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AtomicRunt
03-20-2005, 12:41 PM
TO ALL THE KIDS WHO SURVIVED
the 1950's, 60's,70'sand 80's






First, we survived being born to mothers who smoked and/or drank while they
carried us.


They took aspirin, ate blue cheese dressing and didn't get tested for diabetes.


Then after that trauma, our baby cribs were covered with bright colored
lead-based paints.



We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets and when we
rode our bikes, we had no helmets, not to mention, the risks we took hitchhiking.



As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or air bags.


Riding in the back of a pick up on a warm day was always a special treat.


We drank water from the garden hose and NOT from a bottle..


We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and NO ONE
actually died from this.


We ate cupcakes, bread and butter and drank soda pop with sugar in it, but
we weren't overweight because WE WERE ALWAYS OUTSIDE PLAYING!



We would leave home in the morning and

play all day, as long as we were back
when the streetlights came on.


No one was able to reach us all day.

And we were O.K.



We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then ride down
the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into the
bushes a few times, we learned to solve the problem.


We did not have Playstations, Nintendo's, X-boxes, no video games at all, no
99 channels on cable, no video tape movies,

no surround sound, no cell
phones, no personal computers,

no Internet or Internet chat rooms...........

WE HAD FRIENDS and we went outside and found them!


We fell out of trees, got cut, broke bones and teeth and there were no
lawsuits from these accidents.


We made up games with sticks and tennis balls and ate worms and although we
were told it would happen, we did not put out very many eyes, nor did the
worms live in us forever.


We rode bikes or walked to a friend's house and knocked on the door or rang
the bell, or just walked in and talked to them!


Little League had tryouts and not everyone made the team. Those who didn't
had to learn to deal with disappointment. Imagine that!!



The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke the law was unheard of. They
actually sided with the law!


This generation has produced some of the

best risk-takers, problem solvers
and inventors ever!


The past 50 years have been an explosion of innovation and new ideas.


We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned HOW TO
DEAL WITH IT ALL!


And YOU are one of them!

CONGRATULATIONS!


You might want to share this with others who have had the luck to grow up as kids, before the lawyers and the government regulated our lives for our own good

Qbeesh800
03-20-2005, 01:13 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by AtomicRunt:
TO ALL THE KIDS WHO SURVIVED
the 1950's, 60's,70'sand 80's






First, we survived being born to mothers who smoked and/or drank while they
carried us.


They took aspirin, ate blue cheese dressing and didn't get tested for diabetes.


Then after that trauma, our baby cribs were covered with bright colored
lead-based paints.



We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets and when we
rode our bikes, we had no helmets, not to mention, the risks we took hitchhiking.



As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or air bags.


Riding in the back of a pick up on a warm day was always a special treat.


We drank water from the garden hose and NOT from a bottle..


We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and NO ONE
actually died from this.


We ate cupcakes, bread and butter and drank soda pop with sugar in it, but
we weren't overweight because WE WERE ALWAYS OUTSIDE PLAYING!



We would leave home in the morning and

play all day, as long as we were back
when the streetlights came on.


No one was able to reach us all day.

And we were O.K.



We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then ride down
the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into the
bushes a few times, we learned to solve the problem.


We did not have Playstations, Nintendo's, X-boxes, no video games at all, no
99 channels on cable, no video tape movies,

no surround sound, no cell
phones, no personal computers,

no Internet or Internet chat rooms...........

WE HAD FRIENDS and we went outside and found them!


We fell out of trees, got cut, broke bones and teeth and there were no
lawsuits from these accidents.


We made up games with sticks and tennis balls and ate worms and although we
were told it would happen, we did not put out very many eyes, nor did the
worms live in us forever.


We rode bikes or walked to a friend's house and knocked on the door or rang
the bell, or just walked in and talked to them!


Little League had tryouts and not everyone made the team. Those who didn't
had to learn to deal with disappointment. Imagine that!!



The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke the law was unheard of. They
actually sided with the law!


This generation has produced some of the

best risk-takers, problem solvers
and inventors ever!


The past 50 years have been an explosion of innovation and new ideas.


We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned HOW TO
DEAL WITH IT ALL!


And YOU are one of them!

CONGRATULATIONS!


You might want to share this with others who have had the luck to grow up as kids, before the lawyers and the government regulated our lives for our own good <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

This has something to do with flyable Avenger's unavailability, right?

Airmail109
03-20-2005, 01:18 PM
Meh I did most of those things back in the early 90's!

Latico
03-20-2005, 01:31 PM
AAAAHHHHHHHH

Those were the Good ol' days. I remember them well.

Born in '53

steve_v
03-20-2005, 02:10 PM
Too funny. A friend of mine has a picture of his wife's mother, while she was seven months pregnant with his bride, at a party with a martini glass in one hand and a cigarette in the other. The only thing missing was the bottle of DES. http://home.earthlink.net/~viner45/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/icon_axe.gif

edit: born in 1952

Iggy-Snaps
03-20-2005, 02:54 PM
S! We even cut our fingers and pressed them together with our friends to become "Blood Brothers" B day 10/24/1946.


