from China.

Their current communist government remembers all to well the U.S. support for Chiang Kai-Shek, the Korean War, and the Viet Nam War. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Our current support for Taiwan is also something that won't get us any discounts on egg rolls in the near future.

All we can hope to do is to try not to make things any worse! We certainly don't need to be in a "Cold War" relationship with a Hard-Line Communist State that happens to control about 1/5th of Humanity! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

klcarroll

Celeon999
08-10-2008, 10:13 AM
Booom ! Cooling tower demolition in Germany today (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLw5s3QOQTk)

klcarroll
08-10-2008, 01:13 PM
Well, ...In spite of the current drive for "Political Correctness" in Germany, ...It's nice to see that you guys still like big explosions! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

klcarroll

Celeon999
08-10-2008, 01:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by klcarroll:
Well, ...In spite of the current drive for "Political Correctness" in Germany, ...It's nice to see that you guys still like big explosions! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

klcarroll </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Explosion is such a agressive and harsh word... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

We prefer to call this a sudden increase in volume and release of energy in an extreme manner , along with the generation of high temperatures and the release of gases.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

klcarroll
08-10-2008, 01:20 PM
Oh! ..........OK! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

klcarroll

Celeon999
08-10-2008, 01:44 PM
Several sudden increases in volume and release of energy in an extreme manner , along with the generation of high temperatures and the release of gases in Toronto, Canada


Video (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=62d_1218392848)


Single sudden increase in volume and release of energy in an extreme manner , along with the generation of high temperatures and the release of gases with clearly visible propagating disturbance of the atmosphere above Toronto, Canada (to avoid the harsh word shockwave http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif)

Video (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c0f_1218368226)

klcarroll
08-10-2008, 01:52 PM
Didn't Eric Clapton do a song called "Propane"??? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

klcarroll

Kaleun1961
08-10-2008, 02:10 PM
That's a short drive from where I live, just west of Toronto. Although traffic is bad on the highway through there, it would have been an absolute nightmare if it happened during the week. My family have just left to go camping for a week, but they'll be able to avoid that area. I'm just going to chill out in my bunker for a few days.

Kaleun1961
08-10-2008, 02:12 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Celeon999:
Booom ! Cooling tower demolition in Germany today (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLw5s3QOQTk) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Celeon, why was this demolition taking place? Was it a decommissioned nuclear reactor?

Kielhauler1961
08-10-2008, 02:14 PM
Quote...
"Single sudden increase in volume and release of energy in an extreme manner, along with the generation of high temperatures and the release of gases with clearly visible propogating disturbance of the atmosphere above Toronto..."

Foe-1 is due back on the day named after the now non-PC God Tew from an extra-national excursion by means of airborne levitation, having experienced and survived near-catastrophic levels of inundation by a liquid mixture of oxygen and hydrogen atoms.

Has anyone warned him? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Celeon999
08-10-2008, 02:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kaleun1961:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Celeon999:
Booom ! Cooling tower demolition in Germany today (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLw5s3QOQTk) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Celeon, why was this demolition taking place? Was it a decommissioned nuclear reactor? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


They were two of an overall of seven cooling towers belonging to a coal-fired power plant in Gelsenkirchen. It covers a whopping 2.9 % of Germany's overall power demand http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

The two towers were demolished as they were not needed anymore. Something new shall be build there.

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/885/scholvenpowerplantlf1.jpg

klcarroll
08-10-2008, 02:36 PM
Isn't it interesting to note that we have been conditioned to associate "Cooling Towers" with nuclear plants??

klcarroll

Celeon999
08-11-2008, 08:38 AM
Want to grow old ? Then dont block the road http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

BBC crew feels the Blitz (http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=9219993&ch=4226714&src=news)


Journalists in war zones. Who insures them ?

Ronin_32
08-11-2008, 10:48 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by klcarroll:
Isn't it interesting to note that we have been conditioned to associate "Cooling Towers" with nuclear plants??

klcarroll </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I always thought cooling towers were used soley for killing James Bond bad guys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuPl5BkjMIE&feature=related

klcarroll
08-11-2008, 11:37 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I always thought cooling towers were used soley for killing James Bond bad guys. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ummmmm.........., Errrrr....., ...That was a smokestack in that clip. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

klcarroll

Celeon999
08-11-2008, 11:56 AM
Better video of the demolition : LINK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx5QL9nF6IQ&feature=related)



Obviously, some local residents filled a few ballons with helium to get into a more suitable position. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Ronin_32
08-11-2008, 01:18 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by klcarroll:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I always thought cooling towers were used soley for killing James Bond bad guys. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ummmmm.........., Errrrr....., ...That was a smokestack in that clip. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

klcarroll </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Clearly a poor attempt at humour on my part, I shall withdraw to be at one with my shame.

klcarroll
08-11-2008, 01:27 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Clearly a poor attempt at humour on my part, I shall withdraw to be at one with my shame. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nooooo! ....Don't feel that way!!!

I have that Bond movie on tape, ...and I've always loved that intro! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

klcarroll

Celeon999
08-11-2008, 02:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ronin_32:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by klcarroll:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I always thought cooling towers were used soley for killing James Bond bad guys. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ummmmm.........., Errrrr....., ...That was a smokestack in that clip. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

klcarroll </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Clearly a poor attempt at humour on my part, I shall withdraw to be at one with my shame. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



Yes thats what happens when you dont have a private army in grey jumpsuits, construction worker helmets and mp40s guarding your secret underground base.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

This is world domination seeker basic knowledge for god's sake http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Blofeld was a bloody amateur http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

andy3536
08-11-2008, 02:18 PM
For those interested Gemma Atkinson will play one of the characters in the new command and comquer red alert game.

It's gonna be difficult to take her seriously dressed like this http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif


http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd271/Andy3536/RA3GemmaAtkinson_WP2_8x6.jpg

klcarroll
08-11-2008, 02:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Blofeld was a bloody amateur..... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

@Celeon;

OK! ....But just remember that Socko and I are watching you!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

World Domination may not prove to be as easy as you imagine!!http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

klcarroll

Kielhauler1961
08-11-2008, 04:59 PM
It's just come through from the BBC that Great Britain has won Olympic Gold & Bronze in women's swimming. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Like the late, lamented George Carlin, I thought swimming was just a way to keep from drowning?

I tuned into BBC News 24 for the latest on the Georgia-Russia conflict, just missed the headlines on the half hour and had to sit through 25 minutes of Olympics "news" before the real McCoy turned up. How much more of this torture is there!!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

I did catch the weather report: looks like the UK is in for another drenching Tuesday, so no change there then. It's "summer" after all.

WilhelmSchulz.
08-11-2008, 09:36 PM
I was watching Top gear and Hammond was testing the new Mazarati. But I nocited the music they had in the backround. IT WAS THE GWX MENU MUSIC! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Goose_Green
08-11-2008, 09:45 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WilhelmSchulz.:
I was watching Top gear and Hammond was testing the new Mazarati. But I nocited the music they had in the backround. IT WAS THE GWX MENU MUSIC! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The same music taken from the film "Romeo & Juliet" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

WilhelmSchulz.
08-12-2008, 12:01 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Goose_Green:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WilhelmSchulz.:
I was watching Top gear and Hammond was testing the new Mazarati. But I nocited the music they had in the backround. IT WAS THE GWX MENU MUSIC! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The same music taken from the film "Romeo & Juliet" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
But I dont like shakespear. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Celeon999
08-12-2008, 06:04 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I tuned into BBC News 24 for the latest on the Georgia-Russia conflict, just missed the headlines on the half hour and had to sit through 25 minutes of Olympics "news" before the real McCoy turned up. How much more of this torture is there!!!!! Mad </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


The news from Olympia hurt even more when you have to hear that the german team failed yet again. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Place 4 is not good enough http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

So far this is the wort result we ever had in any Olympic games. At least ONE single gold medal was earned today !

