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Kaleun1961
10-17-2005, 01:10 PM
Last night I sailed after a British fishing boat that was in my way. I had avoided him several times, but he kept coming back across my path so I decided it was time to get rid of him. As I was in a Type II, I only had the 20mm flak gun, which is enough anyway to do the job. As I moved in on him, I saw tracer rounds coming at me. What the H?

I moved in closer at top speed to minimize my exposure to his fire. Using my binoculars, I could make out the detail of a machine-gunner on top of the boathouse. After a few clips of AA, she went under. Now the question is, who armed the fishing fleet? I figure one of the recent mods I installed has sprung a nasty surprise on us.

I recently reinstalled my game afresh, then added Real U-boat, the new harbour traffic mod and a few others which add mainly sounds and textures. Does anyone from the modding community wish to step forward and "confess?" Perhaps it is in one of the readme files; I just haven't seen this change mentioned.

Chrystine, they are now fair game! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Kaleun1961
10-17-2005, 01:10 PM
Last night I sailed after a British fishing boat that was in my way. I had avoided him several times, but he kept coming back across my path so I decided it was time to get rid of him. As I was in a Type II, I only had the 20mm flak gun, which is enough anyway to do the job. As I moved in on him, I saw tracer rounds coming at me. What the H?

I moved in closer at top speed to minimize my exposure to his fire. Using my binoculars, I could make out the detail of a machine-gunner on top of the boathouse. After a few clips of AA, she went under. Now the question is, who armed the fishing fleet? I figure one of the recent mods I installed has sprung a nasty surprise on us.

I recently reinstalled my game afresh, then added Real U-boat, the new harbour traffic mod and a few others which add mainly sounds and textures. Does anyone from the modding community wish to step forward and "confess?" Perhaps it is in one of the readme files; I just haven't seen this change mentioned.

Chrystine, they are now fair game! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Celeon999
10-17-2005, 01:27 PM
Ah those militant fishers http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Fekin_Von_dEtRi
10-17-2005, 02:26 PM
heh, that's better than what I get.
Just lately my fishing boats have been dying on me for no reason.
I generally leave them be as mine do not shoot at me, lol, but quite often as I watch them sail by, they start to sink, and then are gone, leaving a werckage icon on the map.

Unless this is some secret addon us English upgraded our fishing fleet with, they are really small uboats http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Kaleun1961
10-17-2005, 02:29 PM
We had a discussion here a little while back about the "ethics" of attacking fishing boats and trawlers. Some are inclined to leave them alone, while others, like me, see them as cheap and quick tonnage bonus. In real life I would have left them alone unless they interfered with my operations, but in the game you are rewarded for sinking them, so I sink them.

jooo9
10-17-2005, 02:52 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kaleun1961:
I recently reinstalled my game afresh, then added Real U-boat, the new harbour traffic mod and a few others which add mainly sounds and textures. Does anyone from the modding community wish to step forward and "confess?" Perhaps it is in one of the readme files; I just haven't seen this change mentioned. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
You reinstalled the whole game just to get rid of a mod? You need that JSGME program.

Fishing boats were armed with little guns because they had little effect on the economy of Britan. C3s were armed with bigger guns because they had bigger guns.

Kaleun1961
10-17-2005, 03:02 PM
I do use the mod installer. I think it is best for me on occasion to do a total reinstall, because so many mods have overwritten other mods, and then there are the manual changes I have also made, customizing sounds and such.

I've played this game a lot, but this was the first time a fishing boat has ever fired at me. It has me wondering if one of the latest mods has changed something.

NaturalBornGoth
10-17-2005, 04:10 PM
@Fekin_Von_dEtRi

It's totally off topic but i have to say that i like your avatar! That's Threnody, isn't it? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Kaleun1961
10-17-2005, 04:24 PM
Gee, is it just me or does anybody else suddenly feel, you know, old?

NaturalBornGoth
10-17-2005, 05:46 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kaleun1961:
Gee, is it just me or does anybody else suddenly feel, you know, old? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What? Why? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Mylo42
10-17-2005, 05:54 PM
Kaleun,

I take out the fishing boats with the AA....cause I enjoy shooting the AA and watching them sink. I want to send the message that nobody is safe in MY waters. Would I do it in real life, no but, I haven't quite lost grip with the fact that this is NOT real life. so.....rat tat tat I go.

Mylo42

Chrystine
10-17-2005, 06:09 PM
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Gruß, wieder Kamerad!

