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tssummers45
03-05-2009, 05:52 AM
First of all I want to thank Zeuss cat for such great training resources,I appreciate all the hard work you do
I finished straight from the farm,My question is it possible to takeoff from a carrier in a Corsair?I know they were carrier based in ww2 but I have tried everything and I end up in the drink everytime.
I am new to Il2 but not to flight sims.Former CF1,CF2,CF3,Falcon 4.0 and flankerpilot

tssummers45
03-05-2009, 05:52 AM
First of all I want to thank Zeuss cat for such great training resources,I appreciate all the hard work you do
I finished straight from the farm,My question is it possible to takeoff from a carrier in a Corsair?I know they were carrier based in ww2 but I have tried everything and I end up in the drink everytime.
I am new to Il2 but not to flight sims.Former CF1,CF2,CF3,Falcon 4.0 and flankerpilot

JG53Frankyboy
03-05-2009, 06:21 AM
static or moving carrier ?

jamesblonde1979
03-05-2009, 06:36 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tssummers45:
First of all I want to thank Zeuss cat for such great training resources,I appreciate all the hard work you do
I finished straight from the farm,My question is it possible to takeoff from a carrier in a Corsair?I know they were carrier based in ww2 but I have tried everything and I end up in the drink everytime.
I am new to Il2 but not to flight sims.Former CF1,CF2,CF3,Falcon 4.0 and flankerpilot </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes it is possibe.

Make sure:

Your trim is set full back

Your flaps are in the correct take-off position. (You can use a higher setting if you like, experiment with that)

You get your engine to 100% revs before releasing the brakes/chocks.

Raise your gear as soon as you can.

Take it easy on the stick, just get yourself level before trying to climb.

tssummers45
03-05-2009, 06:41 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JG53Frankyboy:
static or moving carrier ? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Either one of the above.

tssummers45
03-05-2009, 06:46 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jamesblonde1979:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tssummers45:
First of all I want to thank Zeuss cat for such great training resources,I appreciate all the hard work you do
I finished straight from the farm,My question is it possible to takeoff from a carrier in a Corsair?I know they were carrier based in ww2 but I have tried everything and I end up in the drink everytime.
I am new to Il2 but not to flight sims.Former CF1,CF2,CF3,Falcon 4.0 and flankerpilot </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes it is possibe.

Make sure:

Your trim is set full back

Your flaps are in the correct take-off position. (You can use a higher setting if you like, experiment with that)

You get your engine to 100% revs before releasing the brakes/chocks.

Raise your gear as soon as you can.

Take it easy on the stick, just get yourself level before trying to climb. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I have the elevator trim full back,I have tried with combat flaps and takeoff flaps.When I leave the carrier deck I sink right into the drink no matter what I do like there isnt enough power for some reason.I realize that the corsair is not the friendliest aircraft to fly.
For some reason I just cannot take off from the deck on the corrsair

Skycat_2
03-05-2009, 06:58 AM
'Corsair' or F4U? Using the British designation makes me think that you're trying to take off from a Royal Navy carrier. I think the U.S. carriers have longer decks.

Also, are you loading the aircraft with bombs, extra fuel,etc?

RPMcMurphy
03-05-2009, 06:59 AM
Put your Corsair on a moving carrier with no rockets or bombs.
Go to take-off flaps.
Throttle up all the way and then release the chocks.
Keep right rudder and keep the plane lined up as it rolls out.
Just as you clear the edge hit the G and go gear up.
Pull back enough to keep it out of the water and fly strait.


Keep practicing, you will get it. After while you'll be able to do it like it was nothing.

Just don't try it with too many bombs because it'll be too heavy.

Practice on a big Carrier like the Lexington.

ausgixxerpilot
03-05-2009, 09:09 AM
I'm still fairly new to IL2 but I've found leaving the flaps up reduces drag initially so you reach a higher speed on the deck. Then toggle the flaps down just before leaving the carrier.

willyvic
03-05-2009, 09:15 AM
Some great advice here.

Just remember, if your settling into the water off the pointy end, you are too heavy. Check gas load, I recommend 25%, and lighten up on the ordanance.

Another bit of advice is to use rudder instead of aileron when initially clearing the deck to prevent wing down into the drink.

Practice, practice, practice.

WV

crucislancer
03-05-2009, 10:26 AM
Here's how I do it:

Leave the flaps neutral for now.
Lock tail wheel.
Mixture at 120%.
A little bit of nose up trim.
A little bit of right rudder trim.
full throttle with WEP.
Once all the engine dials are maxed, release chocks.
When I get midway past the "island", combat flaps.
when the tail leaves the deck, take off flaps.
As soon as the wheels leave the deck, raise gear.
Should be at 90 knots when you leave the deck.
Gentle stick input, in fact I hardly move the stick after takeoff.
110 knots, raise flaps to Combat, then neutral shortly after that.
Reduce throttle to 90%, make trim adjustments as needed, mixture at 100% before you get to 2500 feet.

This works for me with bombs and rockets and 100% fuel, as the lead plane on the moving, standard sized carriers. For escort carriers or non moving std. carriers, reduce fuel load to 50% if possible, or make adjustments to ordinance loadout. I use the same basic principal with all carrier aircraft, and make some minor adjustments depending on type.

Waldo.Pepper
03-05-2009, 10:30 AM
Here...

http://video.google.ca/videopl...=4165453209967617232 (http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=4165453209967617232)

tssummers45
03-05-2009, 12:50 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
Here...

http://video.google.ca/videopl...=4165453209967617232 (http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=4165453209967617232) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Thx everyone!!After 2 days I finally got it.I was flying off of the same carrier as this video,It is an escort carrier.
I use full flaps and elevator trim and I can do it but it still very difficult.
Once again thank you all for your input!!!

Da_Godfatha
03-05-2009, 12:55 PM
Hmmm, there is now a *mod* that allows you to take off from a static carrier with a catapult shot. Corsair with full load and 50% fuel.


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RPMcMurphy
03-05-2009, 07:31 PM
Thx everyone!!After 2 days I finally got it.I was flying off of the same carrier as this video,It is an escort carrier.
I use full flaps and elevator trim and I can do it but it still very difficult.
Once again thank you all for your input!!![/QUOTE]
Wow, if you can learn from the get go to take off AND land on a small escort carrier then you will be a sinch for normal size carriers.
It cool.