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Taylortony
10-06-2005, 01:32 PM
Katrina didn't just hit the Cities

The USS Alabama, Initial damage assessments show that Battleship ALABAMA (BB-60) has shifted position and is listing some 5+/- degrees to the portside or landside. The aft concrete gangway leading up to the ship has been critically damaged. The Aircraft Pavilion has significant damage to all sides and may be a complete loss. Many aircraft and displays inside the Pavilion have been severely damaged. Submarine USS DRUM (SS-228) has apparently suffered little, if any, damage.

Although the Pavilion and Gift Shop were completely boarded for protection, Katrina’s winds, with a 108 mile-per-hour blast recorded at the Park while the Wind Gauge was still operational, ripped the boards from both buildings. Breaches to the Pavilion exterior are numerous. The Gift Shop glass walls were broken, with two feet plus of water in the building, which houses the Ticket Office, Gift Shop, Inventory Stock Room, and Snack Bar.

Before

http://www.ussalabama.com/html/collection/index.php

http://www.ussalabama.com/images/hanger.jpg

now and that's the mustang under that lot http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

http://www.ussalabama.com/html/photos/pavillion12.jpg

http://www.ussalabama.com/html/photos/pavillionint03.jpg

Before

http://www.ussalabama.com/images/finished-ship.jpg

After

http://www.ussalabama.com/html/photos/100_0196.jpg


They are asking for help....

http://www.ussalabama.com/html/news/index.cgi?action=fullscreen&primary_key=46

More of the Damage

http://www.ussalabama.com/html/photos/index.php

Taylortony
10-06-2005, 01:32 PM
Katrina didn't just hit the Cities

The USS Alabama, Initial damage assessments show that Battleship ALABAMA (BB-60) has shifted position and is listing some 5+/- degrees to the portside or landside. The aft concrete gangway leading up to the ship has been critically damaged. The Aircraft Pavilion has significant damage to all sides and may be a complete loss. Many aircraft and displays inside the Pavilion have been severely damaged. Submarine USS DRUM (SS-228) has apparently suffered little, if any, damage.

Although the Pavilion and Gift Shop were completely boarded for protection, Katrina’s winds, with a 108 mile-per-hour blast recorded at the Park while the Wind Gauge was still operational, ripped the boards from both buildings. Breaches to the Pavilion exterior are numerous. The Gift Shop glass walls were broken, with two feet plus of water in the building, which houses the Ticket Office, Gift Shop, Inventory Stock Room, and Snack Bar.

Before

http://www.ussalabama.com/html/collection/index.php

http://www.ussalabama.com/images/hanger.jpg

now and that's the mustang under that lot http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

http://www.ussalabama.com/html/photos/pavillion12.jpg

http://www.ussalabama.com/html/photos/pavillionint03.jpg

Before

http://www.ussalabama.com/images/finished-ship.jpg

After

http://www.ussalabama.com/html/photos/100_0196.jpg


They are asking for help....

http://www.ussalabama.com/html/news/index.cgi?action=fullscreen&primary_key=46 (http://www.ussalabama.com/html/news/index.cgi?action=fullscreen&primary_key=46)

More of the Damage

http://www.ussalabama.com/html/photos/index.php

adlabs6
10-06-2005, 02:01 PM
Ouch, a sad sight. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Iron_Hand1
10-06-2005, 02:04 PM
Thanks for the post Taylortony. I had not heard of this damage.
I remember as a kid and teenager going there many, many times. My dad lived in Bay Minette and when I would go visit in the summers we would go over and take the tour. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
I know I have been at least 15 times, it got to the point when my dad would say "what do you want to do" he would roll his eyes because he knew what was coming, lol. There wasn't a hangar there then (early 1980's) but they did have a Corsair next to the small shop they had there at the time. I know my dad still has pictures of me beside the Corsair.

I will be making a contribution to help with the repairs, and I encourage anyone else who can to help too, even if its just 5 bucks.
Definitely worth the time to take the tour if you ever get down to Mobile!

