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Bearcat99
10-06-2005, 02:53 PM
For most of us here there is no denying the fact that we get a great deal of enjoyment out of this sim. For many of us we paid full price for each addition from IL2 on, and we usually had it on our HDS within 3 days of it's release (unless we mailordered it and they were slow.. in which case we franticly ran to the mailbox each day until it arrived.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif). Many of us have spent hundres if not thousands upgrading our hardware over the years primarily to get this sim to run the way we want it to, from graphics cards to CPUs, MOBOs ,joysticks,TIR (sometimes several versions),RAM etc, not to mention that most precious of irreplaceable commodoties..... time.

In addition to the sheer pleasure that you get from this sim, how has it set you on other roads that you may not have travelled if not for this sim? By that I mean..... I have always been fascinated by history.. but I have dove into WW2 and WW2 aviation history and facts in particular that I dont think I would have concentrated on if not for this sim. I now know a lot more about the Eastern Front war than I probably would have had it not been for this sim. Since I have started in this sim I have learned Photoshop from learning to skin.. and have gotten to the point where I can get an idea and take from concept in my head to print in a resonable amou t of time and have it look pretty good. I have done a few things for people just for fun and practice that have gotten raves. I have learned more about website building than I probably would have, and my typing skills and computer skills have gone through the roof (So far I have put together 8 PCs and repaired or upgraded dozens... with that skill being a direct result of my upgrade frenzy for simming). I am in the process of trying to teach myself to make movies for FB and I have also started to make model airplanes again.

How about you guys? What have been the added perks of your flight sim addiction and how do you use thewm in everyday life?

Bearcat99
10-06-2005, 02:53 PM
For most of us here there is no denying the fact that we get a great deal of enjoyment out of this sim. For many of us we paid full price for each addition from IL2 on, and we usually had it on our HDS within 3 days of it's release (unless we mailordered it and they were slow.. in which case we franticly ran to the mailbox each day until it arrived.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif). Many of us have spent hundres if not thousands upgrading our hardware over the years primarily to get this sim to run the way we want it to, from graphics cards to CPUs, MOBOs ,joysticks,TIR (sometimes several versions),RAM etc, not to mention that most precious of irreplaceable commodoties..... time.

In addition to the sheer pleasure that you get from this sim, how has it set you on other roads that you may not have travelled if not for this sim? By that I mean..... I have always been fascinated by history.. but I have dove into WW2 and WW2 aviation history and facts in particular that I dont think I would have concentrated on if not for this sim. I now know a lot more about the Eastern Front war than I probably would have had it not been for this sim. Since I have started in this sim I have learned Photoshop from learning to skin.. and have gotten to the point where I can get an idea and take from concept in my head to print in a resonable amou t of time and have it look pretty good. I have done a few things for people just for fun and practice that have gotten raves. I have learned more about website building than I probably would have, and my typing skills and computer skills have gone through the roof (So far I have put together 8 PCs and repaired or upgraded dozens... with that skill being a direct result of my upgrade frenzy for simming). I am in the process of trying to teach myself to make movies for FB and I have also started to make model airplanes again.

How about you guys? What have been the added perks of your flight sim addiction and how do you use thewm in everyday life?

NorrisMcWhirter
10-06-2005, 03:20 PM
Aye, so next time some smartarse goes on about how lucky we are to have the devs invest their time in this, how about about the mods (cough, cough) sparing a thought for those people who have invested THEIR time in it, too. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Ta,
Norris

Bearcat99
10-06-2005, 03:44 PM
What the (cough cough) are you tallking about and what does thathave to do with the title of this tread... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

blairgowrie
10-06-2005, 03:44 PM
That's an easy one. Before I started flying FB I knew nothing about computers. Now I find I am building them, reformatting, overclocking and all that other neat stuff we do.

I also have a bunch of new m8's all over the world that I keep in touch with on a daily basis.

And yet, I still have all my other hobbies like golf and bridge that are totally unaffected by my time on the computer.

Chuck_Older
10-06-2005, 04:05 PM
I'm an amatuer student of History to begin with, but the biggest thing about the sim aside from playing it I find is the research into various things I do because of it.