€œUsing my binoculars, I could make out the detail of a machine-gunner on top of the boathouse.€

Have to love it tho€!
That€s awesome€¦
It would throw me a rather €˜rude€ surprise as well were I to see such, I must say.

I€ve perhaps been at sea in my U-boat€s €˜too-long€ now €" and no longer feel any moral compunction regarding the sinking of any vessel (excepting an early war, lone Pax-Liner: by mid €40, they€re in bad straights if they cross my path).

Fishing boats I still regard as valid targets precisely in the sense you mention here: Operational Security.
Eyes + Radio = valid target. Period.
That€s my thinking.
I know that€s rather cold €" but being dead oneself is much colder.

That will be great if able to track down the authority who €˜authorized€ mounting machinegun on the fishing boats €" greater still if it will prove something which can be replicated by some €˜manual edit€ somewhere.
I€d love to see some armed fishermen! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

€œChrystine, they are now fair game! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif €œ

They€re now more gamy! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Best, as ever €"
~ C.

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Kaleun1961
10-17-2005, 08:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NaturalBornGoth:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kaleun1961:
Gee, is it just me or does anybody else suddenly feel, you know, old? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What? Why? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm guessing you are referring to a band? I used to know all the latest groups, but at 44 I'm no kid anymore. When I hear younger folks talking about bands, tied in with your name, Goth, a scene way after my time, it gets me feeling that time has really flown. In my day it was Led Zeppelin, The Who, Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, etc.

NaturalBornGoth
10-17-2005, 08:58 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kaleun1961:
I'm guessing you are referring to a band? I used to know all the latest groups, but at 44 I'm no kid anymore. When I hear younger folks talking about bands, tied in with your name, Goth, a scene way after my time, it gets me feeling that time has really flown. In my day it was Led Zeppelin, The Who, Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, etc. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Being 29 i'm not that young anymore, as well. And no, i wasn't refereing to a band, but to the girl in the Fekin_Von_dEtRi's avatar image. She's a beautiful gothic photography model from spain, and the image he uses as an avatar makes for a great wallpaper. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

And "The Who" is one of my favorite bands. In fact i think "Won't get fooled again" is one of the best songs of all time! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The goth scene, at least over here in Europe, is a very eclectic bunch of people with a very wide spectrum of musical interests, ranging from classical music, classcial rock, pop, even country and lots of other stuff. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Hm... looks like we have a talent for steering topics off course and into the next sandbank! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

blue_76
10-17-2005, 09:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NaturalBornGoth:
The goth scene, at least over here in Europe, is a very eclectic bunch of people with a very wide spectrum of musical interests, ranging from classical music, classcial rock, pop, even country and lots of other stuff. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

hmm i always thought goth people enjoyed heavy metal and dark wave.. its hard to imagine a goth with a country flavor http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

NaturalBornGoth
10-18-2005, 08:43 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by blue_76:
hmm i always thought goth people enjoyed heavy metal and dark wave.. its hard to imagine a goth with a country flavor http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sure! That's our main interest. I just meant to say that we do not fanatically stick to only those genres but pick nice pieces of music from all other genres as well. But yeah, there are also Country-Goths. It's always fun seeing all the varieties at the clubs. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

vanjast
10-18-2005, 10:49 AM
Kaleun:
The older people survive the longest, resulting from a load of experience and matured fool-hardiness.
Clocking 45 and still full of beans (or was that viagra http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif ). Can't remember what I swallowed. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Yup those were the better Bands. Pity there are so few bands like that nowdays, I mean the ones that can read and write their own music. Not to forget play a musical instrument. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Kaleun1961
10-18-2005, 11:32 AM
Goth, don't be so hard on yourself; 29 is still young to me. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I thought your reference to the avatar was a musician, thanks for clearing that one up.

Yup, vJ, I have to echo that sentiment. The big bands are few and far between these days. It seems to me that there are more niche bands, which is not necessarily a bad thing, but I sure miss those classic rock bands. Guns & Roses were promising, until Axl went into meltdown. Pity. His lyrics were so good because they came from his intense pain, but ultimately, I think it was his undoing. Sorry, I can't accept the rest of the guys calling themselves GnR, not without Axl. It's like Van Halen without David Lee Roth. Sammy Hagar blows.

