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gunshy028
06-03-2004, 10:35 AM
Hello, i have been flying for about 8 months with this wonderful thing called IL2 FB. I had a Logitech Wingman extreme that I had purchaced for other flight simms, and it works fine. It also works fine for FB.It costed me $40.00. Am i missing something. Is this type of joystick "good enough" for this game, or am I limiting myself ot higher levels of quality.You guys give great opinions on many subjects. Maybe you could give me a few on this one. Thanks in advance.

gunshy028
06-03-2004, 10:35 AM
Hello, i have been flying for about 8 months with this wonderful thing called IL2 FB. I had a Logitech Wingman extreme that I had purchaced for other flight simms, and it works fine. It also works fine for FB.It costed me $40.00. Am i missing something. Is this type of joystick "good enough" for this game, or am I limiting myself ot higher levels of quality.You guys give great opinions on many subjects. Maybe you could give me a few on this one. Thanks in advance.

TgD Thunderbolt56
06-03-2004, 10:54 AM
If you plan on staying in the flight-sim community, then I can suggest a few controller rigs that have good reps.

1. http://www.chproducts.com
2. http://www.saitekusa.com/usa/prod/x45.htm

These 2 are the most popular with my personal nod going to the CH gear. CH is more expensive, but is also (historically) more rugged. Both have a HOTAS setup that certainly isn't necessary, but makes flying a real joy.

Look around and ask specific questions and you should be able to make a decent decision.



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yarbles67
06-03-2004, 11:13 AM
Forget all that hi tech **** with rotaries and a million buttons. This is all you need to be a killa in the skies:

http://www.vintagefunworld.com/media/atarijoy.jpg

Metallicaner
06-03-2004, 12:00 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by gunshy028:
Hello, i have been flying for about 8 months with this wonderful thing called IL2 FB. I had a Logitech Wingman extreme that I had purchaced for other flight simms, and it works fine. It also works fine for FB.It costed me $40.00. Am i missing something. Is this type of joystick "good enough" for this game, or am I limiting myself ot higher levels of quality.You guys give great opinions on many subjects. Maybe you could give me a few on this one. Thanks in advance.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Do NOT play that stick with FB, or the entire I)L-2 title at all... the aircrafts doesn't turn/roll as good as they should, and so on, besides, I had three of those, but all of them broke... Now I've gotthe Sidewinder Precision 2... and it simply SKY-ROCKETED my flying skills... But I am currently waiting for the Saitek Cyborg Gold 3D to arrive in my letter-box http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Udidtoo
06-03-2004, 12:11 PM
Both of Thunderbolts Suggestions are fine choices.

Personally, I use a MS FFB 2. These are no longer found in stores by and large but can be found on Ebay. BTW, many with Xp have trouble getting this stick to function properly.

I would recommend doing a forum search and read some of the pro's and cons of different sticks.

In the end the best stick is the one that suits your budget and you can consistantly control your plane confortably and to your satisfaction.

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BpGemini
06-03-2004, 01:00 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by gunshy028:
Hello, i have been flying for about 8 months with this wonderful thing called IL2 FB. I had a Logitech Wingman extreme that I had purchaced for other flight simms, and it works fine. It also works fine for FB.It costed me $40.00. Am i missing something. Is this type of joystick "good enough" for this game, or am I limiting myself ot higher levels of quality.You guys give great opinions on many subjects. Maybe you could give me a few on this one. Thanks in advance.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Your stick is good enough.

I upgraded from the same stick you have to these two;

http://www.logitech.com/lang/images/0/911.gif

Logitech Freedom 2.4 Ghz Cordless
* 10 buttons (18 commands when one button is assigned as a shift)
* Smooth heavy metal throttle design
* Twisty handle for rudder control
* Cordless
* $50.00-60.00 U.S.



http://www.logitech.com/lang/images/0/2213.jpg

Logitech Extreme 3D Pro
* 12 Buttons (Up to 30 commands when one button is assigned as a shift)
* Twisty handle for rudder control
* Hard wired USB
* $30.00-40.00 U.S.

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DONB3397
06-03-2004, 01:52 PM
Just bought a second stick for my son and picked out the Logiteck Extreme 3D Pro. Steady. Responsive. A dozen programmable switchs. He likes it and so do I. I may trade off my trust old MS Sidewinder Precision 2 for this one. Check it out, like BpGemini says.

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A being breathing thoughtful breath,/A Traveller between life and death." -- Wordsworth

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Bearcat99
06-03-2004, 04:17 PM
That stick is good enough for now... no need to replace it if there is nothing wrong with it.. but i highly recommend you consider additional controls. FB supports multiple controllers.. your immersion factor will increase greatly if you add moe controllers and use the keyboard less.

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USE THAT X45 STICK AS A BUTTON BAY!

nearmiss
06-03-2004, 04:33 PM
http://www.saitekusa.com/usa/images/product/pcp/x52.jpg

This is the new upcoming Saitek. It's supposed to retail around $130.00 US, and in stores before Christmas.

CLICK TO READ MORE ABOUT IT (http://www.saitekusa.com/usa/prod/x52.htm)

Maybe someone reading this could add something, a review would be great.

Regardless, couple this stick with a CH Pedals and it might just be the X-52 is the best controller solution we've ever had.

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El Turo
06-03-2004, 04:50 PM
"What is the best joystick?"


Money being no object, the Cougar with evenstrain mod.. run you about $800 or so.



What is the best joystick setup for about $200?

X45 + CH Pro Pedals


What is the best joystick for under $100?

Twisty rudder:Saitek Cyborg Gold or the new Evo
Rocker rudder:X45

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gates123
06-03-2004, 05:09 PM
If you decide to go Logitec get some sort of warantee plan otherwise they will lose precision in 1-4 months and become unplayable. I've returned alot of these (over 8 extreme 3ds and 2 2.0's) but until some company can sack up and make a confrontable and practicle twist stick I have no other option. I dont like Saitek's wierd button configurations. I still have the 2.0 cordless and have to replace it every 3 months via best buy warantee plan.

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horseback
06-03-2004, 07:09 PM
I have the CH Products rig, and I swear by it. Get the USB Pro Throttle, Pro Pedals, and the Combatstick (if you shop around, you can find each for less than $110 US), and you'll get years of flightsim enjoyment with next to no further investment.

Had this rig for nearly 2 years now without so much as a hiccup, and I average a couple hours a day on a sim. Per hour of use, you won't get a better deal, IMHO.

cheers

horseback

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gunshy028
06-03-2004, 07:47 PM
I knew you guys could give me some great feedback. For now i'll stick to my stick(ha ha) http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif until I get a little better at all of this. I will keep my eye on the "breakage factor", for it seems to happen to this one alot. I see alot of talk about foot pedals on here. Well, maybe some day. Thanks for all your comments.

REDtheWINGMAN
06-03-2004, 08:19 PM
I have a sidewinder force feedback pro. I have had it for several years now and since then the force feedback has broken and the joystick has become highly sensitive. I am really attached to it, but it is time I get something new. Because I am so use to the high sensitivity, I want a joystick that is really sensitive in response. Any suggestions?

This Mortal Coil
06-04-2004, 10:48 AM
CH Products. Nothing else compares. I got my fighterstick USB yesterday, and had the pedals and throttle for 4-5 month now. Best stick I have ever owned.

Logitech, ****.

Microsoft precision Pro 1&2: decent, but developed a lot of centerplay.

Don't know about Saitek, but I tried the X45 in a store once and didn't like it.. felt weak, as if it would break apart after some time of use.