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dandrader
04-04-2006, 07:28 AM
Hi all,

Until now I had only Pacific Fighters. My FB/AEP Gold Pack has just arrived. So I was really eager to make some German vs. US duels. :-)

I was experimenting several airplanes on an air duel against an AI (Veteran) P-51D.

The P-51D was using Boom & Zoom tatics and, to my surprise, I couldn't catch him using any german airplane. Even the Ta-152 failed to catch him.

Do I suck flying those planes or is the P-51D the real Boom & Zoom king?

dandrader
04-04-2006, 07:28 AM
Hi all,

Until now I had only Pacific Fighters. My FB/AEP Gold Pack has just arrived. So I was really eager to make some German vs. US duels. :-)

I was experimenting several airplanes on an air duel against an AI (Veteran) P-51D.

The P-51D was using Boom & Zoom tatics and, to my surprise, I couldn't catch him using any german airplane. Even the Ta-152 failed to catch him.

Do I suck flying those planes or is the P-51D the real Boom & Zoom king?

Chuck_Older
04-04-2006, 08:35 AM
Try using an Me 262 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The Ai doesn't have engine overheat working against him. Never use an AI opponent to judge what a human opponent, or even you, could make an airplane do. The P-51 was hard to catch becuase the Ai doesn't play by all the same rules as you do, and to be vert frank, you are very inexperienced with wringin the last bit of performance out of German aircraft at this point

It's not exactly fair to play the game for an hour with this new aircraft, and then decide that you know how to fly all the planes well http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif You are at the bottom of the learning curve, I'm not surprised you can't catch anything. It does become possible, but it still isn't easy. P-51s are pretty good at boom and zoom in the game, but I question whether or not you're really seeing the AI use that tactic a lot

Longpo
04-04-2006, 08:43 AM
Since your trying to chase down the AI in the aircraft it will be harder. They don€t suffer from overheat or blackouts and stuff like that, but yeah just go for the Me-262 and laugh like a little girl when you chase that AI bathturd down... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Ritter_Cuda
04-04-2006, 08:48 AM
if flown right the p-38 should be the boom and zoom King. The 109 and the 190 have those lovely one shot kill cannons in the right hands they are unbeatable.

dandrader
04-04-2006, 10:13 AM
I forgot to say: Jet and rocket propelled airplanes (and others weirdos alike) doesn't count. :-)

But it was indeed a big surprise to know that AI doesn't have engine overheating against then. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Several years ago, when I used to play the original (plain) IL-2, I felt like being the king, booming & zooming with a fw190. But now, with the addition of late war US planes in FB/AEP the german planes looks shadowed by then.

By the way: Thanks for the feedback so far! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

thefruitbat
04-04-2006, 10:34 AM
mustangIII quickest maybee at sea level???

JaVA_Zeehond
04-04-2006, 11:13 AM
Try the P-38... The "Late" version. Can that thing go fast!! wow! instead of 2 1200hp engines(normal P38's) it has 2 1700hp I believe

VF2_Sarge
04-04-2006, 04:55 PM
In theory, its quite possible that the P-38 would be the fastest. Than again, in theory a A6M5 shouldn't be able to chase down a P-51D at sea level. Think of it this way, in this game, it isn't American, its probably better; and if it is American, its GARBAGE.

Case in point: F6F-5 Hellcat
Its to slow, to heavy, not enough power, under gunned, and not enough ammo.

This WAS the King of the Pacific.

Just a thought.

AFJ_Locust
04-04-2006, 05:55 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VF2_Sarge:
In theory, its quite possible that the P-38 would be the fastest. Than again, in theory a A6M5 shouldn't be able to chase down a P-51D at sea level. Think of it this way, in this game, it isn't American, its probably better; and if it is American, its GARBAGE.

Case in point: F6F-5 Hellcat
Its to slow, to heavy, not enough power, under gunned, and not enough ammo.

This WAS the King of the Pacific.