We've only achieved three medals, one bronze, silver and gold each.


The whole Russia-S Ossetia thing reminds me of Kosovo. Back then, it were the russians who were helplessly watching and turning : http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif


I bet the russian army recieved a similar welcome in South Ossetia. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif



http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/7151/00003557100061fi7.jpg

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/7008/00003557100071ct3.jpg


http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/5876/00003557110121uw4.jpg

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/3003/00003557490011nr5.jpg

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/5490/00003557490031jf1.jpg

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/960/00003557490041au7.jpg

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/8048/00003558770151zp8.jpg

Kielhauler1961
08-12-2008, 07:11 AM
Great pics Celeon http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif. That was your personal bodyguard kampfverbande I take it? It think its Bundeswehr designation is "Panzer-Stosstruppe 999".

Seeing that the "Lets send this comic book around the world" thread has re-surfaced, it reminded me of this little story that appeared in the British press today:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1043552/Gnome-S...adventure-world.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1043552/Gnome-Stolen-garden-elf-returned-7-month-adventure-world.html)

Gnome at Last...! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif As for the sense of humour of Gloucestershire Constabulary http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif Height of the Silly Seson over here. Worse to come.

Celeon999
08-12-2008, 07:57 AM
Lol, that gnome made quite a journey http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif


What did i say ? Just as i say how bad the german team is, they catch two more gold medals in a row http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">That was your personal bodyguard kampfverbande I take it? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



Yes, you can barely see them on the last pic. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

"Go on....look into cameras and smile....say how much you like us and want us to stay.." http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/237/rcken1db2.jpg http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/2968/rckenbk6.jpg

Celeon999
08-12-2008, 10:56 AM
The sailship of the german navy, the Gorch Fock will soon turn 50 ! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif


The new Gorch Fock was christened on 23. August 1958 by 14 year old Ulli Kinau, niece of the author Johann Wilhelm Kinau who fell in the battle of Skarerag on 31 May 1916, the biggest naval engagement in ww1 and one of the biggest in history.

(In the english speaking world known as the Battle of Jutland)

Battle of Jutland wikipedia article with some rare photos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_jutland)

Traditionally, all officer cadets of the german navy have to serve on her in order to recieve their commissions.

Aboard her, they learn the absolute basics of seafaring, navigation by use of the sun, the stars and mathematics aswell as hardness of life on the seas like in the old days without any computers, GPS or machines.

Just like all Kriegsmarine officers of world war two did on the old Gorch Fock which gets restaurated at the moment.

The Gorch Fock travelled an overall of 700.000 seamiles so far, which equals about 32 journeys around the earth. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif


Gorch Fock with her sister ship USCG Eagle (Former Horst Wessel)

http://www.marine.de/portal/PA_1_0_P3/PortalFiles/02DB070000000001/W27858VE770INFODE/260907_Segeln+mit+der+USCGS+EAGLE3_Christian+Hofma nn_640.jpg?yw_repository=youatweb


Special coin

http://www.marine.de/portal/PA_1_0_P3/PortalFiles/02DB070000000001/W27HBB77013INFODE/Muenze_640.gif?yw_repository=youatweb

Special stamp

http://www.marine.de/portal/PA_1_0_P3/PortalFiles/02DB070000000001/W27HBB4Y615INFODE/Sonderbriefmarke_640.gif?yw_repository=youatweb


http://www.marine.de/portal/PA_1_0_P3/PortalFiles/02DB070000000001/W27GTDMN724INFODE/GF2.jpg?yw_repository=youatweb


"ICEBERG AHEAD !!! ALL MACHINES EMERGENCY BACKWARDS !! " http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif


"We dont have any machines" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

http://www.marine.de/portal/PA_1_0_P3/PortalFiles/02DB070000000001/W27E6BX4389INFODE/GORCH+FOCK_1024x768.jpg?yw_repository=youatweb

K_Freddie
08-12-2008, 11:55 AM
Grounded fishing boats update.
Leftovers...
Making ships of metal makes them last longer..
http://www.vanjast.com/Grounded/Later01.jpg

Wooden boats just cannot last long, even in mild seas. Imagine what it was like in 'Ye olde days'
http://www.vanjast.com/Grounded/Later02.jpg
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Celeon999
08-13-2008, 08:50 AM
Thats a nice beach K_Freddie. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif


I bet swimming is fun there....except you get hit by a incoming fishing boat. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

BTW : Two more gold medals for Germany in fencing today http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/6971/49zj0.gif

Kielhauler1961
08-13-2008, 11:19 AM
Celeon,

If you keep mentioning the certain sporting waste of time/space/everything currently taking place in China, I'm going to sink the Admiral Hipper! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Ronin_32
08-13-2008, 12:07 PM
Jeez Freddie I thought that was out Saldhana way from your originsl pics, is that Blouberg???

Realjambo
08-13-2008, 12:19 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">fencing </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I've always fancied having a go at Fencing (The sport - not nailing fence panels to supports in the garden http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

There's something about that once noble art, and how it's evolved thanks to technology that now you can play and not get, well, killed frankly! Oh, and the face mask - sinister but cool in a way I can't really describe. Running around Jambo Towers with a flour sieve tied to my face and a bamboo cane in one's hand isn't quite the same http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

Anybody else look at the Olympics and think 'I quite fancy doing that?' (KH - Sorry, you'll have to avert your eyes for a few posts http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif )

Celeon999
08-13-2008, 12:59 PM
Its definitely a somewhat elegant sport. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif


The "deadly stab" into the heart of Ana Maria Branza from Romania by Britta Heidemann from Germany.

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2711/fencing1ai1.jpg

klcarroll
08-13-2008, 03:02 PM
Socko is anxiously waiting for the Olympic Committee to make "Barroom Gun fighting" an Olympic event!!!

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q84/klcarroll/SockoShoots.jpg

klcarroll

K_Freddie
08-13-2008, 04:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ronin_32:
Jeez Freddie I thought that was out Saldhana way from your originsl pics, is that Blouberg??? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just 1km north of Big Bay - Derde Steen. Been surfing there for 20+ years.

I'm a bit late for sunset so run in there, armed with camera, to take a few shots. They've sealed off the beach completely http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif Typical idiots and I cross the line to get a shot of the broken boat (as you can see there are people there already).
Out of the bush pops miss-national-parks-board-prissy and say I cannot go there.
I say why ? as people have been walking up and down these beaches for 1000's of years - AND it's my favourite surf spot. Besides I'd like to get a photo just like those people.
This prissy pratt - with a badge to prove her authority got upperty, so I went back, not without a menial comment.
Her reply was a character attack, and I then let her have it - about her bad image portrayal and hypocracy (the other camera people in the no-go zone)
Mannn, I was miffed at miss-stuffy, she prevented me from getting a nice picture... to show to you lot of course http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Well she's not going to be there for ever, so I'll get some shots of the metal one when it 'collapses'. It should get a beaing in 4-6 days with spring tides.

