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XyZspineZyX
08-17-2003, 07:06 AM
Was flying the LA5n tonight and both my buddy and I found that the brakes on the LA5n pitch you on your nose at the lightest touch. He used keyboard brake key and I used the brake pedal on my CH Products Pro rudder pedals. Both of use nosed over on the slightest touch landing on a grass field near Oboyan. I even was pulling back on the stick to keep the tail down.

Just thought I would report a possible bug, Overall the 1.1b Patch is wonderful, thanks Oleg and crew!

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XyZspineZyX
08-17-2003, 07:06 AM
Was flying the LA5n tonight and both my buddy and I found that the brakes on the LA5n pitch you on your nose at the lightest touch. He used keyboard brake key and I used the brake pedal on my CH Products Pro rudder pedals. Both of use nosed over on the slightest touch landing on a grass field near Oboyan. I even was pulling back on the stick to keep the tail down.

Just thought I would report a possible bug, Overall the 1.1b Patch is wonderful, thanks Oleg and crew!

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XyZspineZyX
08-17-2003, 06:22 PM
This is true for most heavy radial engined aircraft. get the tail wheel on the ground and you will be fine.

XyZspineZyX
08-17-2003, 07:03 PM
DOG-SneakyPete wrote:
- Was flying the LA5n tonight

The La-5 was known to drop it's nose if you braked too hard /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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Message Edited on 08/17/0306:03PM by Bremspropeller

XyZspineZyX
08-17-2003, 11:22 PM
What was your speed when you first braked?

XyZspineZyX
08-18-2003, 12:59 AM
At 130, pull the stick full back. Then you can use the brakes without nosing over.

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XyZspineZyX
08-18-2003, 01:08 AM
At lower speeds, push the power up to ~20% while holding the stick full back. This will put enough propwash over the elevators to hold the nose down as you brake to stop or turn. It doesn't make sense at first to use power to help stop, but it does keep you from nosing over.

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XyZspineZyX
08-18-2003, 02:40 PM
Also pump the brakes.

XyZspineZyX
08-19-2003, 04:17 AM
I was using back force on the elevator as I said in the original postand my speed was around 100Kph so the elevator had plenty of airflow. My brakes are proportional since they are bound to the brake pedal on the pedals. I've never had a problem with the LA5n before the patch.

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XyZspineZyX
08-19-2003, 04:22 AM
3pt landings help, the p40 p39 and tb3 nose over if they just touch the grass now never had no problem with the LAs doing that, also tapping the brake and use left and right rudder help you stop alot faster


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