Http://www.geocities.com/335th/pirate2.gif

Yog_Shoggoth
03-20-2005, 07:04 PM
And now all those kids who did that are now the Lawyers or the parents who shelter their kids. They're the Mother's who give their 80 pound 7 year old large fries and a 32 ounce Mountan dew (and gave him a cookie if they ate it all) Not only are they the ones who bought little Jimmy his Gamecube, but some of them even invented it. And they're the coaches who let that oinker Jimmy make himself the bunt of all agression at his school when his fat *** loses them the championship (Cause it'd hurt his fealings to cut him.) Oh, and the government's been messed up by them too.

Good thing you guys caught that lead paint, though.

Seriously, what generation where you planning on blaiming?

I hate how this has become a Nation obsessed on passing the buck.

noshens
03-20-2005, 09:27 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Iggy-Snaps:
S! We even cut our fingers and pressed them together with our friends to become "Blood Brothers" B day 10/24/1946.


Http://www.geocities.com/335th/pirate2.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You didn't get aids? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

MaxBruder
03-21-2005, 12:02 AM
Not to mention the Asbestos in the floor tile , in the sheet rock on the wall and ceiling, and everywhere else you went.

MaxBruder
03-21-2005, 12:04 AM
Born 12/06/56

RedDeth
03-21-2005, 12:19 AM
born 9 13 65 and glad as heck i wasnt born into the nintendo computer generation.

i got my fun by lighting fields on fire and putting the flames out before it got too big!

and using bb guns to shoot oout the neighborhood street lights.

and chasing girls around the neighborhood and running around out in the hills throwing rocks at cows and riding horses bareback if they didnt run away.

kids these days will all be obese slothful dominoes delivery pizza eating heartattack cases when they grow up.

its sad actually. it makes me so sick that i go to the gym 3 days a week to make sure it never happens to me or my family. you lead by example and my family and friends will never see me FAT.

i grew up in the right time i guess. kids these days are sucking down vente caramel frappaccinos with whip cream and extra caramel. at 13 years old. those things have more calories than two double whopper cheeses. and thats just the morning snack before stopping of at mcdonalds for a super size meal double quarter pounder with cheese with tons of ketchup and 3 refills of COKE.

HotelBushranger
03-21-2005, 01:57 AM
1/9/90. I AM born in the Nintendo generation, and let me tell you; it sucks. I'd love to be able to go out to ya mates place for the day, but these days you gotta watch out for pedophiles, bullies, strangers, probably even OLD people for crying out loud! My parents tell me stories when they'd go to a drive in movie, sleep in the back of the ute in the middle of nowhere (in Australia, ANYWHERE is just about nowhere http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif), lol my dad told me how before he left to Australia (he's Finnish), he set tied his wooden Sturmovik model from one tree to another, and filled it with fireworks/small explosives, so when it hit the tree it burst into flames http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Honestly, you Baby Boomer generation people are so bl00dy lucky, you guys got the good, healthy fun lifestyle. For some of my friends, their idea of a good time is going to the local LAN for a couple hours, but I never go lol, this weekend I'm going to the local Airshow for the weekend, and helping out there.

On the topic of fitness, I'm never gonna let myself get fat again. I do roughly 11 hours of sport a week, plus the additional hour at the pool, and I've been part of the Air Force Cadets for the past 3 years, and I can proudly say its been the best bloody time of my life. Can't wait till I grow up though, join the Army, get a family, settle down.

Happy Anniversary (?) guys http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Cheers

TheGozr
03-21-2005, 02:02 AM
very true lol good say..

Trust me some time you wish to forget about some bad sides of the military, you will try to place it far away in a corner of your brain and forget about it.http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

sapre
03-21-2005, 02:28 AM
born in 1989.
praise the nintendo generation!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

Bearcat99
03-21-2005, 07:26 AM
8*2*55.................. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

masaker2005
03-21-2005, 07:41 AM
Born in 4.11 1991.

Airmail109
03-21-2005, 07:51 AM
Ok between the ages of 14-16 (2001-2003) I did the following without being mugged, shot, or kidnapped)........Travelled England by train....hitch-hiked.....went camping with mates....slept rough on school field then went to school the next day.....trespassing on private schools.....been a wanton pain in the ****....been climbing all over building sites.....set off countless number of fireworks.....crashed at mates houses in other towns......had bonfires on school field with lots of booze......shot countless rabbits with my air rifle........partied....in the summers I was basically a tramp as I didnt spend much time at my own house instead I was at mates houses or speeping rough. Ive done all sorts of things and I was born in '86.........I guess it depends on where you live.

Dexmeister
03-21-2005, 07:54 AM
Heh, my mother claims that being pregnant with me caused her to want to drink Heineken. Go figure... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Tallyho1961
03-21-2005, 09:06 AM
April 2, 1961.

Where I grew up most of us had .22 rifles and dirt bikes by the time we were 13. Three or four of us would wander up past the local school with rifes slung over our shoulders and pockets full of bullets. No one thought anything of it.

We made bombs out of chemicals purchased via mail order with our paper route money, created hand grenades out of apples studded with firecrackers (also purchased with paper route money) which we threw at each other during mock war games, made tree forts out of scrap wood and metal scrounged from local construction sites, played hockey with no protective equipment and slept out in the fields in tents during the summer.