K_Freddie
08-13-2008, 05:00 PM
The Emperor's Codes by Michael Smith..
I've just read Station X (Bletchley Park) and started this book - These pages came as a big surprise... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
http://www.vanjast.com/NavalStuff/empcodes1.jpg
http://www.vanjast.com/NavalStuff/empcodes2.jpg

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

K_Freddie
08-13-2008, 05:59 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Celeon999:
Thats a nice beach K_Freddie. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
I bet swimming is fun there....except you get hit by a incoming fishing boat. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Talking about the beaches...
Has anybody walked on beach sand that 'squeaked' under their feet... if not, it happens here. I think it has something to do with the beachsand 'quality' http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
http://www.connect-123.com/images/gallery/12_big.jpg
http://www.cafedelmarcapetown.com/images/header/header_image.jpg
http://www.cairnsunlimited.com/images/i/legs_on_the_beach.jpg
http://www.clevelandleader.com/files/roxy-luaw.jpg
http://img6.travelblog.org/Photos/48523/252726/t/2051352-Sunset-at-Clifton-Beach-0.jpg

To tell the truth.. these pics are of second rate beaches.. the best are actually up the west coast, but we 'tell' nothing of this.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

K_Freddie
08-13-2008, 06:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by klcarroll:
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q84/klcarroll/SockoShoots.jpg
klcarroll </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I think Socko should not intentionally and willfully point said weapon towards tastefully bottled 'relaxa-juice' as this would be 'crimen-injuria' on the 'likes of me and the rest'
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

WilhelmSchulz.
08-13-2008, 10:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Celeon999:
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/7008/00003557100071ct3.jpg
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Whats a german Tank Doing in Geroga?

Goose_Green
08-13-2008, 10:57 PM
I believe that's a German tank in Kosovo, the only things that gives it away is the KFOR (Kosovo Force) stamped on it's ***, plus the sign post for Pristina http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

WilhelmSchulz.
08-13-2008, 11:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Goose_Green:
I believe that's a German tank in Kosovo, the only things that gives it away is the KFOR (Kosovo Force) stamped on it's ***, plus the sign post for Pristina http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Sorry I saw crylic writing and thought it was Georgia

Ronin_32
08-14-2008, 01:17 AM
Freddie,I got engaged on this beach, know which one it is?

http://www.michaelsowa.co.uk/photos/CapeTown/m8.jpg

Celeon999
08-14-2008, 01:44 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WilhelmSchulz.:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Goose_Green:
I believe that's a German tank in Kosovo, the only things that gives it away is the KFOR (Kosovo Force) stamped on it's ***, plus the sign post for Pristina http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Sorry I saw crylic writing and thought it was Georgia </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Pristina is the largest city in Kosovo.

Not to be mistaken for Prizren which is much smaller and in the south. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2120/ut00000272ua2.jpg

http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/6272/kfor0101pu6.jpg

K_Freddie
08-14-2008, 01:53 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ronin_32:
Freddie,I got engaged on this beach, know which one it is?
http://www.michaelsowa.co.uk/photos/CapeTown/m8.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
LLANDUDNO... Those foreground rock are a dead giveaway http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Realjambo
08-15-2008, 02:17 AM
Beaches? RJ had the pleasure of staying here for two weeks some years ago - Olu Deniz in Turkey - allegedly the 3rd or 4th best beach in the world.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v642/antsmith/olu_deniz.jpg

Mittelwaechter
08-15-2008, 04:26 AM
http://www.cheapholidayspider.co.uk/images/barbados/bottom-bay-barbados.jpg
Bottom Bay - Barbados

My perfect beach!

Realjambo
08-17-2008, 03:03 AM
@ Celeon! Hey! You need to win a few more medals! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

In which events do you predict this short fall may be addressed? (So I can tune in!)

Somehow we've ended up 3rd overall in the medals table?

*Orders the flags raised at Jambo Towers*

Celeon999
08-17-2008, 04:16 AM
Yes its true , Britian overtook us and we're now on place four. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif


Oh this humiliation ! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Thats it ! You've stole our "place at the sun" like Kaiser Wilhelm said.... AGAIN ! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

This will have the usual consequences ...http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif


Celeon orders the immidiate seizure of all beach loungers http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Providing free "Reichs football towels" to every german tourist world-wide. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

The three stars will remind the british tourists how often Germany won the football world cup....compared to England's one lonely star http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

http://www.subsidesports.de/de/images/product/large/GermanyTowel0708.gif


Unless we earn some more gold medals in the coming days http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Did you know that we've reached the table tennis finals after defeating Japan in the half finals ?

As a non-asian country, this is a little sensation http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Realjambo
08-17-2008, 04:44 AM
Good luck in your 'Ping Pong' http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Seriously, good effort - that must have been quite an upset for the Japan!

Sports minister Gerry Sutcliffe has told the BBC "it is vital" that Team GB reaches the target of 41 medals from the Beijing Olympics.

"That is a serious target," said Sutcliffe. "We want it to be achieved."

But BBC Sport research and statistics from the former head of the Italian Olympic Committee, Luciano Barra, suggest GB should exceed that goal.

.... Do 'Team Germany' have a medals target, Celeon? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif *whistles*

klcarroll
08-17-2008, 04:54 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Thats it ! You've stole our "place at the sun" like Kaiser Wilhelm said.... AGAIN !

This will have the usual consequences ... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh No!! ....You don't mean..... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=cPYzRYMBVW0


klcarroll

Celeon999
08-17-2008, 05:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> .... Do 'Team Germany' have a medals target, Celeon? Angel *whistles*

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, just add at least one above your target http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">

Oh No!! ....You don't mean..... Eek Eek Eek

http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=cPYzRYMBVW0


klcarroll

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Celeon would like to take this chance to, ..in full compliance with political correctness,...distance himself from the song text "today Germany, tomorrow the world" ... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif .... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif


Instead he issues a new hymn to the german Olympia team which he often sung in his old conscript days http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

LINK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky-zdHMNFNM)

andy3536
08-17-2008, 05:33 AM
Think the Russians have been watching Kellys Heroes.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1563317.ece

Realjambo
08-17-2008, 05:47 AM
Just for Celeon... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSq8ZBdSxNU) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Kielhauler1961
08-17-2008, 05:53 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Celeon999:
Celeon orders the immidiate seizure of all beach loungers http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Gordon Brown has just announced a four-hundred percent increase in Britain's production of beach chairs to cope with the sudden, and unexpected, global shortage. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Realjambo
08-17-2008, 06:07 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kielhauler1961:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Celeon999:
Celeon orders the immidiate seizure of all beach loungers http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Gordon Brown has just announced a four-hundred percent increase in Britain's production of beach chairs to cope with the sudden, and unexpected, global shortage. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

.... And in doing so, ensures gainful employment for beach chair manufacturers - safeguarding at least one area of UK industry

Cheers Celeon! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Mittelwaechter
08-17-2008, 06:53 AM
No one needs a screensaver, but this (http://www.simonheys.com/wordclock/) clock is really cool.

andy3536
08-17-2008, 07:19 AM
Bring up the subject of screensaver i've just changed mine to Tropic Thunder.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd271/Andy3536/screensaver.jpg

andy3536
08-17-2008, 01:35 PM
See this in another forum, it's got to be the most coolest gadget of no use the world has seen. The Sony Rolly, an MP3 player with speakers that 'dances' to what it's playing.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0XcOgFdH5bY&feature=related

Celeon999
08-18-2008, 07:08 AM
Some people have luck : http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Couple rescued from plane stuck in bavarian power lines (http://www.thelocal.de/13757/20080818/)

Messervy
08-18-2008, 10:59 AM
Something incredible has happened.
With yesterday's gold medal in hammer throw Slovenia launched itself into the lead in the following classification.

