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Taylortony
03-19-2005, 06:15 AM
Tuesday 03.15.05
Brothers in Arms PC Patch v1.02

An earlier version of the patch went out that wasn't supposed to be released. Version 1.02 is the only official and supported patch.
Version 1.02 of Brothers in Arms is a release-day update to enhance various aspects of Ubi.com online matchmaking support and LAN multiplayer features


nothing new there then lol http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

3.JG51_BigBear
03-19-2005, 08:33 AM
This is one awesome game. Has to be my all time favorite first person shooter.

willyvic
03-19-2005, 09:14 AM
How's she run? ie: computer specs and the like. Looks like a very nice FPS. But if the eye candy can't be turned up then it's MOH/COD rehashed.

WV.

3.JG51_BigBear
03-19-2005, 09:36 AM
Medal of Honor always ran well for me, even when my PC was a piece of ****. As for this one, on my LAN computer with a 3.2 P4, 2 gigs of ram, and a Nvidia 6800GT is ran awesome http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif. Graphics were unreal and the attention to detail in shadow, reflections, and character models was fantastic. On my more modest online computer with a 2.8 P4, 1 gig of ram, and a Nvidia 5500 OC it ran well at 1024 x 768 with all settings around medium. After messing with it a bit I went high on the textures and low on most of the other options. Looks good. On the online computer, I can get better graphics in Call of Duty but the level of detail and realism doesn't come close to Brothers.

LeadSpitter_
03-19-2005, 10:44 AM
its good offline but its so limited online and reminds me of doom3 the online gameplay is that bad, plus half of them didnt come with cd keys like mine and had to call the ubi staff, The games majorly buggy, there are no player leans nor prone positions, troop movement is basically like bf1942 without prone.

I also dont get how raised sites is less accurate then no sites at all with all the military advisors they used. It has alot of good features like supressing fire makes the enemy hide then you run up and out flank them.

Its fun but the game was much much to short on difficult, alot of nice things open up when you beat the game on the difficult setting.

I dunno I thought it was going to be much better especially bigger maps, drivable vechiles, and great online play.

It looks nice but cod uo, ut2004 Red Orchestra Mod, BF1942 Forgotten Hope, MOH Pacific assault are all superior to this game online.

Theres nothing more annoying then controling the a group of tanks with the commanders buttons guess they dont have what it takes to make drivable vechiles like red orchestra UO and forgotten hope.

the artists did a fantastic job tho same with the voices and weapons effectiveness's closest to the real thing i seen, second closest realistic weapons is red orchestra

3.JG51_BigBear
03-19-2005, 04:30 PM
I totally agree about the online play but I have to admit I wasn't disappointed about not getting vehicles. I hate vehicles. I've just never like them.

I think the game is poorly marketed. If you go over to the forums for the game a lot of people are dissapointed with it. I think the problem is that it looks like a first person shooter but its really not. Its more like the close combat games only instead of a birds eye view you're actually right on the front line. Missing out on the leaning and prone positions didn't bother me and if you play without corss hairs I thought the weapons were next to impossible to use without the iron sites, unless maybe the thompson at close range http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif. For the most part I found myself doing more commanding than fighting.

All in one's personal taste I guess. I loved it (single player went kind of fast but I was just playing on medium so I'm going to go back and play in on hard).

noshens
03-19-2005, 04:49 PM
I finished normal in about 5 hours. Apart from new kind of squad control, this game didn't bring anything new to the ww2 scene. Nice extras though.

3.JG51_BigBear
03-19-2005, 04:59 PM
I guess I'm the only one that really enjoyed it.

TheGozr
03-19-2005, 05:03 PM
The best have seen t il now is teh single player COD + offensive

WWSensei
03-19-2005, 05:15 PM
This game isn't for the MOH or COD run and gunners. You have to use real squad tactics and think your way through some of the missions. If you are looking for another COD or MOH this isn't it.