Friendly_flyer
10-06-2005, 04:08 PM
This sim/game has really taught me some Eastern Theatre war story as well as a few computer skills... Also, I have learned there's no shame to outright nerdiness, I quite enjoy it.

danjama
10-06-2005, 04:32 PM
I think the first and most important thing that has to be said for the game is how it has brought me in touch with hundreds of people across the GLOBE! That in itself i amazing. Some of them are great friends.

I too have learnt to skin in PS and ive also learnt movie editing skills becasue of my desire to make an il2 film! I learnt to build computers. My love for airshows was rekindled and so i began to learn about photography. Ive learned loads about ww2 panes and all the variants. I also make models again now. Mostly 48 scale, sometimes 24 scale. I learned a load of stuff to do with tweaking computers and networks. I got rid of 2 girlfriends who didnt interest me because i wanted to go on HL and fly http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif . I have made some great friends. Ill post again if i think of anythin else. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Interesting post idea.

danjama
10-06-2005, 04:36 PM
Thought of another important one straight away. Had my first flying lesson about a month ago now, and i have to say, my instructor was rather impressed with my knowledge and control of the plane (a sissy C152) considering id never been in a plane before EVER! (never been abroad). When he asked how i was so aware of everything, guess what i told him about http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif He was quite surprised and pleased. In fact impressed is a good word. I tried to make a deal, free PPL training and ill show him the game. He didnt fall for it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Lucius_Esox
10-06-2005, 04:58 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I think the first and most important thing that has to be said for the game is how it has brought me in touch with hundreds of people across the GLOBE! That in itself i amazing. Some of them are great friends.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Absolutey rgr that danjama.. Using t/speak for this sim has,,, educated me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

drose01
10-06-2005, 05:03 PM
This sim has helped me to realize that all US WW2 fighters actually sucked!

(I'M KIDDING!) (mostly)

No, seriously, it has been awesome to fly online with Aussies, Finns, Russians, and all the other internationals who play this sim.

arcadeace
10-06-2005, 05:16 PM
I€ve found I was willing to spend a lot of money... for 1 game.

I€ve missed some evenings spending time with loved ones and friends.

I€ve learned to be thankful I am not a whiner or fanboy.

I€ve also learned to better restructure my life and stop playing the sim, make a few bucks from selling my gamer PC components, and get some priorities back in order.

I think overall I€m a nicer, better man... for sure thanks to Oleg and 1C http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

JG5_UnKle
10-06-2005, 05:43 PM
I have a good excuse to sink a few beers with my online mates http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

LeOs.K_Walstein
10-06-2005, 06:06 PM
Good topic, Bearcat!

I´ve learned much of the same things as people wrote of above. But then there is another thing I´ve realized: One of my mates who have just bought this game (and is practising now) got an impression that there is a new form of culture developing here! He ment that this might be a beginning of anew type of an international entertainment which will replace something in the era of movies and TV.

I agree with that and I expect more and better games in future with increasing quantity of gamers. For example I often prefer spending evening with this sim rather than watching TV or going out. It has happened several times that my wife goes out with her friends as I enjoy more simming than boozing... expecially when I can do the boozing online with my friends from everywhere! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Wallstein

shotdownski
10-06-2005, 06:20 PM
1. Great appreciation of the difficulty involved in aerial combat (and flying in general). You don't just hop in a fighter, point it towards an enemy, and shoot.

2. Got to visualize the last moments of my uncle's life. As a B-17 pilot he was attacked and killed by Fw-190 A8's over Germany (August 15, 1944).

3. Learned that America alone did not win WW II, in fact our sacrifice was minimal. Learned that D-day came late in the war and that the Soviet's had already bled the Germans severely.

4. Learned how to "build" (assemble is probably more accurate) a computer.

5. Learned how to hack a joystick and build a more accurate WW II flight control system.

T_O_A_D
10-06-2005, 06:24 PM
Meeting you Bear http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Oh and the rest of ya. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I'll not drag it out, BC and blairgowrie sum up what I was going to say anywyas. Short I don't model, but I did get into Remote control aircraft, I really enjoy that.

I flew in a real WW2 aircraft (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/6641084723/r/6641084723#6641084723). Cost me over 400 clams, but well worth it.

I have actually made some better Internet friends, than face to face friends. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif You guys probably already know who you are. I'll not mention any names.