Medals per capita:
1. Slovenia (4 medals) - 501,927
2. Armenia (5) - 593,717
3. Jamaica (4) - 701,083
4. Australia (29) - 710,374
5. New Zealand (5) - 834,692
6. Belarus (10) - 968,576
7. Trinidad and Tobago (1) - 1,047,366
8. Norway (4) - 1,161,114
9. Estonia (1) - 1,307,605
10. Slovakia (4) - 1,311,187
...
25. United kingdom (25) - 2,437,756
26. France (25) - 2,562,311
35. Germany (21) - 3,922,359
40. USA (65) - 4,674,225
41. Canada (7) - 4,744,670
44. Japan (20) - 6,364,420
46. Spain (6) - 6,748,508
56. China (61) - 21,804,010

Realjambo
08-18-2008, 11:10 AM
Go Slovenia! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

Celeon999
08-18-2008, 11:27 AM
Ostfront !


Ostfront for most of the german olympic team. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

- Defeat in water polo at the hands of ze Amerikaner

- Only silver in table tennis against China

- Football women defeated by Brazil

What a day http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

They should better look for some warm clothes....where they will go once they've arrived back here is not a place in which suncream is needed... SO MUCH IS CERTAIN ! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

Messervy
08-18-2008, 11:43 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Celeon999:
Ostfront !


Ostfront for most of the german olympic team. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Realjambo
08-18-2008, 02:16 PM
Something completely different.

Jambo Towers was visited by the Fire & Rescue Service today. No, RJ wasn't fitting new kit into his PC!

We had signed up for a free Home Fire Safety Check when we were Here (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/857101043/m/8801003866?r=8801003866#8801003866) and I'd recommend other forum members in the UK who's services offer the same to take them up on it.

I expected a little white van to draw up, but oh no! A fully equipped and working fire tender arrived - which the Jambino's went banana's over! - and following a tour of the property they advised on night time escape routes in the event of a fire which to be honest I thought I had already worked out but they were able to point out hidden dangers and opportunities - for example, better to jump from a balcony onto the Bentley parked below as that will cushion the landing much more than hitting the paved driveway and it's less of a fall.

We have smoke detectors but they bought some along for free anyway, and installed batteries designed to last for ten years into them - for free.

It might sound like teaching people to suck eggs, but some of what they said hit home and I was very impressed. If you can get a check, do so, what have you to lose?

... Quite a lot actually!

Carry on!

klcarroll
08-18-2008, 03:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">for example, better to jump from a balcony onto the Bentley parked below as that will cushion the landing much more than hitting the paved driveway and it's less of a fall. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Socko agrees!!! ....ALWAYS jump on a Bentley if the opportunity presents itself!! ....The dents that result are such high quality dents!

klcarroll

Mittelwaechter
08-19-2008, 12:53 AM
Mech-Animation 3D called World War (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYFbiuGcXew) by Vincent Chai

Celeon999
08-19-2008, 07:12 AM
Finally http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

The strongest man in the world earns gold for the fatherland in wheightlifting. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif


2 Weeks of Fronturlaub for Matthias Steiner http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif


258 kilograms (567.6 Lbs) , beating Russia's Evgeni Chigishev by just one kilogram .... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif ...

Victory.... on the Ostfront.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif How could this be sweeter ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


EDIT : I think his victory celebration surprised the reticent chinese officials a bit http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Steiner freaks out (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-dMH15Pd0I)


http://imagesx.sports.cn/Image/2008/01/23/2231449260.jpg http://img09.beijing2008.cn/20080819/Img214563897.jpg

Picture of his wife who died in a car accident two years ago

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,1275570,00.jpg

VikingGrandad
08-20-2008, 04:36 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Realjambo:
We had signed up for a free Home Fire Safety Check when we were Here (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/857101043/m/8801003866?r=8801003866#8801003866) and I'd recommend other forum members in the UK who's services offer the same to take them up on it.

I expected a little white van to draw up, but oh no! A fully equipped and working fire tender arrived - which the Jambino's went banana's over! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good tip RJ - I had no idea about that free fire safety check.

I can relate to the Jambinos' excitement - I absolutely loved fire trucks when I was a little kid (although at the time I was convinced that their job was actually to set things on fire...!). I'm sure they'll never forget that momentous day! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mittelwaechter:
Mech-Animation 3D called World War (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYFbiuGcXew) by Vincent Chai </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Very impressive, especially for a student. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif



Here's another WW2-related news story some of you might like to read:

World War II veteran takes one more turn at the controls of a B-24 Liberator (http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08232/905299-85.stm)

(I'd never heard of the 'Carpetbaggers (http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=1502)' before.)

VikingGrandad
08-20-2008, 03:12 PM
http://www.tribute.ca/tribute_objects/images/movies/Passchendaele/poster_lg.jpg

I think I may have previously posted something about the forthcoming Canadian WW1 film, 'Passchendaele'. There's a new high quality trailer at the official website:

http://www.passchendaelethemovie.com/

Ignoring the Hollywood-style voiceover on the trailer, I think it looks like a good movie. Obviously, there's a romantic story to it, but I'm sure that will be more of a sub-plot.

The release date is Remembrance Day, 11 November, 2008. Not sure if that's just Canada or other countries too.

From Wikipedia:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">
The film was inspired by Gross's relationship with his grandfather; like many veterans, he was reticent about sharing his experiences with his family. In a rare conversation on a fishing trip, Dunne told the story of bayonetting a young German through the face and killing him during a battle. A long time later, as Dunne lay in hospital bed in the last days of his life, his family was mystified by Dunne's behaviour, asking forgiveness over and over. Only Gross knew that he was speaking to the young German he had killed in the First World War.

"He went completely out of his mind at the end. He started telling me about a hideous event that happened during a skirmish in a little ruined town in World War I. He'd killed someone in a miserable, horrible way and that had obviously haunted him throughout the rest of his life. As my grandfather died, in his mind he was back in that town, trying to find a German boy whom he'd bayonetted in the forehead. He'd lived with that memory all his life - and he was of a time when people kept things to themselves. When he finally told the story, it really affected me and I've not been able to get it out of my head." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://www.passchendaelethemovie.com/downloads/2_sm.jpg


Before and after the battle - aerial photos of Passchendaele, Ypres, Belgium:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c8/Passchendaele_aerial_view.jpg



@ Celeon - have you seen the 'Der Rote Baron' movie yet? I think it was released some time ago in Germany.

Realjambo
08-20-2008, 03:59 PM
Thanks for the tip off VG!

I must say the before and after photo's of Passchendaele are quite staggering! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Celeon999
08-21-2008, 02:05 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">@ Celeon - have you seen the 'Der Rote Baron' movie yet? I think it was released some time ago in Germany. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



No, i wasnt very keen to watch it after reading the reviews. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Cheesy and hard to believe story, cliche-ridden,weak dialogues and a very implausable Richthofen who suddenly questions the war and his doings near the end for dramatic effect.


It was often compared to Pearl Harbor, that should say it all. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

But it seems that Tom Cruise really liked it. That alone was enough for many Berliners not to watch it at all. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Realjambo
08-21-2008, 02:58 AM
Any one lost their Monkey? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7572113.stm)

I just hope they don't end up shooting it! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif Keep on running lil' fella! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Celeon999
08-21-2008, 10:04 AM
Former Luftwaffe pilot crashes in Britain (http://www.dw-world.com/dw/article/0,2144,3547881,00.html)

Is it normal that local people ransack your plane once you crash somewhere in Britain ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Thats like Somalia !

