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KrashanTopolova
06-25-2008, 11:40 PM
The il-2 Paintschemes Folder lists the flyable Y-80 as a P-80. However, I believe the difference was that the P-80 had wingtip pods.
To some people this could make the Y-80 more attractive in the game and more to the historical fact (I believe wingtip-podded Shooting Stars were deployed against the Berlin Blockade).

Anyone else with info and the same need for a real P-80 as an add-on?


Please

KrashanTopolova
06-25-2008, 11:40 PM
The il-2 Paintschemes Folder lists the flyable Y-80 as a P-80. However, I believe the difference was that the P-80 had wingtip pods.
To some people this could make the Y-80 more attractive in the game and more to the historical fact (I believe wingtip-podded Shooting Stars were deployed against the Berlin Blockade).

Anyone else with info and the same need for a real P-80 as an add-on?


Please

PanzerAce
06-26-2008, 12:04 AM
First off, there was never a simply 'y-80', there were the YP-80 pre-production builds however. Also, as far as I have been able to find, the wingtip pods were actually a field fitting, and thus optional. I have see block A, B, and C model P/F-80s both with and without the pods.

luftluuver
06-26-2008, 02:21 AM
Leaving the wingtip tanks on actually improved the performance over not having them on.

JG53Frankyboy
06-26-2008, 04:04 AM
a serial P-80 had airbrakes , the YP-80 not.

our ingame has no airbrakes...........

Copperhead311th
06-26-2008, 10:06 AM
Gibbage did model in the air breaks if i remember correctly.
He submited both the YP-80 & the P-80 A to Oleg. but the YP was what got included.
If i remember what Oleg said correctly was (paraphrasing here) "P-80 too good. No other aicraft in sim is as good. why we only incude YP-80."

Or somthing to that affect. So if my memory is fuctioning right, lol it was OM who opted not to have the P-80A.

It was his baby so Kevin would know more.
I'm sure he'll pop in here if he sees it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

joeap
06-26-2008, 10:10 AM
P-80 with muppet pilot won teh war. Fakt. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Gibbage1
06-26-2008, 11:40 PM
Its a YP-80, same as what was in Italy before the wars end. The US also had a good number ready for the Pacific, but there was no big rush. P-80A had air brakes and a more powerful engine, plus the wing tank option.

As for Oleg's reasons, I dont know. I can only assume. The model I made did have the air brakes on it, so he chose to make it into a YP, and not a P-80A. I can only assume that he did this since it was more in line with the product is was being released in, FB. Im sure that if it was being released in 1946, he would of given us the P-80A to deal with the more advanced Luft46 stuff being released. Why he didn's give us a P-80A in 1946, I have no idea. He had the tip tanks and air brakes for a simple conversion. Instead we have a bunch of 1st gen Russian jets vs 3rd gen German uber wonders.

Enforcer572005
06-27-2008, 12:50 AM
what a pity the A model was left outta the 46 project. Your P80 is my fav ride of the sim. I've worked for a yr on my Redstar/Whitestar 1947 project, and it's the primary AC.

I sure needed those drop tanks a few times, as these are some pretty long range misns sometimes on the Kyushu or Manchuria maps. I had to airstart a ffew of them to simulate the point at which the tip tanks would run dry. Didnt it hazve bomb racks and 4 5in rocket rails in the A model?

Anyway, It was a great machine for this cmpn, and Im finishing it up by letting the player take on some Ta-183s in the role of La-16s (they were based on the design) a couple of yrs after the initial fight.

I bet there are some guys who have a "project" that is verbotten here who would love to have the features that were left out. I for one love your creation.

Here is the thread I made on the skins Im using in my 47 project, but there is only one shot of the P80 in it.
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/45410763/m/4151014266

KrashanTopolova
06-27-2008, 07:20 PM
Thanks for replies...very interesting.

useful info on relevant Cold War p-80 history may be found here: www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/usaf/62fs.htm (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/usaf/62fs.htm)

nice WWII photo of 62nd pilots and Logo (P-47's) here: www.leisuregalleries.com/62ndfs/62ndwebpage.html (http://www.leisuregalleries.com/62ndfs/62ndwebpage.html)

I believe the 61st, 62nd and 63rd are flying F-16's now