Just a thought. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif

Zeus-cat
04-04-2006, 06:07 PM
TB-3 be sure.

DoBravery
04-04-2006, 06:13 PM
Have you installed the update patches yet? I loved the P-51D right after the merge. Since the patches, it seems a little bit finicky.

What I love most about the P-38 is that it seems to retain its speed really well.

BTW, at about what altitude was this boom and zoom going on at?

Snow_Wolf_
04-04-2006, 06:28 PM
the fastest plane in FB would be a Me-163.......

HotelBushranger
04-06-2006, 04:28 AM
He-162 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

TgD Thunderbolt56
04-06-2006, 09:19 AM
For piston-engined aircraft, it would be between the Mustang III, FW190D-9(44), La7.


TB

tigertalon
04-06-2006, 10:05 AM
Piston engined planes only.

Firstly, what altitude?

On the deck MustangIII is fastest hands down, folowed closely by Fw190-D9_45 and La-7.

Yes, like chuck older said, it takes a lot of skill to fiddle with all the settings on german figters to squeeze every kph out of them.

ElAurens
04-06-2006, 10:36 AM
The P 80 is no slouch either...

for a jet...

dandrader
04-06-2006, 11:18 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tigertalon:
Piston engined planes only.

Firstly, what altitude?

On the deck MustangIII is fastest hands down, folowed closely by Fw190-D9_45 and La-7.

Yes, like chuck older said, it takes a lot of skill to fiddle with all the settings on german figters to squeeze every kph out of them. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, piston engined planes only and around 3.000 meters.

gthgrrl4game
04-06-2006, 12:07 PM
Mustang III, but if you play right you can catch one with the faster of the Bf-109 g/k series, with better power loading they accelerate faster than the 51's. So you have a small chance to whack one with mk108 b4 they run away from you.
I like the 'stang tho to fly. Too bad the 50 cals are so much less lethal that 20 or 30mm cannon http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

dandrader
04-06-2006, 01:09 PM
Back in 1997, when I used to play Warbirds (a online massive WW2 simulator), we referred to the Mustangs as "Runstangs". So their fame also continues well deserved here in IL-2 :-)

Doug_Thompson
04-06-2006, 07:00 PM
The fastest piston-engined plane in the game is the Do-335, although it's not a dogfighter.

The British Mustang Mk. III is faster at mid-to-low-level only. The latest-model P-47s are slightly faster at very high altitudes.

WTE_Galway
04-06-2006, 07:13 PM
i think the overall fastest piston plane of the period was the typhoon derivative .. the sea fury

however the sea fury didnt actually finally enter service until 1946 missing the war by a few months

major_setback
04-07-2006, 01:54 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WTE_Galway:
i think the overall fastest piston plane of the period was the typhoon derivative .. the sea fury

however the sea fury didnt actually finally enter service until 1946 missing the war by a few months </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, it's a pity the war didn't go on a little longer... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

dandrader
04-07-2006, 06:09 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by major_setback:
Yes, it's a pity the war didn't go on a little longer... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Dean3238
04-07-2006, 06:31 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Yes, it's a pity the war didn't go on a little longer... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, then would would be whining we didn't get to see those 'great' 1947 planes that didn't quite make it into service... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Dean

WOLFMondo
04-07-2006, 06:37 AM
If you divide planes up into different heights i think the fastest on the deck is the Mustang MkIII followed by the La7 then the Dora, the fastest at high altitude is the Ta152 with the P47 close behind. At medium altitude its probably the Mustang MkIII, Tempest or Dora.

Dunno about jets though. Probably the P80 is.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WTE_Galway:
i think the overall fastest piston plane of the period was the typhoon derivative .. the sea fury

however the sea fury didnt actually finally enter service until 1946 missing the war by a few months </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The Tempest VI with the Sabre VA was faster. The original prototype clocked out at over 470mph with a full combat load at medium altitude but the engine wasn't mature enough until afer the war. The Tempest V with a SabreIIC was also reportedly faster by pilot accounts although little information exists to confirm this.