Give these people something to eat for god's sake ! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Kielhauler1961
08-21-2008, 11:16 AM
It was rumoured that the plane was carrying 50kgs of Cervelat. When the locals discovered this wasn't true, the sat-nat was their compensation. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Realjambo
08-21-2008, 04:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Cervelat </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Congrats on 300 posts KH. Personally I prefer Polish sausage, especially 'Hunters Sausage'.

Anyone needing a 'favour' from a Ubi Moderator knows what to send me now! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Goose_Green
08-22-2008, 12:10 AM
Found this snippet of news from the UK MOD website

Lancaster Bomber sends warship off in style (http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/DefenceNews/MilitaryOperations/LancasterBomberSendsWarshipOffInStyle.htm)

Realjambo
08-22-2008, 01:03 AM
Interesting link, Goose!

I came across this - Celeon! They found your Secret Scottish Hideout! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/tayside_and_central/7574619.stm) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

klcarroll
08-22-2008, 01:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Is it normal that local people ransack your plane once you crash somewhere in Britain ? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Only German planes: ....It's a local tradition that goes back more than 68 years! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

klcarroll

Kielhauler1961
08-22-2008, 04:26 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">
Only German planes: ....It's a local tradition that goes back more than 68 years! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

At the very least, he should have chosen something a bit less conspicous...
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk295/kielhauler/121.jpg

Ronin_32
08-22-2008, 05:45 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Realjambo:
Interesting link, Goose!

I came across this - Celeon! They found your Secret Scottish Hideout! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/tayside_and_central/7574619.stm) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I found Celeon's Island, it has just declared independence from Britain.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUKL2122665620080623

VikingGrandad
08-22-2008, 06:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Celeon999:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">@ Celeon - have you seen the 'Der Rote Baron' movie yet? I think it was released some time ago in Germany. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



No, i wasnt very keen to watch it after reading the reviews. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Cheesy and hard to believe story, cliche-ridden,weak dialogues and a very implausable Richthofen who suddenly questions the war and his doings near the end for dramatic effect.


It was often compared to Pearl Harbor, that should say it all. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

But it seems that Tom Cruise really liked it. That alone was enough for many Berliners not to watch it at all. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thank you for your comprehensive answer Celeon! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I'll scratch that one off my list. Shame that they wasted the opportunity to make a great historical film about one of the most famous ever pilots. This film could have been the next 'Das Boot'.

VikingGrandad
08-22-2008, 07:07 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Celeon999:
Former Luftwaffe pilot crashes in Britain (http://www.dw-world.com/dw/article/0,2144,3547881,00.html) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That story about the German pilot apologising to the people of Bath was unusual enough, but the same 88 year old Luftwaffe bomber pilot crashing on UK soil, near Bath, is totally bizarre! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif I wonder why was he flying in a plane over Bath?

Celeon999
08-22-2008, 07:22 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I wonder why was he flying in a plane over Bath? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



Humanitarian mission. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Ronin_32
08-22-2008, 12:02 PM
It is official, Britain has a new champion in the Dumbest Burglar category. I think this guy has a chance at Gold in London 2012.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1048026/Picture...tims-bay-window.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1048026/Pictured-The-burglar-left-dangling-shoelaces-victims-bay-window.html)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/08/22/article-1048026-0261856100000578-657_468x628_popup.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/08/22/article-1048026-0261E61200000578-963_468x443.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/08/22/article-1048026-0261E60F00000578-862_468x387.jpg

andy3536
08-22-2008, 12:56 PM
Love the burglar story http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


In France it seems if your drunk, you can't supervise a blind person to take your place behind the wheel, who'd have thought it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/afp/20080822/tod-france-transp...offbeat-7f81b96.html (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/afp/20080822/tod-france-transport-offbeat-7f81b96.html)

Celeon999
08-23-2008, 09:04 AM
Lol

I bet he was very lucky that at least his face wasnt visible to the journalists.

That must have been the most embarrassing moment in his life.


Talking about people doing things with their legs :


Taekwondo match for the bronze medal in Beiijing.

Angel Valodia Matos from Cuba against Arman Tschilmanow from Kazakhstan.

Matos , who leads the match by points recieves a foot injury and has to sit down for a moment.

One moment too long as he exceeded his granted pause time resulting in disqualification by referee Chakir Chelbat.

Matos is so ****ed that he kicks the referee ... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,1280229,00.jpg


... and has to be stopped by officials

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,1280096,00.jpg

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,1280100,00.jpg

A bloody lip that will have serious consequences for Matos's career including a life time ban from all international Taekwondo events including the Olympic Games.

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,1280085,00.jpg

andy3536
08-23-2008, 12:40 PM
Hmm, What a wally!

Realjambo
08-23-2008, 12:41 PM
Now for something completely different.

Here is a quote, who can guess which classic children's toy it is about....

I had to laugh at a thread entitled 'I ****ing HATE MR. [Name Removed]' on a forum of Mrs. Jambo's (I let her near the PC occasionally) This thread, no joke, runs for pages about which of their children's toys they hate the most! I'm not knocking 'Mums' out there, but surely it's bad karma to hate your child's favourite toy to this extent? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

"There's bits of him all over my house. Little bits that get everywhere, In the bath, in my bedroom, the living room. He's not even funny or imaginative. I've put up with him for TWO YEARS and today when I tried to put him and all his body parts in the bin Owen rescued him and scattered him all over the house once again.

DIE DIE DIE Mr. [name removed]!"

VikingGrandad
08-23-2008, 02:47 PM
@ Celeon

Ouch! That must have hurt. When I first saw that photo of the kick (before reading the post), I thought, "Eh? Why on earth is his opponent wearing a tie?!" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif


@RJ

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Taken out of context, that quote sounds like it was written by a psychopath! As you say, strong words over a mere child's toy!!

EDIT - Was the toy Mr Potato Head?

Another forthcoming war film which looks like it might be worth watching:

Miracle at St. Anna (http://miracleatstanna.movies.go.com/)

Not a true story, but apparently inspired by the Sant'Anna di Stazzema massacre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sant%27Anna_di_Stazzema_massacre).

Realjambo
08-24-2008, 02:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Was the toy Mr Potato Head? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Correct VG! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

I liked this cartoon of him, whilst I was searching for a decent photo of said toy. I'd photo the Jambino's one but it is indeed scattered all over Jambo Towers!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v642/antsmith/mly0804l.jpg

Kielhauler1961
08-24-2008, 05:42 PM
Radioman: "The Olympics have finished, sir."

"Blow ballast, surface the boat."

The crew lie sprawling on the deck, gasping for air. Two weeks at 300 metres has almost pushed them over the edge.

"I'm picking up signals from BBC London, sir.. Crystal Palace 0 - Reading 0."

"Oh no! The new football season has started..!"

Crash dive!

VikingGrandad
08-25-2008, 03:39 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Celeon999
08-25-2008, 05:33 AM
The grey Wolves are back ! (http://www.dw-world.com/dw/article/0,2144,3591266,00.html) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

WilhelmSchulz.
08-25-2008, 09:01 AM
Just for you Celeon.
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f167/Hitokiri1849/Motivational%20Posters/Finland.jpg

Celeon999
08-25-2008, 09:27 AM
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/6941/248886406ocr2.jpg

Realjambo
08-25-2008, 09:45 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Celeon999:
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/6941/248886406ocr2.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Is that the silent film actor Buster Keaton holding the machine gun, Celeon? Used to love his films when I was a kid http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Celeon999
08-25-2008, 10:29 AM
Yes he is http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Kielhauler1961
08-25-2008, 04:36 PM
Don't think anybody got hurt in this:

Plane on fire at Munich Airport. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7581412.stm)

Ronin_32
08-26-2008, 04:14 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kielhauler1961:
Don't think anybody got hurt in this:

Plane on fire at Munich Airport. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7581412.stm) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Where was Celeon at the time?