Somehow, we all made it.

reddevil49
03-21-2005, 09:27 AM
Born 03/06/54. Yea I know the 49 no longer works. Yes those were the care free days of youth. Sticks for guns,dirt lumps and fire crackers for bombs. What I want to know is what happened to the 60s. there still a blur. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Schmouddle-WT
03-21-2005, 09:32 AM
Born 17/09/1979, Czechoslovak Socialist Republic

50's?
Labor camps for intelligence and enemies of the Party? Forced collectivization - sweepin the country off the independent farmers?
Public tribunals having the defendants so mentally under pressure they have accepted the guilt constructed around them?
Executions of innocents? NKVD taking to Siberia whoever they wanted?
Shooting people trying to escape this bloody regime?
Brainwashing?

60's
Popular music groups forbidden? Long hair forbidden? Listening to Western Radio forbidden or technically disabled? And when we tried to change the things being occupied by Russians without West doing anything else just talking?

70's and 80's
Being forced to join Pioneer (communist youth movement), being punished at school wearing something different than the rest of the crowd? Having ONE hot-dog stand in whole Prague (1,000,000 citizens) opened on
Sundays?
Secret Police and its collaborants gathering info on you?
Western goods to be bought only by priviledged, common guy not allowed to travel to the West?
Bananas and oranges only for Christmas, seasons in which having a roll of toilette paper was an archievment?
01/05/1986 being pulled out for a compulsory Day of Working parade, not being informed the Chernobyl has exploded four days before and high dose of radiation is spreading over Czechoslovakia ?
---------------------

Definately we have had a good time in our childhood, going to vacation to my grandma in Havirov (Miner's City), being with my parents on the cottage in the country....

Altough all the good things I remeber from my childhood, I am better with what we do have now.
I can now say what terrible time we have had gone through, something you from West (and America and whatever free world) could never yet imagine, not saying anything about understanding it.

Fat and lazy children are our responsibility, not responsibility of the period.

loufromlouville
03-21-2005, 09:37 AM
1952 for me.

Remember the sonic booms...to cool!
Even got to see a couple of B 58's in the air http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Monson74
03-21-2005, 01:24 PM
Born 1974

I rode the backseat of my dads Ami every day - 110 km/h on the freeway & all the way south through Germany to France on holidays & no seatbelts (crashed 2 times).

My mother was/is a smoker (still alive).

We made popcorn with REAL oil (no micro).

We were on the beach tanning in the sun & people died from all sorts of things but not skin cancer.

We had no insurance & 2 break-ins.

We had no fire extinguisher or smoke alarm but 3 fires.

We went mountain hiking/sailing/biking & whatever without a first aid kit but we did bring mosquito oil.

I'm alive (so far). http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

UKPsycho
03-21-2005, 01:49 PM
17/06/1981

Had a great childhood, did majority of stuff mentioned and more! Megadrive age came into fruition at about 10 i think, didnt corrupt me( although I loved it and still play it)!

Grew up (yeh right!), settled down with my partner, bought a house at 21 and got fat.

Now out and about more, playing football (not soccer, FOOTBALL - you yanks will have to get a new name for what you term football http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif ) loosing weight.

My mum and dad brought me up the best they could and are loved ever so dearly!

Dad was born in 1928, parents house was hit by V1 in chiswick before he got home on the day he earnt his apprentiship (panel beater for spits http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ) killing pretty much everyone in the street - that was at 16 years old. Mum born in 46, parents survived war ok.

Generations change my friends, generations change! It will all come full circle!

horseback
03-21-2005, 06:19 PM
9-16-53, USAF brat, earliest memory is B-36s over Mountain Home AFB. Early morning paper routes from ages 11 to 15 to finance my scale modeling hobby, bagging groceries at the base comissary from that point on to finance the new hobby (girls).

Climbing trees, shooting BB guns, running around barefoot in the desert outside Tucson, bowhunting rabbits (and eating what we killed), rock climbing without any special training or harnesses (or ropes) in the canyons and mountains while my parents (proudly) watched from the campsite or picnic tables a few hundred feet below, playing football (we didn't play much soccer then-we hire soccer players to kick the ball) without pads, which was relatively safe for kids under 12, bicycling the ten plus miles to the NCO Club on base to swim in the pool all day, every day all summer long, and never getting a sunburn until I went to Navy Boot Camp (they cut off all my hair, and my ears practically cooked right off my head), a broken nose every two months for over a two year period (football, basketball, wrestling, basball, the odd fistfight, and I uh, swam into a pool edge while 'under the influence'), and you know what?

