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JtD
02-21-2008, 01:44 PM
Thor posted a link to a tv show episode over at our battlefields forum that contains a few guncam clips. ( original topic (http://www.battle-fields.com/commscentre/showthread.php?t=17107))

In one short scene we find an American fighter doing a strafing run and it blows up an ammunition car. The scene itself seems to be featured frequently. Easily missed, the explosion also kills a friendly aircraft on the left edge of the screen. It seems to disintegrate midair. Quite shocking. I do wonder now, who that pilot was. Does somebody around here now guncam clips well enough to know from which squadron that scene comes? Or maybe this incident already has been investigated?

Some screenshots, maybe some of you recognize:
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/2199/image1tf8.jpg

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/2071/image2eu2.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/6053/image3yk8.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/9730/image4zb1.jpg

JtD
02-21-2008, 01:44 PM
Thor posted a link to a tv show episode over at our battlefields forum that contains a few guncam clips. ( original topic (http://www.battle-fields.com/commscentre/showthread.php?t=17107))

In one short scene we find an American fighter doing a strafing run and it blows up an ammunition car. The scene itself seems to be featured frequently. Easily missed, the explosion also kills a friendly aircraft on the left edge of the screen. It seems to disintegrate midair. Quite shocking. I do wonder now, who that pilot was. Does somebody around here now guncam clips well enough to know from which squadron that scene comes? Or maybe this incident already has been investigated?

Some screenshots, maybe some of you recognize:
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/2199/image1tf8.jpg

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/2071/image2eu2.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/6053/image3yk8.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/9730/image4zb1.jpg

Choctaw111
02-21-2008, 03:45 PM
Wow. That pilot must have felt awful. Does that plane really get destroyed? Do you have a link to the movie clip? I am sorry, but I do not have the answer you are looking for.

MM-Zorin
02-21-2008, 03:51 PM
You can see the embeded clip in the first post on the battlefields thread, JtD provided the link for.

Rjel
02-21-2008, 04:12 PM
I can't tell you how many times I've wondered the exact same thing. I've seen that clip hundreds of times in many different documentaries. My all time favorite wartime doc is called "Fight for the Sky" produced by the USAAF. If you see a good clean version of this clip, you'll see what appears to be the right wing shear off just as the clip ends. No way the pilot could've survived. I read an account somewhere once about a plane strafing a train that supposedly was carrying V-1s. Of course the resulting explosion destroyed the strafing plane. I've wondered many times if this might be that incident filmed from a trailing A/C?

Choctaw111
02-21-2008, 07:25 PM
I watched the whole thing and was very informative. There were things in that film I had not seen before.

JtD
02-25-2008, 01:11 AM
So, if I wanted to research that question, where would be a good point to start?

KG66_Gog
02-25-2008, 01:41 AM
You're going to need the exact date. With anything less than that you will just be guessing.

JtD
02-25-2008, 06:02 AM
Well, yes. But where do I get that?

rnzoli
02-25-2008, 06:16 AM
Maybe try contacting the guy who posted the clip?

BTW, it may be just simple camera blur as the shockwaves shake the aircraft carrying the camera.

And in any case, we all know that strafing was a mug game. Some won, some lost. I can see no reason to blame the pilot, not even by himself.

Niklert
02-25-2008, 07:56 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=stfC__BeQZY&feature=related

Here's the video. The specified clip can you see at 17:09. Very interessting.

Niklert
02-25-2008, 08:29 AM
teamkilling happens. But it's not normal in air combats. It's very normal in close infantry combat though.