Frankly, I'm enjoying the mess out of it.

unseen84
03-19-2005, 06:03 PM
I'm enjoying it a lot as well. And I'd agree with Sensei that a lot of the people posting bad impressions of the game were probably expecting another MoH or CoD, which BiA clearly isn't.

I'm just glad to finally play a WWII shooter where I don't have to win the whole war by myself.

Vipez-
03-19-2005, 06:40 PM
I am very disappointed with the game.. imho it turned out to be just like a regular shoot'emup, like MOHAA-series.. in short, you alone kill the whole Wehrmacht.. Sure there are bit more elements of team work, but still far from when you compare it for example Operation Flashpoint.. What i mean is there is usually couple of ways to do it, and both seem to be easy. One way is to go alone, and blast everything (Wehrmacht) out of the way (simpler).. second way is, use the squad tactics, flank the enemy.. simple and works yes, but still as for squad game, flanking the enemy is the only command available.

For those who don't know OFP, please try it.. after you've it played you never want to touch MOHAAs and BIAs again http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif After three years I still find OFP the best war simulator..

For simple minded shoot'emup lovers, you love BIA..

3.JG51_BigBear
03-19-2005, 06:53 PM
I tried forever to like Operation Flashpoint. I played the original and both expansions and I never liked them. They start out very exciting but then you get stuck with the vehichles. Lord how I hate vehichles. I used to get sick trying to command those tanks. In my opinion the game was released way before computers could handle a game like that. The squad controls are awkward, the graphics are horrible, and the AI was very inconsistent. It had a lot of potential but I still don't think the PC is ready for what Codemasters was trying to do with that game.

Vipez-
03-19-2005, 07:22 PM
I dont think OFP is that ugly.. you just need to know what you are doing:


http://kyllikki.tiimipeli.net/screenshots/vinttar.jpg


http://koti.mbnet.fi/olzie/Kuviax/Hiano.jpg

3.JG51_BigBear
03-19-2005, 08:00 PM
I'll be honest that still looks pretty fugly to me. Its amazing what a lot of the free third party stuff you can get does for the game but I still have problems with the gameplay. Graphics really aren't a big selling point for me anyway, heck I still play the original Tie Fighter from time to time on an old Pentium 1 I have because I love the game play.

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
03-19-2005, 08:01 PM
Hidden and Dangerous 2 plus Sabre Squadron

Beats em all as far as I am concerned

the fact there is (currently) no map/mission editor is almost criminal but its still the best one I have played so far.

Hunde_3.JG51
03-19-2005, 11:01 PM
Very disappointed, I'm definitely returning it. I like the tactical stuff more than the run and gun, but Hidden & Dangerous 2 crushes BIA in that department (and in just about every other department). BIA isn't THAT bad, it is just that I have an extremely high opinion of H&D2, it is the IL-2 of FPS IMHO. I think BIA is probably a decent console game, but it is not up to PC standards IMHO.

I'll say it again, I think Hidden & Dangerous 2 is the most underrated game I have seen. I feel bad for anyone who is missing out due to hype of MOH, COD, BIA, etc. H&D2 has alot more depth and complexity than any of those games, and is more like a tactical sim than a shoot'em up.

GAU-8
03-19-2005, 11:05 PM
Im stuck on OFP as well, after i finally got used to the controls, i havent been able to stand any kind of FPS of any kind now. had the game several years now, and ive never played more than half of it, let alone beaten the game yet. the mission editor is THAT GOOD....give it a try.

ghost recon= SUCKS
MoH= sucks
CoD = SUX
DOOM = SUX
UNREAL =SUX
HL = SUX

of course thats just my opion, and i have tried to give it time to like them, but once you get used to a big island, to run ANYWHERE, for tactics,manuevers, rather than dinky maps with "choke points".. its just not the same.

i cant find a bigger challenge than OFP yet...except

the highly modified military version of OFP (VBS1) virtual battles space 1.