Celeon999
08-26-2008, 05:19 AM
Celeon is not responsible for this...

But for this http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blush.gif : LINK (http://www.thelocal.de/13841/20080821/)

Celeon999
08-27-2008, 08:15 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Article (http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,574723,00.html)

Realjambo
08-27-2008, 02:08 PM
This made me chuckle - Bank changes customer's chosen password from 'LLoyds is pants' to 'No it's not' http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

I read somewhere that Statistics say we have, what is it now? 8 passwords and 4 pin numbers on a daily basis to remember?

Lloyds is pants (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hereford/worcs/7585098.stm)

andy3536
08-27-2008, 02:24 PM
Velvet Assassin, any one posted about this before? It seems familiar.

The game is loosly based on the life of Violette Szabo.

Tells quit a story.


http://www.videogamer.com/pc/velvet_assassin/preview-1167.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violette_Szabo

Celeon999
08-28-2008, 04:38 AM
Ramstein airshow disaster was today exactly 20 years ago. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Documentary about the disaster (in english) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfV5NL3sKzI&feature=related)

Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwVYcCRr4Pc&feature=related)


Ramstein Air Base wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramstein_Air_Base)

Ronin_32
08-28-2008, 06:15 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Realjambo:
This made me chuckle - Bank changes customer's chosen password from 'LLoyds is pants' to 'No it's not' http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

I read somewhere that Statistics say we have, what is it now? 8 passwords and 4 pin numbers on a daily basis to remember?

Lloyds is pants (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hereford/worcs/7585098.stm) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

My mother was allowed by Lloyds to go 3 pounds into the negative and she was then hit with 25 pounds per day in overdraft fees. She was abroad at the time and has now been hit with a 125.00 pound fee. This 150.00 fee was charged in one go and that has taken her again into the negative and she was again being charged 25 pounds per day that she was over.

Banks suck.

VikingGrandad
08-28-2008, 06:36 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Celeon999:
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Article (http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,574723,00.html) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's great news. I'd love to drive over that bridge some day!

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by andy3536:
Velvet Assassin, any one posted about this before? It seems familiar.

The game is loosly based on the life of Violette Szabo.

Tells quit a story.


http://www.videogamer.com/pc/velvet_assassin/preview-1167.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violette_Szabo </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The game used to be called 'Sabotage 1943', but they changed the name to Velvet Assassin more recently. It's been under development for several years! At one point it looked like it wouldn't be released, but I'm glad they decided to stick with it as I think it will be a great game.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ronin_32:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Realjambo:
This made me chuckle - Bank changes customer's chosen password from 'LLoyds is pants' to 'No it's not' http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

I read somewhere that Statistics say we have, what is it now? 8 passwords and 4 pin numbers on a daily basis to remember?

Lloyds is pants (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hereford/worcs/7585098.stm) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

My mother was allowed by Lloyds to go 3 pounds into the negative and she was then hit with 25 pounds per day in overdraft fees. She was abroad at the time and has now been hit with a 125.00 pound fee. This 150.00 fee was charged in one go and that has taken her again into the negative and she was again being charged 25 pounds per day that she was over.

Banks suck. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ronin_32, tell your mother to check out this web page - she might be able to claim back the charges http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/reclaim/bank-charges

Ronin_32
08-28-2008, 08:32 AM
Thanks Viking that is a big help.

Celeon999
08-28-2008, 09:49 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The game used to be called 'Sabotage 1943', but they changed the name to Velvet Assassin more recently. It's been under development for several years! At one point it looked like it wouldn't be released, but I'm glad they decided to stick with it as I think it will be a great game. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Thanks for the clarification. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I saw Velvet assassin and thought "Wasnt there a similar game mentioned by someone in the SH3 forum ? But its name was not Velvet Assassin http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif "

Realjambo
08-29-2008, 02:21 AM
Friday Fun! Some of you may have seen this before, but nevertheless!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v642/antsmith/wivesforsale-1.jpg

Goose_Green
08-29-2008, 03:17 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Seen the ad before, but still very funny!!

Here is one I found on the BBC News website;

British Army goes virtual (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7587238.stm)

And more news from the Royal Navy's newest Type 45 Daring class destroyer. It seems that they are going to put a 155mm howitzer style gun on it!

Royal Navy prepares to roll out the big guns (http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/DefenceNews/EquipmentAndLogistics/RoyalNavyPreparesToRollOutTheBigGuns.htm)

And some more news from the UK MoD;

Veteran relives historic WWII raid on the Tirpitz (http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/DefenceNews/HistoryAndHonour/VeteranRelivesHistoricWwiiRaid.htm)

Ronin_32
09-01-2008, 05:13 AM
Has anybody noticed the hottie that McCain chose as his running mate? She has a librarian thing going on there. And McCain was caught checking her out during her introduction.

Watch this vid it made me LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qUVQDmLf7s&eurl=http://..._palin-83902-10.html (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qUVQDmLf7s&eurl=http://www.letsgokings.com/bbs/f12/mccain_palin-83902-10.html)

Kielhauler1961
09-01-2008, 10:29 AM
"Dang!"
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk295/kielhauler/F-1820Hornet20Sidewinder20ND2011.jpg

"Fox Two!"
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk295/kielhauler/F-1820Hornet20Sidewinder20ND2021.jpg

Ronin_32
09-01-2008, 12:07 PM
Any background to that Kielhauler?

Kielhauler1961
09-01-2008, 12:32 PM
Just came across it while trawling the 'net. The caption only states "accidental release of a Sidewinder missile aboard a U.S. carrier."

It says that it took place during summer exercises last year but doesn't give the name of the ship or indicate whether the plane was taking-off or landing.

I think the aircraft is an F-18 Hornet but I'm sure our learned cousins from 'across the pond' will be able to confirm or deny this.

Goose_Green
09-01-2008, 12:47 PM
I think the photos of the Hornet releasing the AIM-9 Sidewinder are quite old - definately older than last year, I'm sure I've seen them floating about the net for some time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Meanwhile, in the news today Top Gear launch their live world tour onboard a tank, see the video here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7592440.stm)

Celeon999
09-02-2008, 04:23 AM
I think its time again : http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif


Dont say you had no idea that german humor had something to do with people getting hurt. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Forklift driver Klaus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22ehEhZ9A68)

Celeon999
09-03-2008, 02:27 AM
Wednesday next week is "Big Bang Day" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Have you heard the Large Hadron Collider Rap already ?

It was written by particle physicists of CERN to help you understand what will be done http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Large Hadron Rap (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j50ZssEojtM)

Realjambo
09-03-2008, 03:50 AM
"I have to tell you now that no such undertaking has been received and consequently this country is at war with Germany."

September 3rd 1939 - On This Day... (http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/september/3/newsid_3493000/3493279.stm)

Ronin_32
09-03-2008, 04:02 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Realjambo:
"I have to tell you now that no such undertaking has been received and consequently this country is at war with Germany."

