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Skarp-Hedin
12-23-2004, 04:42 PM
I keep hearing that PF is dead allready in these forums. what's going on? did they not finnish the game like lomac? if it is...I'll stick with lomac and just buy the expansion. no need to be going through the same problems twice.

Die_Hard1
12-23-2004, 05:07 PM
I like this game...but you cant say to someone get this game or dont get this game. It's all opinion.

Athosd
12-23-2004, 05:17 PM
PF isn't dead - its hardly even started its run.

Posts in the "its dead" vein tend to be from a core of malcontents who persist in hanging around here rather than playing the game or moving on to something else.

The newest update has been delayed by various things - not the least being the Trademark infringement accussation thing (which thoroughly soured this forum for a while).
However Oleg has stated that support, updates etc will definitely continue - might take a few more weeks though.

PF as an add-on to Forgotten Battles+Aces Expansion Pack is great - as a stand alone its less impressive, but many new players who've tried it really enjoy it (some then pick up the rest of the series to get the full experience).

Out of the box the game is stable - complaints about it being incomplete relate primarily to the lack of some aircraft (carrier torp bombers in particular) and certain aspects of single player (dynamic campaigns can be boring, small set of single play missions).

If you are into WW2 aviation then IMHO its definitely worth the money.

Cheers

Athos

Soapy_112th
12-23-2004, 05:32 PM
As a standalone, I don't know, but if you already have FB and AEP then yes, you should.

This game is not dead, at least as far as the servers on Hyperlobby and the many, many Squadrons who fly practices and Co ops will testify too.

For les than 20 you can make missions, skin planes, even use a your own face as a pilot, and also fly online too !!!

I spend more thinking about going to the boozer http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

LuftKuhMist
12-23-2004, 05:40 PM
As a stand-alone: NO

As an expansion, Yes even if it's a little expensive. After patch it's way better but before patch it ain't very good.

nearmiss
12-23-2004, 05:43 PM
Buy it you won't regret it.

You can probably pick up all the pre-PF (FB-AEP) from used bookstores that sell software on the cheap.

Also, Ebay is pretty cheap as well.

Bearcat99
12-23-2004, 05:45 PM
Is PF dead? Ennnhhhhh depends on who you ask.... is FB 3.0 dead? Not on your life. If you want to get PF then spend the extra $30 and get the Forgotten Battles GOLD pack which is Forgoptten Battles and the Aces Expansion pack in one neat package. Install FB, ACES, PF and then get the 3 patches.... PF 3.01m, PF 3.02bc and lastly PF 3.02bm. You wont be sorry at all. It is hands down the most STUNNING WW2 sim to date. Buy it and be happy. Ignore the naysayers...... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

MBJakon
12-23-2004, 05:45 PM
Do you wanna alienate all of your loved ones?

As a relatively new participant to the online sim club, PF is the best I've seen, and it still continues to amaze me. After about 3 months of pretty serious playing (3 hrs a night at most), I'm just starting to really fly. Best 40 bones I ever dropped.

Skarp-Hedin
12-23-2004, 10:10 PM
I allready have il2fb, aep, so I shall buy it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

btw the expansion for lomac will be sweet!

fordfan25
12-24-2004, 12:06 AM
yes. its worth it if you liked fb and aep. as long as your even some what into the pto

HotelBushranger
12-24-2004, 02:11 AM
yeah, gettin PF for chrissie tomorow...hopefully http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

and btw: whats LOMAC like? i played the demo, and it just seemed to consist of pushing several buttons i read in the read me, and thats it. how bout the whole game?

WOLFMondo
12-24-2004, 02:22 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Skarp-Hedin:
I keep hearing that PF is dead allready in these forums. what's going on? did they not finnish the game like lomac? if it is...I'll stick with lomac and just buy the expansion. no need to be going through the same problems twice. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Its not dead, go buy it. As a merged install it doesn't only give a new theatre to FB it adds more units and planes to the existing theatres. I think also all patches now will be for standalone or merged install. This means the Mossie and the Tempest http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif...I'd give Oleg the 30 PF cost me just for those 2 planes.

Ronin_3ra2004
12-24-2004, 05:02 AM
On Forgotten Battles+Aces Expansion Pack PF is the best FlightSim at the moment

Skarp-Hedin
12-24-2004, 11:58 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> posted by HotelBushranger,
and btw: whats LOMAC like? i played the demo, and it just seemed to consist of pushing several buttons i read in the read me, and thats it. how bout the whole game? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

the demo suckes and so does the manual. now with the patches lomac is pretty much il2fb but with jets and better graphics. only a few things missing to make it a must buy sim would be an f-18, dedicated server, and dynamic campaign. there are carrier ops on it with the su-33 that is very fun http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

but to answer your question about if it's just a sim that you press lots of buttons. well no only a little more then il2fb. just the big difference is that lomac is very complicated and you fly jets rather then props