My daughter is an artist, and she helped me a bit with the adobe stuff. I don't toot my horn much but you should look at some of mine and others work over at http://www.warwingsart.com then download and enjoy it.
http://www.warwingsart.com/57thWing/340thBG/489BS/B25J-...S-9U-C-RATION_02.jpg (http://www.warwingsart.com/57thWing/340thBG/489BS/B25J-340th-BG-489th-BS-9U-C-RATION_02.jpg)

http://www.warwingsart.com/57thWing/340thBG/486BS/B25J-...-ANTONEO-ROSE_01.jpg (http://www.warwingsart.com/57thWing/340thBG/486BS/B25J-340-BG-486-BS-6F-SAN-ANTONEO-ROSE_01.jpg)

ROFLMAO and I said I wasn't going to drag this out. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

dieg777
10-06-2005, 06:45 PM
Without being too sentimental http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif- A chance to talk to a group that shares my interest in computers and aviation. A laugh at some of the threads and most important getting to interact with some good people. It has also opened my eyes to the opinions and thoughts of people from around the world, giving me a greater appreciation of our diversity of cultures.

Enforcer572005
10-06-2005, 06:58 PM
making some good friends from around the world...especially under it....heh heh.

Laugh my keyster off at some of the stuff i see, and get lots of info and pics and stuff from guys on here i wouldnt have gotten ohterwise....like the uss alabama damage thread above, and the malta airshow as well as british ones etc.

Learned alot more about the eastern front. Also learned that the winner of the cold war is the combat flight sim community.

I also learned that these Ruskie fellas are really cool guys......how could we have been enemies with guys like that all these years? They are a real hoot, as are many on here.

p1ngu666
10-06-2005, 07:06 PM
really improved social life http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

learnin more about history http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

meeting new intesting ppl, and shooting them http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Owlsphone
10-06-2005, 07:14 PM
Aside from the enjoyment of competition with real human beings online, I have made many friends (some close ones too) and have had the pleasure of meeting a few of you. As most of us know it's hard enough finding people that share the same interests. And in this day and age of Teamspeak and other voice programs, we can actually talk with one another. There's just something special about signing onto Hyperlobby and seeing the same great bunch of guys (and girls) time after time. I honestly think we have something that no other gaming community has.

huggy87
10-06-2005, 07:46 PM
Well, this game brought me to this forum. Which has taught me that people are overly sensitive, or I'm an insensitive b**tard. I really enjoy the international collection we have here. It's nice (most of the time) to hear voices from outside your own country.

huggy87
10-06-2005, 07:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Enforcer572005:
I also learned that these Ruskie fellas are really cool guys......how could we have been enemies with guys like that all these years? They are a real hoot, as are many on here. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'd like to doghump your observation here. Like probably most of us westerners who grew up during the cold war, I believed the hype that the soviets were decades behind our technology with poor knock offs built to crappy standards. How wrong I was (we/were). It's amazing how eastern european countries are stepping up to the plate as far as computers games. Silent Hunter III (romania) and IL2 from Russia spring to mind. They can still afford to take risks that western publishers seem disinclined to take.

The worst part is that their military technology has mostly caught up (and occasionally surpassed ours). For example, the russians have fielded a high off bore-sight missile for years. Most western squadrons are just now getting a similar capability.

gkll
10-06-2005, 10:18 PM
Its a hobby I share with my youngest son (15). And some buds, we get together on a LAN the odd saturday night and go and get our butts kicked online, but we get them kicked &lt;together&gt;, how sweet...

And i get a real kick out of the forum. Lot of smart people from everywhere on the globe, LOL and you learn a lot too.

VV_Holdenb
10-07-2005, 03:43 AM
Good thread! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

"Also learned that the winner of the cold war is the combat flight sim community." well put.


First days of il2, I had the demo and stumbled on-line to a Russian server. I was so bad that I was taken pity on with broken english messages along the lines of "follow me and watch." Amazed at how good everyone flew and how friendly! Got me interested in Eastern and Russian WWII history.

Enjoyed flying on virtual pilots Finnish server, (not been on for a while). Got interested in Finland geography and WWII history
of.

Enjoy lurking for the most part on this forum. Mostly cool threads and good folk. Always something new on the brew or to learn.

To feed the aircraft addition: Visited a lot of UK aircraft museums Duxford,Hendon, Shuttleworth and the mossie museum outside St Albans.

