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LEXX_Luthor
02-22-2004, 01:16 AM
Doing some grafix testing and I took off I~16 with autopilot, then switched Auto off, but found I was crippled in speed.

Now, on External View, I saw the weirdest thing:: Some kind of flaps going under the plane were extended....including beneath the fuselage. The AI Autopilot extends these extra flaps on takeoff and then retracts them. But if you take over from the AI Autopilot too early, before AI retracts the extra flaps, you can't retract them. You only have control over the outside flaps. Wierd.



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LEXX_Luthor
02-22-2004, 01:16 AM
Doing some grafix testing and I took off I~16 with autopilot, then switched Auto off, but found I was crippled in speed.

Now, on External View, I saw the weirdest thing:: Some kind of flaps going under the plane were extended....including beneath the fuselage. The AI Autopilot extends these extra flaps on takeoff and then retracts them. But if you take over from the AI Autopilot too early, before AI retracts the extra flaps, you can't retract them. You only have control over the outside flaps. Wierd.



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necrobaron
02-22-2004, 01:21 AM
That is strange....

"Not all who wander are lost."

LEXX_Luthor
02-22-2004, 01:31 AM
No, just did some further tests and I missed the boat here:: You have to hit the Drop Flap key then they will retract on the next attempt.

Basically, its how the FB code works. AI takes off with flaps down, you take over just off the runway and the Retract Flap key does not work. I am thinking the GAME does not know YOU the player have extended flaps even if the Autopilot did it for you. Oleg, he is some slippery dude. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Also, you can start on the runway and work the flaps perfect, but let the AI extend the flaps and you cannot retract them unless you tell the game that YOU the player extended the flaps--you do this by hitting the Drop Flap key. hmmm.


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DJKruse
02-22-2004, 01:46 AM
screen shots please.

LEXX_Luthor
02-22-2004, 02:06 AM
Here, make your own in FMB...works with I~16~18 too

[MAIN]
MAP Kursk/load.ini
TIME 12.0
CloudType 1
CloudHeight 1500.0
player r0100
army 1
playerNum 0
[Wing]
r0100
[r0100]
Planes 1
Skill 1
numberOn0 0
Class air.I_16TYPE24
Fuel 100
weapons default
[r0100_Way]
TAKEOFF 137825.66 77273.65 0 0
NORMFLY 68037.49 77181.98 500.00 300.00
[NStationary]
[Buildings]
[Bridge]
[House]

LEXX_Luthor
02-22-2004, 05:10 AM
Hurricane too.

http://www.boardy.de/images/smilies/kopfpatsch.gif *bah* I think its related to the AI with its own intermediate flap settings that we don't get. But the code is weird. If you use Autopilot for some reason, just cycle Flaps up and down to get back control of flaps.


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you will still have FB , you will lose nothing ~WUAF_Badsight
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S 8
02-22-2004, 05:59 AM
June http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Franzen
02-22-2004, 06:09 AM
God and Oleg work in mysterious ways http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif
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mulsannemike
02-22-2004, 06:12 AM
I've had this happen before. What typically occurs is that the Autopilot put your flaps down in order to maintain position within a formation. It seems the AP can do this even when your airspeed exceeds the maximum safe flap speed. But if you take over at this time, you end up with jammed flaps. I've reported this before and basically have been told it was baloney or a figment of my imagination.

LEXX_Luthor
02-22-2004, 06:57 AM
Its not just jammed flaps, even before takeoff, the AI can drop flaps but this is not communicated to the code that follows the player's actions. At least on the one-flap-setting planes, if AI drops flaps, you can't retract until you drop flaps "again" yourself.

Not a problem that Oleg needs to worry about with the June Releace coming up and all, but something that one should be aware of. It really freaked me out why I was being crippled in speed. Anyway, I learned the I~16 flaps go under the fusealage and the flaps also drop ailerons together. That's a lot of flap. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif Anyway, I read once, probably here, that the I~16 flaps were locked shut and rarely used in real life. I dunno.

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p1ngu666
02-22-2004, 08:07 AM
be nice if we could have combat/takfeoff setting http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
ive had the ai instajam flap thing before, a RIGHT pain a 109

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Chuck_Older
02-22-2004, 08:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Superluminal:
June http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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LOL!

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