S~

Bearcat99
10-06-2005, 02:57 PM
Sad is too mild a word.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

VFS-214_Hawk
10-06-2005, 03:23 PM
Looks like the O2, P-51 and F4U got hit hard http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Chuck_Older
10-06-2005, 03:54 PM
They can all be fixed http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Friendly_flyer
10-06-2005, 04:03 PM
I don't want to be a smart ***, but wouldn’t it be an idea to put old, irreplaceable planes in a somewhat less weather prone area? The US is a very big country.

I hope there where no permanent losses!

PBNA-Boosher
10-06-2005, 04:08 PM
I'd say the same thing. Still, some of those planes may be salvageable, and still others can be used as spare parts for other surviving planes in their class.

T_O_A_D
10-06-2005, 04:12 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif I've been wonder about that and other displays down south there. Well now I know, thanks for updating us TT.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Friendly_flyer:
I don't want to be a smart ***, but wouldn’t it be an idea to put old, irreplaceable planes in a somewhat less weather prone area? The US is a very big country.

I hope there where no permanent losses! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree, and have often wondered this aswell. We had one coming to Southwest Missouri a few years ago, but funding or something fell through.

LStarosta
10-06-2005, 04:18 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PBNA-Boosher:
I'd say the same thing. Still, some of those planes may be salvageable, and still others can be used as spare parts for other surviving planes in their class. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thx for clarifying, Boosher.

horseback
10-06-2005, 04:22 PM
Unfortunately, there is no place in the US that is not to some degree, 'weatherprone.' Except for Southern California, and we have instead thoughtfully substituted earthquakes and brushfires in the interests of 'equal opportunity.'

Things can be fixed, most of the time. Our priority must for the moment be getting people's lives back on track and homes & livelihoods rebuilt.

cheers

horseback

JG52_Manteo
10-06-2005, 04:26 PM
I did not know about that, I am shocked. That is truely sad.

airjunkie
10-06-2005, 04:26 PM
I have seen too much tropical systems here in nc
right now tammy sitting on my back with 6 in of rain.

[Gypsy]
10-06-2005, 04:35 PM
I pass by the USS Alabama everyday to and from work (I live in Spanish Fort, AL and work in Mobile, AL).. After the storm I was shocked to see the list on the BB, but from riding out the storm, I wasn't completely surprised. The AC exhibit has just reopened after the damage from Hurricane Ivan the year before, when Katrina did all this damage. Talk around here is they will recover but this is all privately funded and will need help (financially) to do so.

One picture they don't show was a Coast Guard Albatross that broke it moorings and "floated" about a 1/8 mile into some trees near a motel on the grounds... looks like it took minor damage to a wing where it got caught in the trees...

MB_Avro_UK
10-06-2005, 04:37 PM
Those pics hurt... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

Will anything be done to repair the damage ??

Best regards,
MB_Avro

Bearcat99
10-06-2005, 05:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Friendly_flyer:
I don't want to be a smart ***, but wouldn’t it be an idea to put old, irreplaceable planes in a somewhat less weather prone area? The US is a very big country.

I hope there where no permanent losses! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It doesnt quite work like that. These planer are owned by individual mostly.... or museums which consist of boards. Why would a museum say in Florida want to take it's aircraft to upstate N.Y.? It wont happen. On a brighter note though.... like Chuck said.. they can all be fixed.. it just takes money.

Hoarmurath
10-06-2005, 05:12 PM
they weren't insured? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Enforcer572005
10-06-2005, 06:27 PM
oh my god....i had jsut posted a bunch of shots of the ala and drum, and some of the planes i took bck in 88 on woofiedog's battelship cove thread. i had no idea that thye even had a building for all that now. Im shocked to see the list....thats gotta be a pain to correct. i think thats the first thats happened since the mid 60s since she got there.

when i was last there in 88, they were reparing some of the planes that had been hurricane damaged. you can see thait in one of the pics i posted.

i didndt know they had all that now.

the Drum is out of the water now....didnt know that iether. it had been listing itself at one time. on the other thread, i posted one taken from the stern of the ala when it was in the water.

That is a state facility,and the ship belongs to the state of alabama. i think most of the post ww2 planes also still belong to the military. i hope the state comes up with some money, as htey probably will , since it is a major tourist attaction and generates alot of money.