Good way of keeping in touch with old pals when we flying on-line.

dazza9806482
10-07-2005, 03:47 AM
Helped to fill the void left by quiting ganja...

and allowed me to get even the slightest appreciation of events and the lives of men a long time ago and whos experience is rapidly becoming lost to us.

the fact i can read a book by clostermann and actually relate to what he's saying in some small way is truely staggering

and rekindled my love of history, nearly destroyed by a 4 year Master's in Modern History. Ud think it would be the opposite but no!

ViktorViktor
10-07-2005, 03:54 AM
Well, I for one found out alot about Russian planes, and the Eastern Front in general. Never thought I would enjoy Eastern Front campaigns more than the Pacific theater or Western Front ones, but I do. Eastern Front air war conditions make for a great flight sim.

(But I'm usually flying the 109 or the 190.)

WTE_Ibis
10-07-2005, 04:04 AM
Years ago I tried to join the RAAF, I was rejected because of red green colour blindness.
What IL2 has shown me is that that rejection has saved my life over and over again ( I'm not as good a pilot as I thought I was). You can't respawn in rl. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

But the great thing is meeting all of you and flying with someone on the other side of the world and doing it wingtip to wingtip.
My hope is that oneday we will be able to look at the pilot alongside and see the face of the simmer, so we could put a face to the voice, now that WOULD be cool.
To all those that I see and talk to via this sim and these boards, thank you very much for your companionship, sportsmanship, generousity and help.
Cheers, and may you fly with a tailwind,
Ibis. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

rnzoli
10-07-2005, 04:31 AM
I learnt how to die. When the screen goes blank, just sit back and reach for the beer, waiting for the crash to happen.

I learnt how to kill as well. Find a n00b, and shoot him to death. When he left the game, find another n00b or leave the game as well.

Now, really. More knowlege about history, aviation, and people, who went through these times in real life, without the luxury of a refly button.

panther3485
10-07-2005, 06:15 AM
Quote:

"That's an easy one. Before I started flying FB I knew nothing about computers. Now I find I am building them, reformatting, overclocking and all that other neat stuff we do.

I also have a bunch of new m8's all over the world that I keep in touch with on a daily basis.

And yet, I still have all my other hobbies like golf and bridge that are totally unaffected by my time on the computer."

Thanks, blairgowrie. I'll use your post as the basis of my own because my experience has been similar, except:

(1) For me, it was getting into combat flight sims generally, rather than FB specifically but IL-2/FB/AEP certainly made me intensify my efforts!

(2) Getting into computers HAS had an impact on my other hobbies and activities, but it has also restimulated my interest in model building.

To summarize, overall, the IL-2 series has probably contributed more to my enjoyment than any other sims/games in the last couple or so years.

Also, I've been an 'egghead' on the Eastern Front for decacades, so when IL-2 arrived it was like the long-awaited consummation of a long courtship. I look forward to more fine sims from this stable.

Good topic, Bearcat!

Best regards to all,
panther3485

WOLFMondo
10-07-2005, 06:54 AM
Again with the growing up in the cold war and western history at school not really telling the whole truth about the former USSR if any on it at all apart from being 'commies' and that there part to WW2 was a bit part. Now I see the USSR was vital.

I've learnt allot about the VVS and what the USSR did in WW2 as well as after and before, not to mention learning allot about all sorts of aircraft and there history and the history of other countries. Some facinating stuff has been learnt from IL2 and the community in general.

waffen-79
10-07-2005, 08:21 AM
Well, I always liked anything to do with WW2

beign that:

History Channel & Military Channel Documentaries
Movies
Games: Wolfenstein3D, Medal of Honor, Call of Duty, etc.

I started with air combat simulation with the old Microprose's F-19 stealth fighter and it's sequels (F-15, F-117) then moved to play Microprose's Knights of the Sky(wwI) it was awesome.

I travel a lot because of my job, and I really enjoy the flights, but never piloted anything.

A friend of mine bought Il-2 Sturmovik back in 2001 and gave it to me because he find it "too difficult to play" and I liked ww2 stuff http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

As I said I wasn't new to online gaming, but HL is very different to other communities, MOH nor COD requiered that people teach you to play the game, and that gave me the opp to master my English and practice and learn some German, Italian, Portuguesse and French.

So all that I invested buying the series and upgrading my pc is paying off in Kamradery, Friendship, Culture and relaxation.

regards