It scares the hell out me to think that my 12 year old son might attempt to take the same risks I took without thinking at that age. Just my glancing contact with the Oprah show and the knowledge that most child molesters survive to face (repeated) trial makes me a lot more paranoid about his safety, even though he has reached his first level Black Belt (karate).

cheers

horseback

96th_Nightshifter
03-21-2005, 06:28 PM
Born 03/11/1978

Perfect age for the start of the computer generation lol. First was the Spectrum 48k, then I was so proud to get a Spectrum 128k, think I moved onto a Commodore 64, then came the age of the console. Think My first was a Megadrive, then a CD32 (heard of it nah it was ****!!!), Playstation next and then the PS2 and PC are my current toys.
Even though I owned these "toys" in my younger days - I wouldn't be lying to say that I hardly spent any time on them. My childhood consisted (when not on a school day) getting up at the crack of dawn, meeting up with all my mates and going camping, building dens, shooting airguns, remote control cars, playing with sticks lol, going for massive bike rides, skateboarding etc...... basically out all day and coming in when the street lights came on lol.
Nowadays I have to try and convince MY kids to actually go out and play "I don't want to go out and play, want to watch TV" is the usual reply - what a world lol

nickdanger3
03-21-2005, 06:51 PM
Glad you all made it through like me, but let's be real:

"Between 1980 and 1998, the death rate for children from ages one to four dropped by almost half; and the death rate for children five to 14 was reduced by a third," Dr. Sondik said.

The leading cause of death for children was unintentional injuries, many resulting from motor vehicle crashes. Over two-thirds of children age one to 14 whose deaths were attributed to motor vehicle crashes in 1997 were not in car seats or wearing safety belts at the time of the crash.

Bearcat99
03-21-2005, 10:41 PM
Anybody remember Ringolevio,Skellys (Lodies in some parts),Johnny on the Pony,Red Rover,Hot Peas and Butter,hitting the Johnny pump in the summer,milk crate scooters,baby carriage go carts,2X4 skate boards,refrigerator box forts,water balloon fights,sneakers on the line,hitching the bus,kites on the roof,pitching pennies,bean shooters,chalk socks,clip fights,and the all time favorite...... stickball (punch ball in some neighborhoods), handball.........

han freak solo
03-21-2005, 11:20 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tallyho1961:
April 2, 1961.

Where I grew up most of us had .22 rifles and dirt bikes by the time we were 13. Three or four of us would wander up past the local school with rifes slung over our shoulders and pockets full of bullets. No one thought anything of it.

We made bombs out of chemicals purchased via mail order with our paper route money, created hand grenades out of apples studded with firecrackers (also purchased with paper route money) which we threw at each other during mock war games, made tree forts out of scrap wood and metal scrounged from local construction sites, played hockey with no protective equipment and slept out in the fields in tents during the summer.

Somehow, we all made it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Your from Texas, ain't ya. I am, born here in 1965. I got to do all those things even into adulthood, until the burbs took over my neighborhood. I use to ride my dirtbikes out of my driveway with a rifle strapped to my back. for some target practice or huntin'. Or take the dirtbike out for some haulin' *ss without the firearms.

I moved back into the city in 2002 because the city limits got too far away for my morning commute.

han freak solo
03-21-2005, 11:27 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>The leading cause of death for children was unintentional injuries, many resulting from motor vehicle crashes. Over two-thirds of children age one to 14 whose deaths were attributed to motor vehicle crashes in 1997 were not in car seats or wearing safety belts at the time of the crash. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sounds true enough. In 1983 I spun out a 1968 VW beetle at 90mph on a freeway. (Yes, it would do 90 due to engine work.) Anyway, I took three windows out of that car with my head. Nearly severed my nose. I ended up in the backseat. Obviously, no seat belt. I got out of the hospital 5 days later on my 18th birthday.

Monson74
03-22-2005, 03:09 AM
The Ami my dad owned wouldn't pass a crash test for scateboards now http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif His Lada performed surprisingly well when he spun off the freeway (aquaplanning) & into the fence - 110 km/h & just a fender-bender http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

TgD Thunderbolt56
03-22-2005, 05:46 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Schmouddle-WT:
Born 17/09/1979, Czechoslovak Socialist Republic

50's?
Labor camps for intelligence and enemies of the Party? Forced collectivization - sweepin the country off the independent farmers?
Public tribunals having the defendants so mentally under pressure they have accepted the guilt constructed around them?
Executions of innocents? NKVD taking to Siberia whoever they wanted?
Shooting people trying to escape this bloody regime?
Brainwashing?

60's
Popular music groups forbidden? Long hair forbidden? Listening to Western Radio forbidden or technically disabled? And when we tried to change the things being occupied by Russians without West doing anything else just talking?

70's and 80's
Being forced to join Pioneer (communist youth movement), being punished at school wearing something different than the rest of the crowd? Having ONE hot-dog stand in whole Prague (1,000,000 citizens) opened on
Sundays?
Secret Police and its collaborants gathering info on you?
Western goods to be bought only by priviledged, common guy not allowed to travel to the West?
Bananas and oranges only for Christmas, seasons in which having a roll of toilette paper was an archievment?
01/05/1986 being pulled out for a compulsory Day of Working parade, not being informed the Chernobyl has exploded four days before and high dose of radiation is spreading over Czechoslovakia ?
---------------------

Fat and lazy children are our responsibility, not responsibility of the period. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


If you didn't read this post, read it again...and be thankful, sympathetic and understanding of everyone. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

TB (9-24-63)

bigchump
03-22-2005, 06:23 AM
04-23-47

My dad survived Tarawa and Iwo Jima (barely).
My father-in-law flew B-24's, including the first raid on Ploesti.