The thing that really hit me with Led Zeppelin is that just when I got old enough to really get into the lyrics and go to the concerts, Bonham dies. I like the Stones, but I prefer the stuff they did in the 60's and 70's. I still cling to my classic rock, but I'm much more likely to go to a Dwight Yoakam concert.

Yes, these topics do go ashore at times, but it's nice to talk about something else, other than the war all the time, eh my fellow Kaleuns?

Stingray-65
10-18-2005, 01:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kaleun1961:
Guns & Roses were promising, until Axl went into meltdown. Pity. His lyrics were so good because they came from his intense pain, but ultimately, I think it was his undoing. Sorry, I can't accept the rest of the guys calling themselves GnR, not without Axl. It's like Van Halen without David Lee Roth. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Pardon the pun, but it sounds like we're in the same boat. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif You're right, although he now owns the name & the rights to everything they did, Axl isn't GNR. He was a part of GNR & he ruined it. What a shame... they were one of the best. About VH, I like Hagar OK, but VH was best with Roth. Roth had his faults, but he was a great singer/song writer/front man. He was fun! With Hagar, VH "grew up" & quit playing party music. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif I'm older too now, but I do still love the party music of the '80s metal bands.

Gonna watch those fishing boats more closely from now on. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Kaleun1961
10-18-2005, 01:24 PM
You'll know if they're armed as you approach them. They'll start firing tracer rounds at you. If you haven't modded your game lately, chances are you'll be okay.

Mylo42
10-18-2005, 10:17 PM
Kaleun,

Rush is still around. Now THERE is longevity. I think ZZTop still tours as well. Getting a little "long in the tooth" though, kinda like watching your grandpa and his buddy jam....still love'm though. Bands today are lucky if they make it 30 weeks never mind 30 years. I don't mind Nickelback, I must admit, as far as "new" bands go. I listen to them when I work out. Good 'ol boys from Hanna Alberta. Country is my thing though, but even that is getting too "main stream". Weylon, Willie, and the boys must just cringe when they look at what's happened. Probably never see a time like the 90's again when Garth was king. I enjoyed that era.

Long live Garth !!


Mylo42

Kaleun1961
10-19-2005, 02:13 PM
Hi Milo. I now Rush is a big fave of Canadians, but I just never got into them. Gedde Lee just creeps me out and I can't stand his girly voice. My favourite Canadian bands include, but not limited to: BTO, Tragically Hip, April Wine. There are others of course, these just spring to mind.

I grew up on country as both my parents were fans. All I got to hear in the car going to hockey games was CFGM: Conway Twitty, George Jones, etc. Hee Haw was on TV and was watched every episode. I really hated all that stuff when I was a kid and escaped into my older brother's record collection: Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Deep Purple, etc. When he caught me sneaking into his collection he would kick the snot out of me.

As I got older I one day it seemed developed again an appreciation of country music. In my earlier days of driving 18-wheelers sometimes a country station was all I could pull in on the cheap AM radios that my company had in the trucks. It was Randy Travis who got me back into it. The clincher was Dwight Yoakam. I've got all his albums except for his Christmas album and I've been to two concerts. The last one I went to was when he was up here in Canada at the time of the 911 attack. I thought he would cancel, but he came through, got over the border and put on his show. He spoke to the audience about his appreciation of how Canada helped the immediate refugees of those attacks, those Americans caught in planes that had to land immediately in Canada. There was a big American flag behind him; and he put on a great show.

Like you, I don't like much of the newer stuff. It all seems so generic and trying to pull in some rock type sounds. It just doesn't go over well. Then they make those stupid videos with the ****ty girls and such. Doesn't do it for me. I still like to get out my old Johnny Cash, Merle Haggard or Marty Robbins. I never thought I'd ever say that I liked that stuff, but I do now.

Post 1000, where's my prize?

Kaleun1961
10-19-2005, 02:17 PM
What a gyp! I just typed out a post which I have been informed is being held by administrators because it contained one or more "trigger words." Can't think what I said was all that bad. I was telling Mylo about my musical preferences. Maybe it was my reference to my older brother who used to kick my b-u-t-t when I stole his Led Zeppelin records. Nothing offensive. Oh wait, I think I made a reference to modern videos which have s-l-u-t-t-y girls in them? Gee, is that such a bad word?

Kaleun1961
10-19-2005, 02:18 PM
It seems all you have to do if you want to cuss is to hyphenate between each letter like this:

d-o-g p-o-o-p

Ooh, what a weapon we now wield!