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Taylortony
11-03-2007, 10:02 PM
US fighter plane found on beach

The site where the plan was found is being protected
The wreck of a rare American fighter plane which is thought to have crashed during World War II has appeared on a north Wales beach.
The Lockheed-P38 Lightning has surfaced after more than 60 years because of a change in the beach levels.

Experts from the US have visited the site and confirmed there are no other examples of the aircraft in Europe.

Gwynedd Council's maritime department is to protect the site of the plane while its restoration is arranged.

Barry Davies, maritime officer for the council, said he has known about the wreckage near Harlech for several weeks.

He said the plane was found by a member of the public who was walking on the beach.

High octane fuel

The plane is visible at certain stages of the tide and Mr Davies has visited the site himself and seen the wings.

He said: "It still has a lot of high octane fuel onboard, so it's important that the public doesn't go near it."

Mr Davies said it is probably the first time the aircraft has been seen since crashing.

"There's been a draw down of the beach level so it probably hasn't been exposed before," he added.

Experts from the US have been over to examine the wreckage but no decision has been made about how it will be recovered from the sand.


Another P-38 Lightning was discovered in Greenland and restored

He said: "At the moment it's going to be a difficult and expensive process to salvage it because of its location."

Gwynedd council is not revealing the precise location of the wreckage in the interest of public safety and to protect the aircraft.

The Lockheed P-38 was designed in 1937. According to the US Air Force, 9,923 P-38s were built by 1945, but only 27 of the aircraft survive.


Another Lockheed P-38, forced to land in Greenland in bad weather during World War II, became buried under ice there. It was finally flown to Britain in June.

From BBC

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/7076941.stm

Taylortony
11-03-2007, 10:02 PM
US fighter plane found on beach

The site where the plan was found is being protected
The wreck of a rare American fighter plane which is thought to have crashed during World War II has appeared on a north Wales beach.
The Lockheed-P38 Lightning has surfaced after more than 60 years because of a change in the beach levels.

Experts from the US have visited the site and confirmed there are no other examples of the aircraft in Europe.

Gwynedd Council's maritime department is to protect the site of the plane while its restoration is arranged.

Barry Davies, maritime officer for the council, said he has known about the wreckage near Harlech for several weeks.

He said the plane was found by a member of the public who was walking on the beach.

High octane fuel

The plane is visible at certain stages of the tide and Mr Davies has visited the site himself and seen the wings.

He said: "It still has a lot of high octane fuel onboard, so it's important that the public doesn't go near it."

Mr Davies said it is probably the first time the aircraft has been seen since crashing.

"There's been a draw down of the beach level so it probably hasn't been exposed before," he added.

Experts from the US have been over to examine the wreckage but no decision has been made about how it will be recovered from the sand.


Another P-38 Lightning was discovered in Greenland and restored

He said: "At the moment it's going to be a difficult and expensive process to salvage it because of its location."

Gwynedd council is not revealing the precise location of the wreckage in the interest of public safety and to protect the aircraft.

The Lockheed P-38 was designed in 1937. According to the US Air Force, 9,923 P-38s were built by 1945, but only 27 of the aircraft survive.


Another Lockheed P-38, forced to land in Greenland in bad weather during World War II, became buried under ice there. It was finally flown to Britain in June.

From BBC

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/7076941.stm

Daiichidoku
11-03-2007, 10:21 PM
right ON!

hope it was non fatal accident

wonder if the pilot will be reunited?

M_Gunz
11-03-2007, 10:57 PM
A live pilot would have reported where it was ditched.

60 years under seawater, not fresh water. Rename the plane as Barnacle Bill?

JG52Uther
11-04-2007, 10:46 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by M_Gunz:


60 years under seawater, not fresh water. Rename the plane as Barnacle Bill? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Doubt there would be much left of it.

M4Sherman4
11-04-2007, 10:49 AM
stainless steel and aluminum. so it is probably intact

Choctaw111
11-04-2007, 02:38 PM
I am looking forward to seeing what kind of shape it is in.

trumper
11-15-2007, 01:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Taylortony:



Another Lockheed P-38, forced to land in Greenland in bad weather during World War II, became buried under ice there. It was finally flown to Britain in June.

From BBC

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/7076941.stm </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Nice to see the BBC reported an event which never happened so accurately http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Glacier Girl had engine problems en route and the flight was abandoned http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif
I wonder if the USA will claim ownership of the beached P38 or whether she will be kept in the UK.
I do hope the pilot survived the crash.

general_kalle
11-15-2007, 01:42 PM
was posted more accuratly earlier.

TheBandit_76
11-15-2007, 02:59 PM
Uh, TaylorTony, guys?

Some of you even participated in the other thread about this same P38.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/11_02/planepopup1_800x654.jpg

berg417448
11-15-2007, 03:23 PM
Check the date. This thread was the first.

Casey1976
11-15-2007, 03:23 PM
According to the story I read, the pilot survived the crash, but was later lost in North Africa...never recovered the plane or the pilot, 2nd Lt Robert Elliott.

Here's the link:

http://news.aol.com/story/_a/wwii-fighter-plane-discove...id=NWS00010000000001 (http://news.aol.com/story/_a/wwii-fighter-plane-discovered-on-beach/20071114164709990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001)

Regards,

KC

berg417448
11-15-2007, 03:53 PM
http://blogs.knoxnews.com/knx/fredbrown/2007/11/glacier...ill_holds_oldes.html (http://blogs.knoxnews.com/knx/fredbrown/2007/11/glacier_girl_still_holds_oldes.html)