They both told me to shut my mouth and quit whining about how tough Vietnam was...

Tooz_69GIAP
03-22-2005, 07:01 AM
December 1980 for me.

Saunders1953
03-22-2005, 07:11 AM
8/4/53

My father was with the 105th Infantry/27th ID (Howlin' Mad Smith adherents can P.O. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif thank you). His battalion was nearly annihilated at Saipan in the largest banzai attack of the war. When we were kids, we played with all his gear and souveniers, including the bayonet that nailed him in the side. I grew up in a small town in Wisconsin of 2300 people. Everyone knew everyone else, and everybody's dad had served in the war. We played "Army" nearly every day (still am, LOL) and used a lot of the real gear--webbing, canteens, etc. (Even sneaked that bayonet out sometimes!) My generation had it great, and in my case and that of most of my friends, there was no free ride. My siblings and me and my wife put ourselves through college, even while we had young kids, with no help given or asked for, except maybe babysitting----it just wasn't on the table. What I can't figure out is how we ended up spoiling our kids' generation so badly that (collectively) they are so **** worried that little Susy will bruise her knee on the playground, or worse, bruise her little ego. Sigh....

CAPT_COTTON
03-22-2005, 07:15 AM
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What happen to change everything TV and every sob sister that they could put on there to tell you you were going to die tooooo soon and in the background is the people who make these adds headed for the bank.all those people that used ciggarates are sill alive and some of the sob sisters and jogers are dead -go figger
the wifes of the 60and 70s were running in to court and running out on there husbands as fast as they could better him working and me not idea
the orther problem is inflation start in 60s and it ant went away.
Then the goverment listined to sob sisters again and parents cant spank kids any more so now they shoot each other.
Worst think of all after the wifes threw away husbands and were living on his money they started bashing men at every turn in the road and the father of the 50s and 60s were gone down the drain and we got single moms[13 year old ***** who doest know who father is ]
I was born 8- 8- 1942 and grew up threw this mess and raised three kids and watched it all go to hell.
when you buy that product that supports you being a good consumer doing what they wont and dont vote you porduced it.
when a man says dont call me sir son------
hes not the solustion------
hes the problem
i had a very great child hood doing what he said in his post and i am 62 and never stot my friends and been in jail and own my own home and the govement sends me 1300 dollars a month
what is in store for you after 50 years of do gooders ---sad but true----

CAPT_COTTON
03-22-2005, 07:36 AM
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I am back i forgot something http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif
i would like to ask Schmouddle-wt what his personal childhood was like in russia at the time of the stuff he talks about was going on in his country. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif
mine was like we have been talking about in the first post .
america in the 50s and 60s had lots of bad times around us but we seen it on TV or heard it on the radio and then when i left school and joined navy[yes volenteer]i was in some of the stuff that happened on TV.
i was wondering if your child hood was same as ours cause i think we are all the same as kids untill something changes us to adults http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

TgD Thunderbolt56
03-22-2005, 07:41 AM
CAPT_COTTON, Schmouddle-wt is Czech and lives in Prague. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


TB

Tallyho1961
03-22-2005, 07:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by han freak solo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tallyho1961:
April 2, 1961.

Where I grew up most of us had .22 rifles and dirt bikes by the time we were 13. Three or four of us would wander up past the local school with rifes slung over our shoulders and pockets full of bullets. No one thought anything of it.

We made bombs out of chemicals purchased via mail order with our paper route money, created hand grenades out of apples studded with firecrackers (also purchased with paper route money) which we threw at each other during mock war games, made tree forts out of scrap wood and metal scrounged from local construction sites, played hockey with no protective equipment and slept out in the fields in tents during the summer.

Somehow, we all made it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Your from Texas, ain't ya. I am, born here in 1965. I got to do all those things even into adulthood, until the burbs took over my neighborhood. I use to ride my dirtbikes out of my driveway with a rifle strapped to my back. for some target practice or huntin'. Or take the dirtbike out for some haulin' *ss without the firearms.

I moved back into the city in 2002 because the city limits got too far away for my morning commute. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Montreal, Canada, actually. We lived on the North Shore of the St. Lawrence, kind of where the development ended. There was a lot of space in those days.

IV_JG51_Razor
03-22-2005, 08:18 AM
June of '51 here. Navy brat, who's dad was a Naval Aviator. He flew TBFs in WWII ("the big hate")and flew F9F Panthers in Korea. He was the CO of the squadron that helped make "Bridges Of Toko Ri"

I remember running around behind the DDT truck at Pax River NAS because it was just like being in "London fog"! I remember getting spanked with a belt when I deserved it. I remember Monogram models costing $3.50-5.00. I remember my older brother getting to ride on my dad's lap in the cockpit of a Panther as they were taxiing down to the dock to be loaded aboard ship at North Island NAS.