just got my income tax return in..guess where its goin ....... VBS 1

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
03-19-2005, 11:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hunde_3.JG51:
Very disappointed, I'm definitely returning it. I like the tactical stuff more than the run and gun, but Hidden & Dangerous 2 crushes BIA in that department . <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

By the way did anyone mention Hidden and Dangerous 2 yet? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

P.s some dedicated souls have actually given up waiting for the developers to release a map editor and have started hacking some of the other single player missions for coop play

Czech 4 is now playable I believe http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
03-19-2005, 11:45 PM
Actually it had been a while scince I checked out this project and was totaly unaware that it had FINALY made it to the shelves (all be it of you common or garden government defence store)

140 of your earth bucks to you sir still interesting thought mwuahahahah

http://www.virtualbattlespace.com/store/

3.JG51_BigBear
03-20-2005, 12:06 AM
If you guys really want to laugh go check out the official forums for the game. These forums aren't even a tenth as bad as their's. Every other post is about how much they hate the game. LOL. I guess there are a total of three or four people that really like it and everybody else thinks its a POS http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif.

TheGozr
03-20-2005, 01:05 AM
i new it when i played the beta, they were teeling the peoples playing the game that it will look better at the release of the game.......lies.

the_only_8ball
03-20-2005, 06:26 AM
ive never heard of oparation flash point could sum 1 plz tell me were to get it plus i think that hnd 2 is good but for to complex with key controls also bia has a thumb down from me the on line play is terible anyway ofp sum 1 plz send me a msg on colin_hart22@hotmail.com

WWSensei
03-20-2005, 07:18 AM
I don't care for what 10 year old FPS l33t kids think of it. Have a group of friends, all former 82nd Airborne, and they love the game.

When a real Airborne paratrooper tells me a game about Airborne troopers has finally gotten it right I tend to believe them more than someone looking for Yet Another MOH.

As for HnD, I'll have to commit heresy. I tried both 1 and 2 and frankly I couldn't stand them. I found the interface so clunky an unintuitive.

OFP, played it for hours. Mostly custom missions from the community because like many here I HATED the vehicle portions of the game. My biggest complaint about OFP is the brain dead AI. Pick off someone in a crowd and nobody reacts? In its day though it was primo.

willyvic
03-20-2005, 09:30 AM
Thanx for the input all. Will pass on this one till it reaches the bargain bin. And by the majority opinion of the game play, both here and at other forums, it should be there in a couple of months.

WV.

Taylortony
03-20-2005, 10:04 AM
Me too willy, been following this thread with interest........ till then its COD UOffensive online http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif a game i like, was looking at replacing it with this, but now have my doubts http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif bargain bucket job then and if ubi is true to PF we should get it next week at a 3rd off http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

3.JG51_BigBear
03-20-2005, 10:06 AM
I really like it, but I think you're right willy, this is going to be a bargain bin classic before too long. With the amount of frustration people have had with this game I wouldn't be surprised if used copies didn't start showingg up within the next week or two.

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
03-20-2005, 09:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WWSensei:


As for HnD, I'll have to commit heresy. I tried both 1 and 2 and frankly I couldn't stand them. I found the interface so clunky an unintuitive.
. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


I can't believe were talking about the same game here mate still I suppose it is possible that that we failed to erradicate all the unbelievers on our last purge.

Please remain in your chair with your hands above your head and one of our brothers will be around to administer purification with a welding torch real soon. Clunky indeed http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

altstiff
03-20-2005, 10:28 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Vipez-:
I dont think OFP is that ugly.. you just need to know what you are doing:


http://kyllikki.tiimipeli.net/screenshots/vinttar.jpg


http://koti.mbnet.fi/olzie/Kuviax/Hiano.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I love OFP, where can I get textures like that?!?!? PM me please.....

Aimosika
03-21-2005, 02:18 AM
Brothers in arms, realistic ww2 shooter..?
A wargame where you cannot go prone?!? Only stand up or crouch. That was enough to me and returned it to shop and cursed alot. Realistic, my ***!