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MichaelMar
09-03-2004, 08:37 AM
This came to me...when playing multiplayer what do you do when you run out of ammo? I guess most servers have realistic settings on high and that means limited ammo. Being new, still playing demo, I would run out of ammo REAL fast.

Can you land and in one of the hangers resupply?

MichaelMar
09-03-2004, 08:37 AM
This came to me...when playing multiplayer what do you do when you run out of ammo? I guess most servers have realistic settings on high and that means limited ammo. Being new, still playing demo, I would run out of ammo REAL fast.

Can you land and in one of the hangers resupply?

KRISTORF
09-03-2004, 08:44 AM
Turn tail and run for home, land and respawn. Then start all over again.

AHS_Kristorf

pettera
09-03-2004, 08:58 AM
After you have landed, crashed or bailed hit the ESC key. Then click on the Refly button. Then you are back where you choose base, plane, and ammo. Then, click the Fly button and you are back in business with a new plane directly from the factory.

Petter

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MichaelMar
09-03-2004, 09:12 AM
Thx...for I remembered sometime back playing CFS2 landing and going to a hanger to resupply.

AlexDavies
09-03-2004, 09:19 AM
at this point, i get ready to ram the HE-111

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carguy_
09-03-2004, 09:26 AM
If me and my team mate are 2v2 I usually stay just to prevent the enemy gaining on his six.You never know if the guy sittin on yer tail has ammo or not.

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McTriggerhappy
09-03-2004, 10:13 AM
yeah well, nobody in theory should ever run out of ammo, unless its a huge noob shootout on one map. Remember, only shoot if you will hit.

Troll2k
09-03-2004, 12:47 PM
Just fly over the little white boxes with the bullet icon on them.Also flying over the white box with the red cross will repair your plane damage.

XyZspineZyX
09-03-2004, 01:15 PM
Hehe, I can't believe this was even asked...

What *else* would you do when out of ammo, than to go back and get some more???

VVanks
09-03-2004, 01:17 PM
I fly around and let other people shoot me down.

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Kartveli
09-03-2004, 01:48 PM
Actually, as in RL, when I run out of ammo, I have sometimes stuck around, to make runs at enemies harrassing a friendly, and try to spook them off the tail...

Ironically, this often works on the "better" pilots who will break from the "danger", but the "stupid" or "point *****s" dont even bat an eye at the "threat" so I dont solve anything anyhow...

Dammerung
09-03-2004, 02:31 PM
Ram Ram Ram...

I'll try and Ram an Enemy if there's no way I can RTB safely... And NO, I dont do It the stupid way, I try to clip his Wing With Mine. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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boxmike
09-03-2004, 02:40 PM
If I'm with my buddy, I still stay with him. It has sometimes impact to opposite side behavior unless they are capable to read my ammo http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
If I'm alone, I'd just take a run for home plate.

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Resident_Jock
09-03-2004, 03:05 PM
This reminds me of an SP mission I just did. I felt like trying out the Ki-84 (ironically it's the only plane I had not flown up to this point), but the servers I play on don't have it available. So, I head to the singleplayer missions and take the Ki-84-1b vs. LA-7 and IL-2 map. The plane is pretty cool, actually. Rolls like a demon. The LA-7's always outran me though. Anyways, I shoot down the IL-2's but then I am out of ammo, so being the wacky Japanese kamikaze wannabe, I head off towards the LA-7's and try to ram them. Two make a head on pass with me, one right behind the other. The first one shoots for about a second but flies right into me, however I jinked at the last minute and he only knocks off one of my elevators. The next plane comes in literally 100 feet behind him and hits my wing. Oddly my plane shears off only the aleron and keeps going! Both the LA's had their wings clipped and fell into the ocean. I returned to the airfield and managed a decent landing.

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AlexDavies
09-03-2004, 03:36 PM
DR, i always use the wing on his tail-never fails. no damage to me, he has bail out.

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gates123
09-03-2004, 03:54 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dammerung:
Ram Ram Ram...

I'll try and Ram an Enemy if there's no way I can RTB safely... And NO, I dont do It the stupid way, I try to clip his Wing With Mine. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


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It's people like you that make bomber pilots want to fly offline. Have a little respect for the other guys who are trying to help their team and have the balls to fly these birds unescorted most of the time. If you run out of ammo trying to down a bomber then don't waste the 10 minutes it took for the guy to get to altitude by your shameless and unhonorable act. Its weak and nothing irratates a bomber pilot more then some noob who has no gunnery skills and resorts to this. Its pathetic and intentional rammers should be banned, they ruin the fun for the guys who want to fly the big boys.

http://www.fightingcolors.com/custompagestuff/b17visibility72.jpg
Did anyone see that or was it just me?

AlexDavies
09-03-2004, 04:06 PM
hey, someone had a go at me for not being historical, and now you're telling me not to be? like in WW2,The Russians destroyed over 500 German aircraft by ramming them in midair. and if no one is escorting the bomber, it'll be shot down by someone else anyway. oh well...

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gates123
09-03-2004, 04:57 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by AlexDavies:
hey, someone had a go at me for not being historical, and now you're telling me not to be? like in WW2,The Russians destroyed over 500 German aircraft by ramming them in midair. and if no one is escorting the bomber, it'll be shot down by someone else anyway. oh well...