Those were great times, but you know what? I'm STILL having a great time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Schmouddle-WT
03-22-2005, 08:44 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CAPT_COTTON:
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I am back i forgot something http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif
i would like to ask Schmouddle-wt what his personal childhood was like in russia at the time of the stuff he talks about was going on in his country. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif
mine was like we have been talking about in the first post .
america in the 50s and 60s had lots of bad times around us but we seen it on TV or heard it on the radio and then when i left school and joined navy[yes volenteer]i was in some of the stuff that happened on TV.
i was wondering if your child hood was same as ours cause i think we are all the same as kids untill something changes us to adults http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dear CAPT_COTTON,

I was born in 1979, at the times when socialism was strong on the surface but already rotten inside. I was born in Czechoslovakia, I am living in Prague. I dont want to speak for Russians, I better leave themselves talking about their childhood in USSR.

The regime put out all the personal responsibility of the citizens, by means of secret police, not allowing education to childern from certain (opposing) families, economically sucking everybody who was not going with the stream. The citizens choosed to pushed themselves into their inner life, not being too out of the crowd, just caring about their families and private life.

I was also playing in in the backyard with an airgun, I am the one who lost sight in one eye after being hit by an arrow (1984)....Besides that I had really nice time with my parents going to our cottage in the country....herding sheeps (sometimes ride them, too) ( btw not the way you think http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif ).

The regime however was present everywhere. Both parents of mine worked in the forwarding bussiness. Once, my father was sent to Holland for a training stay and immediately was contacted by a secret police officer who asked him to collect messages from the hidden stowaway. My father refused to do so and was called for explanation to the director of the company (since then he is in the Secret Police files).
As a small child I could not understand why there are so nice toys in Holland (father brought some matchbox cars in) and not by us, why I cant go with my dad there....

My mather gave me basics of English in my age of 6, there werent many ways how to learn English - at school, the focus was to Russian - elsewhere you could not find a place in the class for a long time since the numbers were limited.

At age of five(1984) I was forced by the teacher to join local Pioneer group (communist and the only allowed youth movement) where you have been brainwashed with love to the Party and USSR from the very small age. I was rejected one year later after I told the Pioneer leader that all the stuff there was boring and useless. My mother was called in to the director of the school for explanation of the anti-socialistic behaviour of mine.

Fortunately me and my brother had found a group of turists, which was actually an undercover Scout group (Scouting was banned by Communists in 1949, then released in 1968, closed in 1970 again after 1968 Soviet occupation of CSSR). There I learned there are not only the Party, school and Pioneer brainwashing organizations, I have met some very nice and gentle people at the tourist group. I also learned lot of things there. Things about the world, we listened to BBC and Voice of America, made scouting camps without intervention by the Party or its youth division.

I was only 9 when the Velvet Revolution thrown away the communist regime (17/11/89), at first I could not understand it - the communist regime looked to me, 10 year old boy, something so natural I could not imagine what will be next. The next however is the modern history.

in 1993 Czechoslovakia split up peacefully into Czech and Slovak Republic, in 1998 we have joined NATO and later (2004) European Union. We are now part of the free world, our children are now wide open into the world, something quite natural now, but unimaginable at the time of my youth.

I only wish the childern all around the world are free and do not suffer under bloody and violent regime, not starving, having proper education and, what mostly, love and respect.

This world is not a nice place to live for many of us, we all are supposed to improve the situation.

Former communist countries in Central Europe (Poland, Czech and Slovak republic, Hungaria) have now the right and obligation to push hard for a better world.
We do it like that, altough not always accepting each single step America takes, our countries support Americas struggle for freedom in the world. We have sent troops into Afghanistan and Iraq, by means of army mobile hospital we have provided the people of Basra with medical treatment in the chaos time right after US-led invasion to Iraq. Altough we do not fight, we are trying to relieve the suffering.

Well, that was little of politics, sorry but my childhood was heavily influenced by politics.
I deeply hate communists, I hate people calling that age "nice times". These were not nice times. Not here at least.

I wish all those young left-sided guys in the West praising communist ideas to live one month in 70's-80's Czechoslovakia. They would learn what does it really mean "socialism in reality"


One small funny story from the time of Velvet Revolution.

In suburbs of Trutnov, 5,000 citizen city in Eastern Bohemia is a huge fenced area where the buses of local state-owned transportation company parked. The fence was made of brick and on each part there was a letter. Together there was typed:

"With USSR forever and never any other way!"

At the time of Velvet revolution the students overpainted the second part of the sentence. The new expression was nice and simple, expressing what we all thought:

"With USSR forever and not a second longer!"

S!

CAPT_COTTON
03-22-2005, 09:16 AM
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Thks thunderbolt56
But was this not part of USSR when i was kid and i remember seeing the tanks in the streets on the tv and at the movie theather in news tunes they showed on screen as a kid i remember the white wall tires on TANKS????? and later when older i relized what i had been watching.
we had ******s being shot and bomb scares every month and every friday the airraid siriens
would go off to tell us that we lived in the nuckem age.Someone shot my first comander in chief JFK and on the school bus the protesters shot a girl in seat behind me and in1947 texas city blew up and we went down to see if my aunt juanta was alive and i seen the dead and all the fires.
but i still was akid and i remember that on halloween we went door to door and if we got apples we threw them away and looked for the good stuff CANDY. Billy Don went to this door and told the man he did not want any fruit and the man said he was a fruit and slamed the door and we wooped Billy Don on the head .We stayed out till midnite with the streets full of kids mite see an adult now and then SO wath happen
TV started showing pixs of some kid in NYC with a razor blade sticking out of his lip and that sceered the hell out of some parnets in the ile of write and so they got on TV and now the kids go to the maul and the panterts can speend money ---now on tv the adds say keep your kids safe send them to maul and come with them PROFIT makes it great.
When we went trick or treating we knew evryone in a 5 mile area even the dogs chickens and where the watermellons were and a running report was giving to parents by telephone [party lines]
to day try to talk to your neighbor ??????