September 3rd 1939 - On This Day... (http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/september/3/newsid_3493000/3493279.stm) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You just had to mention it.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/03_02/cleeseDM2803_468x665.jpg

Realjambo
09-03-2008, 04:05 AM
Classic television, Ronin_32 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Celeon999
09-03-2008, 04:07 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Realjambo:
"I have to tell you now that no such undertaking has been received and consequently this country is at war with Germany."

September 3rd 1939 - On This Day... (http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/september/3/newsid_3493000/3493279.stm) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Celeon recently uploaded a old columbia radio broadcast which contains a live report from Trafalgar Square in London during an air-raid alert in 1940.

You can hear the sirens howling and a reporter describes what he hears and sees.

LINK (http://files.filefront.com/19400824+brit+Bombers+ovnmp3/;11668706;/fileinfo.html)

Kielhauler1961
09-03-2008, 04:07 PM
Curses! Delayed again. My travel insurance company want another £80 and a written agreement not to get shot by the Thai army...

Anti-government demonstrations in Bangkok are a daily occurrence. One person has already been killed and several injured. A 'state of emergency' has been declared and the army called-in to patrol the streets. Not looking good.
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk295/kielhauler/1_61_062008_thailand_protests11.jpg

Bangkok Post main page (http://www.bangkokpost.com/)

Realjambo
09-04-2008, 01:32 AM
@ Celeon! Fascinating audio clip!

Bad luck KH! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Hope you get it resolved soon.

This is interesting, is a little grisly. Is it an airman from WW2?

Hikers spot possible body hanging in trees (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7595869.stm)

Celeon999
09-05-2008, 03:15 AM
The birthday celebrations of the Gorch Fock are overshadowed as a 18 years old officer cadet fell overboard on Thursday night and couldn't be found by now http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Article (http://www.thelocal.de/14119/20080905/)

Maverick_U2007
09-06-2008, 12:25 PM
OT-FA sells it's soul to the devil!!!!

It is not really news but is worthy, I think, of being aired on this particular thread.

The FA have seen fit to sell the Television rights of the England matches to Setanta Sports....I have no doubts they are a reputable company but how can it be right that...

Firstly you have to get a subscription to a Company that airs Setanta Sports and then you have to pay Setanta Sports to watch England matches.

I personally think that it is outrageous and would like to know if similar things are happening to other teams in Europe who have qualifying matches to play???

Maverick

Celeon999
09-06-2008, 02:36 PM
I just saw the qualification match between Germany and Liechtenstein in public tv. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Germany - Liechtenstein 6 : 0 by the way http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sleepzzz.gif


Thats for harbouring all those tax-evader's bank accounts http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

andy3536
09-06-2008, 02:37 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Maverick_U2007:
OT-FA sells it's soul to the devil!!!!

It is not really news but is worthy, I think, of being aired on this particular thread.

The FA have seen fit to sell the Television rights of the England matches to Setanta Sports....I have no doubts they are a reputable company but how can it be right that...

Firstly you have to get a subscription to a Company that airs Setanta Sports and then you have to pay Setanta Sports to watch England matches.

I personally think that it is outrageous and would like to know if similar things are happening to other teams in Europe who have qualifying matches to play???

Maverick </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


I'm with virgin media that have setanta with thier Bigger TV package anyway, so pay no extra.
The fans at the game were mocking the situation by singing "we've got setanta" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Celeon999
09-07-2008, 01:55 PM
Maybe interesting :

A german team of journalists recently made an private interview with Mikhail Kalashnikov, the father of the famous AK47 in his home in the city of Izhevsk Western Urals, Russia.


Today the father of the AK47 lives alone in a humble home and can only laugh about all the rumours that circulate about him.

He's not rich, he's not poor, he's not a broken man and he is not a celebrity who gets recognized on the streets by everyone.

He does not recieve any money from weapon producers or owns any rights on his invention which has been produced about 100 million times by now.

Instead he lives from a humble state pension, profits from a Vodka brand which carries his name and which he is chairman of.

Additionaly he earns money through a german merchandising company which produces knifes and umbrellas also carrying his name. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

He says that it makes him angry and sad to see what his weapon is used for all around the world.

"Everytime i watch the news in tv and see terrorists and other people using my weapon, i get very angry"

"Thats not what i designed it for. I created it as a defence weapon for my country's armed forces, not a weapon to be used by terrorists and war mongeres"

"The international arms dealers are to blame. Not enough is being done to stop the illegal arms trades all-around the world"

He said that he often gets invited to firearms conventions and is treated like a celebrity there. "Even to the USA !" he said. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

But he is "a bit disappointed" that he , so far, never recieved a invitation to Germany.

"Afterall, it was a german weapon which inspired me" the 88 year old said.

"I like Germany much."

"When i flew over Germany, back in the great patriotic war, the first thing which caught my eyes were the cornfields"

"In Russia, the cornfields looked chaotic from above but in Germany they were absolutely symetric. Everything was very orderly and methodic, that impressed me very much and affected my own habits up to this day"

"I enjoy working in my own little garden and i keep everything very orderly there, just like i do with my home"

The invention he is most proud of is not the Ak47 but his latest creation, a self designed and constructed lawnmower for his garden.

Messervy
09-07-2008, 02:50 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif to Mikhail Kalashnikov.

I would really like to buy his lawnmower.
In these "made in China" days it's probably one of the few things that can't break down.

Kielhauler1961
09-07-2008, 03:36 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">He says that it makes him angry and sad to see what his weapon is used for all around the world.

"Everytime i watch the news in tv and see terrorists and other people using my weapon, i get very angry"

"Thats not what i designed it for. I created it as a defence weapon for my country's armed forces, not a weapon to be used by terrorists and war mongeres" </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

He sounds like a deluded, embittered old man. He designed a weapon for the Soviet government, not exactly the greatest institution for respecting human rights. A gun is a gun is a gun. It's designed to kill people, ANY people!

So he still earns money through selling knives, eh? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif We need umbrellas in England but not street knives, far too many deaths this year in London already. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Kalashnikov, like all weapons' designers, is a 'merchant in the trade of death.' IMO he doesn't deserve any sympathy, or respect, at all.

While we're about it, we may as well praise the guy who invented the flame-thrower. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Just my tu'penny worth... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

KH.

Celeon999
09-08-2008, 01:29 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">While we're about it, we may as well praise the guy who invented the flame-thrower. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


The irony is that this man had actually two jobs.

One was being a engineer, the second being a firefighter. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Richard Fiedler (http://history.sandiego.edu/GEN/ww1/flamethrower.html)

klcarroll
09-08-2008, 02:06 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">A gun is a gun is a gun. It's designed to kill people, ANY people! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ah Yes! .....But so was the English Longbow, .....and the Broadsword, ......and back in the depths of time, the War Club.

Remember that they are all merely tools: ...When wielded by the minions of a Tyrant, or the criminally inclined, they can be used to do great evil.

...But in other hands, they are the tools that have allowed free men to resist that evil.

Blame (or praise) the user for the work done with the tool; ....not the inanimate tool itself!

klcarroll

Kielhauler1961
09-08-2008, 02:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">A gun is a gun is a gun. It's designed to kill people, ANY people! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Blame (or praise) the user for the work done with the tool; ....not the inanimate tool itself! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

@ klcarroll,

You misunderstand the point I was trying to make. My argument consisted of several sentances which, taken in the round, I thought would make my point clear.

I wasn't critising the gun per se, but the fact that Kalashnikov himself is now feeling embittered because 'his' weapon is being used by (in his eyes) 'undesirable elements'. That is pure hypocrisy. If he didn't want people to be killed by his inventions he should have stuck to lawnmowers! You can't design a weapon and then complain about how it's used afterwards!!!