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What the hell makes you think that the bomber will get shot down eventually, don't be so naive. This isnt ww2 and your life and country are not at stake so just let the bombers fly their mission and have their peace with out some dimwad ramming them because he would rather do that then "historically" fly back to base after running out of ammo.

http://www.fightingcolors.com/custompagestuff/b17visibility72.jpg
Did anyone see that or was it just me?

IIJG11_Spreckels
09-03-2004, 08:53 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dammerung:
Ram Ram Ram...
I'll try and Ram an Enemy if there's no way I can RTB safely... And NO, I dont do It the stupid way, I try to clip his Wing With Mine. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

THIS isn't stupid. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif

AlexDavies
09-04-2004, 04:32 AM
are you telling me to leave all the bombers alone?! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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NorrisMcWhirter
09-04-2004, 04:44 AM
Hi,

I can see Gate's point; very often it's pointless to fly a bomber online because idiots will queue up to fly into you. I can also see the validity of trying to destroy a bomber with a wingtip so as to take them down whilst you, yourself, survive.

The problem is that in the game, you simply bail out and respawn whereas in real life ramming and subsequently bailing out could have made you a POW for the rest of the war....These kinds of decisions to not factor into a virtual world, unfortunately.

wrt the actual point, it depends. 9 time out of 10 I will RTB but, if I do see someone in trouble, I may engage to try a drag and bag. Mostly, that depends on whether I think the person will be capable of pulling it off before I actually get bagged myself http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif So, here the two points converge; online, I try to fly as I would if it were real. I see self preservation as the key - support your mates as much as possible but remember that a dead, heroic pilot cannot win a battle whereas an alive, realistic pilot can. It's a bit like the buddy diving system; you don't endanger yourself unnecessarily.

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BinaryFalcon
09-04-2004, 11:57 AM
Depends on the situation.

I rarely ever run out completely, since I tend to keep track of what I have left and once I'm empty on my big gun(s) (say the cannon on the P39) I'll start on my way back to base.

If I'm heavily involved in running someone down when I run out of ammo, I'll usually stick with them until a good opportunity to break off presents itself.

However, during that time, I stick on them just as tightly as I would if I still had ammo. I can't tell you how many "kills" I've managed with empty guns that way, where the other guy will push his evasive actions down low too far and end up eating dirt long after I've lost the ability to shoot him down.

In short, if there are enemy aircraft around when I'm out of ammo, I fly very aggressively and do everything I can to stay on their six. If it's just me or I have a reasonable chance of running back to base, I do.

I found the P39-N1 was particularly effective for "bluffing" in this manner, as the .30s will go forever with the "extra ammo" loadout selected. Your 37mm will go dry first, then the .50s, and the wing mounted .30s will continue to fire for quite a while. They won't do a whole lot to most planes out there, but you can really force people into the ground with them quite well.

If you can stay on their 6 at close range and keep plinking them with the .30s, they're very likely to make a mistake at some point. From their point of view they usually don't know what you're shooting at them, just that they're being shot at. The fact that they're being shot at by guns that are unlikely to do serious damage doesn't occur to them, so they stay very much on the defensive.

Once they crash or are sufficiently comitted to running from you, you can take the opportunity to disengage and head back home yourself. Usually by the time they realize you're gone, you're far enough away to be safe from them coming back to get you.

Franzen
09-04-2004, 12:44 PM
It depends on the situation. If my team is still fighting I catch the six of an enemy and make him sweat. I stay about 400m behind him and let my mates know I'm out of ammo.

If my team is outnumbered I'll try to either clip off the enemies tails or even ram them. Sometimes I try to draw the enemy away from the fight. You'll always find at least one that will chase you for 50km. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif

If there are bombers I'll definitely ram them.

If everything is under control, I land and grab a fresh ride.

Fritz Franzen

gates123
09-07-2004, 11:52 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by AlexDavies:
are you telling me to leave all the bombers alone?! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif



All I'm saying is if you run out of ammo go RTB to the nearest airfield and try another run at him with a fresh plane. Don't be a #%$* and ram him cuz he'll just disconnect and fly his bomber offline or switch to a fighter and you won't get another chance at it. Just because you have no patience to shoot him down doesnt mean you have to ruin someone else's fun and ram him because your virtual life is meaningless.

http://www.fightingcolors.com/custompagestuff/b17visibility72.jpg
Did anyone see that or was it just me?

AlexDavies
09-07-2004, 12:12 PM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif now i see what you mean. i've never rammed a bomber online anyway, i prefer accuracy then, but offline is something else! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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gates123
09-07-2004, 12:17 PM
Hey offline ram all you want http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif But for rammers online all I can say is to show some damn respect for your fellow virtual bomber pilots and give them a "fighting" chance.

http://www.fightingcolors.com/custompagestuff/b17visibility72.jpg
Did anyone see that or was it just me?

BinaryFalcon
09-07-2004, 12:17 PM
As far as ramming bombers goes, I'll usually only do it if I'm so badly shot up that I can't make it back to base anyway, such as a barely running engine or some serious kind of fire or control issues.

Even then, I'll do my best to just nail the tail surfaces with my wings or something, so that I have a chance to bail out. I won't ever make a full kamakazie run where I know I'll end up killing myself.

Mostly though, if I have the means I'll RTB.