han freak solo
03-22-2005, 03:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>

Montreal, Canada, actually. We lived on the North Shore of the St. Lawrence, kind of where the development ended. There was a lot of space in those days. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, I should have known since you said you played hockey. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Schmouddle-WT
03-25-2005, 05:11 AM
Any Russian over here which could tell us about his/her childhood in USSR in 50's, 60's, 70's or 80's?

Dunkelgrun
03-25-2005, 07:31 AM
1955, England. Did all of the things in the original post apart from Little League (obviously) and rode in farm wagons rather than a pickup, plus riding our pushbikes all over East Kent and never getting run over. Made a good few explosive devices too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.

Cheers!

DuxCorvan
03-25-2005, 10:31 AM
Spain, 1971. When I was a kid, there were only two channels on TV, that only worked at evening. B/W, of course: I didn't see a color TV until I was 12, and it was not at home...

You went to school early in the morning. Teachers often beated you and called your parents who were always on teachers' side... you got out late at afternoon and went playing pinball with your friends in some bar full of drunken guys -true pinballs with true metal balls, and eating full tars of hot chili peppers to see who was the first to surrender and spit half a liter of salive. You got home and saw TV, even knowing you had lots of homework to do and that teachers would beat you and call your parents, etc.

Your parents asked where you had been and you could quietly lie, knowing that you had not a GPS cellphone on, in fact, not knowing what the h*ll was a cellphone.

Nintendo? First time I saw that was in those huge modern machines -Donkey Kong. I had my legs full of hair by then.

morgo
03-25-2005, 01:55 PM
not letting your kids out to play on the streets depends on where you live,

fear is the problem-there were as many child molesters in the 50's as there are now

mass paranoia fostered by tv-at least its better in uk than us

contentious eh?

EnGaurde
03-25-2005, 03:31 PM
3/73

baah hahah yeah i recall mid western NSW in Oz for a childhood... rockfights at the quarry, riding your bike from dawn till dusk, watermelon, no shirts etc.

it was great, everyone in the street knew you, so at lunch or dinner time if you werent home youd wander in to the nearest house and get fed.

do that now, and... hmmmm.

early teens meant a dairy farm and all the associated fun of lots of acres and motorbikes, guns and fishing.

i still recall the time where three 14 yr olds camped on the edge of the river, with beer from the fathers fridge, blasting mullet as they jumped out of the water http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Wed then mount surprise attacks on ducks... all creep the the scrub, guns loaded http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif and on the signal, jump up and blast anything that looked like a duck.

THEN.... we got cheap chinese made skk's thru mail order and a thousand rounds of ammo...


ahhh the days before someone told us we couldnt do all the things we'd been doing for years because they were suddenly illegal?

ddsflyer
03-25-2005, 03:56 PM
We did math by hand, had good penmanship, could actually spell correctly, read books, got more exercise than game pad thumbs, got spanked by both teachers and our parents, never locked our house when gone on vacation, left our keys in the car, and survived both DDT and lead paint with no ill effects.

ThreeCrow
03-26-2005, 08:25 AM
November, 1944

Upside:

Building BIG balsawood models of P40 and Corsair while listening to "Gunsmoke" or "Inner Sanctum" on the radio (no screaming political rant spew).

Reading "Eerie Tales" comic books, finding out about the wonderful "difference" in anatomy from "National Geographic".

Riding horses in the country, leaving the keys in the car while at the movie theater, leaving house unlocked, real food that tasted...well... like real food. Having Walt Disney proclaim that war would be impossible once there were satellites (sattelites?). Real airplanes with propellors and the scent of high octane. In and out of Viet Nam before Tet... coming home. Short skirts, great music and the silly optimism that lead us to think that we could really change the world.

Downside:

Atomic bomb drills (Duck and Cover), having friends who had polio, having a girlfriend who was "late" (before the 'pill'), assassinated President, blown up churches, attack dogs and firehoses, and all those lies....all those ****ing lies.

Wonder Bread.

ThreeCrow
03-26-2005, 08:32 AM
Forgot... being able to identify EVERY car on the road. Waving at other drivers of TR3s. Seeing Phil Hill and Shelby race Ferraris at Palm Springs. 1949 DeSotos with chair high seats and room.

Drive in movies and......

fordfan25
03-26-2005, 09:18 AM
Ah those were in fact the days. i was born in 1977 and grew up in the town of Sebastian florida in the 80s.that was like a retelling of my life lol. i realy do feel sorry for most of the kids these days. sure thay have alot of tech stuff but the magic is just gone. just take a look at the cr@p that thay have to watch on saterday mornings now. thay just sit around all day playing with japo cards about some spikey headed weirdo who plays with monsters or play crude like GTA3 and get fat and lazy. makes me want to dig out my old skate board lol.