When it comes to praise, people who design weapons come way down my list!

klcarroll
09-08-2008, 03:23 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">You can't design a weapon and then complain about how it's used afterwards!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I understand the point you are forwarding, but as someone who has worked as a Design Engineer, I tend to be a bit more sympathetic with Mikhail Kalashnikov.

He designed a weapon for the men who were charged with the duty of defending his country: ...Such duty is an honorable task, and a task that cannot be done without the proper tools!

I'm sure that you would never advocate sending a British soldier into harm's way with anything but the best equipment available: ....So I am a bit puzzled by your expressed attitude towards the people who make that equipment possible.

I don't think that there is anything immoral about designing the "tools for the job", and I can certainly understand the dismay of the designer when he sees those tools misused.

klcarroll

Kielhauler1961
09-08-2008, 04:22 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I'm sure that you would never advocate sending a British soldier into harm's way with anything but the best equipment available: ....So I am a bit puzzled by your expressed attitude towards the people who make that equipment possible. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

In my opinion, and I know that you and I are poles apart on the 'gun' thing, weapons' designers are a 'necessary evil'. I was simply saying that they should not be subjects of praise or reverence, given the basic nature of what they do.

Design a cancer-treatment magnatometer (or whatever) = get the Nobel Prize.

Design a thing to kill people = get a salary check and a pat on the back.

I'm not sure where the Britsh aversion to weapons stems from, but back in the 14th century there was a concerted effort by the church to stop wayward knights slaughtering innocent peasants on a whim.

I'm not going to re-ignite the debate we had some time ago in Foe's post (which is why I haven't poted any comments in his new thread), but you need to understand that the British public have a deep hatred of weapons, be they guns, knives, tasers... As a society we've experienced enough bloodshed over the centuries and have no need to eulogise the 'inventors of death.'

We don't even like our own military. One soldier recovering from wounds received in Afghanistan was recently turned away from a hotel in England after producing military ID, when he was trying to book a room when visiting an injured comrade. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

But, that's the way it is over here. We need 'em but it doesn't mean we have to like 'em. This is society's reaction, and does NOT reflect my own opinion.

I'll shut-up now. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

KH.

klcarroll
09-08-2008, 07:36 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I'll shut-up now. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

NO! ....There's certainly no need for that!!!

I can willingly approach this discussion knowing that you disagree with me; ...because in discussion there is understanding.

Just because I do not hold the same opinions that you do does not stop me from wanting to understand WHY your opinions differ from mine!

From my point of view, ....some of the things you mention are very sad.

You said; " We don't even like our own military. One soldier recovering from wounds received in Afghanistan was recently turned away from a hotel in England after producing military ID, when he was trying to book a room when visiting an injured comrade."

This reminded me of a time in our (U.S.) history when soldiers returning from Viet Nam were spit on in airports. ......I can't tell you how deeply that hurts! I've been in combat, and I know the unspeakable things that must be endured: .....To be treated as an outcast once you're home is a terrible "final blow".

The problem is that our world is nowhere near as civilized or as perfect as we would like; ....and consequently, "The Military" and the people who support them are "necessary evils". (...as you put it.)

But without them, ...where would you be???

In my engineering career, I have been involved in weapon design: ...And I'm proud of that!!

My feelings on the matter are that if my efforts helped to bring even ONE of our soldiers home alive, ....then I am vindicated as an engineer. The people who serve our country are the very finest we have to offer; ...and if I can help them in any way, ...I will!


.....And finally, .....Remember the old saying paraphrased by Tolkien; "...those without swords may still die upon them!"

klcarroll

Kielhauler1961
09-08-2008, 09:26 AM
One of the defining moments in British history, regarding social antipathy towards the soldiery, was the Peterloo Massacre of 1819.

Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peterloo_Massacre)

In the absence of a regular police force the army were regularly used to quash various disputes, normally with needless bloodshed and violence, and this didn't endear them to the civilian poulation.

Once I found myself, with a group of friends, in a pub in Chelsea for a quiet tipple. Then a bunch of loud, beery off-duty Royal marines (as it turned out) came in.

Within the hour the place resembled a war zone. They started a fight with two guys because one of them had had the nerve to ask them to be a bit quieter. Beer glasses and ashtrays were thrown, tables smashed etc.., My party couldn't escape as the fighting was right in front of our only exit. The girls went and hid in the Ladies' and we hid in the Gents'.

The police had to be called. These 'marines' then fought the policemen! The SPG (the older Brits amongst the readers of this will now know how long ago this event must have happened), who were the SWAT/Sturm Abteilung boys of those days) had to reinforce the regular coppers who were taking a severe beating..

I can sympathise with the plight of the returning Vietnam Vets. When British soldiers were first sent to South Africa for the Second Boer War of 1899-1902, they were publicly abused as they marched for embarkation and had rotten vegetables thrown at them! The army later became so unwilling to send 'regular' contingents that nameless formations of volunteers were enlisted to do the job.

Getting back to something a bit more pertinent, a friend of mine is a serving officer in the Metropolitan Police (London). As you probably know, British police do not carry firearms as standard issue. That task falls to a special unit called 'SO19' - a dedicated firearms unit. This unit relies on volunteers to fill its ranks but when the troop levels start to drop, officers (mostly juniors in fear of their future prospects should they refuse) can be forcibly 'drafted' into the unit. Well, two officers from my friends station were recently summoned to swell the ranks. One reluctantly did so but the other resigned from the force.

Guns are anathema to British society, and that is why we have such a hard time understanding cultures that tolerate them.

Maverick_U2007
09-08-2008, 10:01 AM
I have to agree with the principle that the British hate firarms and I hope that 'long may it' continue.

It has never been a 'right' in the UK to bear arms and as such in the past we have been able to keep the numbers down...and after several 'serious incidents' the government banned their ownership.

We have moved on though and some police officers have to carry them on a routine basis...BUT..the MAJORITY don't and I have to be honest I prefer it that way.

I have done my time in the Police and if anyone had told me that I must carry a firearm at all times I would have resigned and gone and found something else to do. Don't get me wrong, I was authorised to carry one for a few years and did so on many occasions...whenever the situation warranted it.

The incidents of firarm crime in this country is still relatively low and the measures taken to keep it that way seem to be sucessful.

When I was growing up it was something 'unique' to see a Firearm...in the US it has been a way of life for years....probably why we disagree over their acceptance in everyday life.

Maverick

klcarroll
09-08-2008, 12:30 PM
The following article was published in 2002: ...And while I do not expect you to endorse it's conclusions, ...it does examine the history of British gun control and the issue of British crime statistics.

http://www.reason.com/news/show/28582.html

I would be curious to hear your thoughts on it.

klcarroll

klcarroll
09-08-2008, 12:43 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">It has never been a 'right' in the UK to bear arms </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hmmm......... I'm a bit confused!

In the English 1689 Bill of Rights, one of the provisions was;

"That the subjects which are Protestants may have arms for their defence suitable to their conditions and as allowed by law;"

See: http://www.constitution.org/eng/eng_bor.htm

klcarroll

Ronin_32
09-08-2008, 01:06 PM
Having grown up in both Zimbabwe and South Africa(2 countries that allow gun ownership)and having done my national service in the South African army I moved to the U.K. I must say I feel infinitely safer in a gun free country and love the fact that the U.K. has a zero gun tolerance.

I actually still own two firearms in the South Africa, and in my experience yes it is not a gun that kills a person(It is the person who has the gun) but it does not mean we should make it easy for every-one to own one.