ForkTailedDevil
03-26-2005, 09:59 AM
3-21-78
Grew up in Northern California. Played Atari when I was 5. Watched TV, played video games, rode my bike all day, stayed out nearly all night playing war with my friends in the neighborhood. A lot of today's kids are missing out it is to bad for them.

Monson74
03-27-2005, 08:06 AM
Oh I forgot: The C64! Now THAT one ruined my teens... - didn't date much you know http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Buzzsaw-
03-27-2005, 11:19 AM
Salute

I grew up in that generation, and I think the poster of this thread is looking back through rose coloured glasses, either that or suffering delusions... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

That generation saw far higher deaths per capita from auto accidents because we were all driving around in overpowered, underbraked, unsafe handling cars. 50,000 people died A YEAR in the U.S. in car accidents during the time the Vietnam war was on. Yes, that's what I said, 50,000, the same number that died fighting in Vietnam.

It wasn't till lawyers like Ralph Nader, bless his soul, took on the fatcats at the big three and forced them to make their cars safer, that the death rate started to decline.

And how about pollution? That was the generation which grew up to find out that the unfettered 'pollute as you go' system of the '50's and '60's was leading to things like Love Canal in Buffalo, or smog blankets over L.A. Try to think how bad L.A. would be now if we still didn't have anti-pollution equipment on cars.... It would be a permanent grey haze and lung cancer rates would be 10 times what they are now. Thank Nader and the enviromental lawyers again.

Yes, I loved the fact that I as a kid, ran free, and did whatever I wanted. Almost got hit by a car a couple times, nearly got run over by a train, nearly drowned when my self-made raft drifted out to sea, broke bones etc. I would love for kids today to have that kind of freedom...

But the rest of the cr*p that went on back then.... No thanks. We are better off now.

Fliegeroffizier
03-27-2005, 11:44 AM
born '43

Going to the movies/theatre/cinema was the week's highlight. Before TV was available(in my home)!! It cost a mere 10 Cents for the whole 'experience'...a news film, cartoon, and TWO feature movies.....and for the first couple of years they were still doing the "prize-give-away" race movies, where there would be some sort of Comedy foot race or bicycle race shown in a 5-7 minute movie, and if your ticket/stub had the number of the Winner of the movie-race, you got some sort of prize like a cheap boardgame. At teh age of 5, I once won some sort of Sink-the-Battleship game played with marbles(my Very First Wargame). In addition to or instead of the race-movie, sometimes you got to see one of the short Adventure Serial movies, which always ended with some sort of 'cliff-hanging' situation...like Rocket-Man type hero with ill-fitting hero-costume and corny special effects...Yep, ALL that for ONLY Ten Cents! $0.10

Walked to and from the theater, a distance of perhaps 5 or 6 miles each way(or occasionally took a bus..which had just recently replaced the trolley...for a nickle $0.05). If the main movie was an Errol Flynn Pirate adventure, it was a running sword fight with sticks as swords all the way home for those 5 or 6 miles.

Going to the movies on a Saturday or Sunday was an all day event, and a safe one, for a couple of 7 or 8 year old buddies out on their own WithOut any parents or other adult supervision (Can you believe that???Man, the world has changed, it seems, and not necessarily for the better in terms of safety for kids).

...and I never had a house key and don't think my parents had any either...the doors were never locked. (we didn't have anything worth stealing anyway)...

DuxCorvan
03-27-2005, 03:29 PM
Ooops, I forgot about morning cinema. There was one near my school, they always put cr@ppy B-series movies, and all the kids went there on Saturday. You could take food, drinks, talk, and do whatever you wanted. When I was 13 I used to go with my friend Oscar and laughed all the time about the movie's errors and the ridiculous acting and situations. There was always someone who made funny comments with a loud voice, and everybody laughed and joked, it was f**in' funny. But that was before cinemas started to disappear and tickets to cost like a night at the opera...

F4UDash4
03-27-2005, 03:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tallyho1961:
April 2, 1961.

Where I grew up most of us had .22 rifles and dirt bikes by the time we were 13. Three or four of us would wander up past the local school with rifes slung over our shoulders and pockets full of bullets. No one thought anything of it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was born in 1962. Once in school we had to give a speech in which we instructed the class on how to do some task. I choose "Cleaning a Shotgun". Walked right into class carrying a broke down single shot 20 gauge, never even got a second glance.

Can you imagine doing that today?

BaldieJr
03-27-2005, 03:47 PM
Every generation thinks thiers was the last happy childhood.

When i was a kid we'd abduct adults and deny them thier dope while forcing them to hold hands. We were totally crazy back then.

F4UDash4
03-27-2005, 03:49 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by bigchump:
04-23-47

My dad survived Tarawa and Iwo Jima (barely).
My father-in-law flew B-24's, including the first raid on Ploesti.

They both told me to shut my mouth and quit whining about how tough Vietnam was... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

A salute and a big hardy thank you to you, your father and your father-in-law!

Airmail109
03-27-2005, 04:03 PM
God i haaaaaaaaaaate Lawers!!!!!!!!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif If I decide to bring up a family when Im older, Im going to settle down in a nice remote part of the world. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif