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jamesdietz
06-08-2006, 10:08 AM
I've had a semi transparent starboard( right) wing for as long as I've played this sim -its a sort of transparent wedge that appears when I look over my shoulder...I've gotten used to it ..but it still bothers me when I can see my undercarriage coming up after take off...
The flaw in the beautiful Tempest is actually kind of neat:The landing light shines thru the port( left)wing.Its almost like a laser beam cutting thru a wing joint...
Any plans to correct these??? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

jamesdietz
06-08-2006, 10:08 AM
I've had a semi transparent starboard( right) wing for as long as I've played this sim -its a sort of transparent wedge that appears when I look over my shoulder...I've gotten used to it ..but it still bothers me when I can see my undercarriage coming up after take off...
The flaw in the beautiful Tempest is actually kind of neat:The landing light shines thru the port( left)wing.Its almost like a laser beam cutting thru a wing joint...
Any plans to correct these??? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

crazyivan1970
06-08-2006, 10:23 AM
Screenshots? Maybe individual issue? Anyone else can confim this, cause i cant.

dazza9806482
06-08-2006, 10:30 AM
I thought the transparent wedge thing was well known on the german planes?

is it not some graphic limitation?

not sure about the tempest light tho...

jamesdietz
06-08-2006, 10:47 AM
Will try to post a couple of shots later today...they're kind of fun....

MB80
06-08-2006, 12:13 PM
I know about these 109 problems, there's also a small bug with the revi if you look to 10-11 o clock. And there's also a very small but also ugly point on the right side of a FW190A cockpit, just a dot but it's there http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif
I would say these are normal 3D problems, no advantage, but nothing really important what should be fixed..

slipBall
06-08-2006, 12:44 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jamesdietz:
I've had a semi transparent starboard( right) wing for as long as I've played this sim -its a sort of transparent wedge that appears when I look over my shoulder...I've gotten used to it ..but it still bothers me when I can see my undercarriage coming up after take off...
The flaw in the beautiful Tempest is actually kind of neat:The landing light shines thru the port( left)wing.Its almost like a laser beam cutting thru a wing joint...
Any plans to correct these??? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


I had the same issue in 109, it started with the 404 patch. The trailing edge of the right wing, triangle shaped wedge. I kind of liked it for spoting ground targets http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif I recently downloaded the latest 6.5 from ATI, and my little starboard window is gone http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

La7_brook
06-08-2006, 01:27 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by slipBall:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jamesdietz:
I've had a semi transparent starboard( right) wing for as long as I've played this sim -its a sort of transparent wedge that appears when I look over my shoulder...I've gotten used to it ..but it still bothers me when I can see my undercarriage coming up after take off...
The flaw in the beautiful Tempest is actually kind of neat:The landing light shines thru the port( left)wing.Its almost like a laser beam cutting thru a wing joint...
Any plans to correct these??? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


I had the same issue in 109, it started with the 404 patch. The trailing edge of the right wing, triangle shaped wedge. I kind of liked it for spoting ground targets http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif I recently downloaded the latest 6.5 from ATI, and my little starboard window is gone http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE> yes same here sss now they now y we se them lol

DmdSeeker
06-08-2006, 04:42 PM
I get the 109 wing thang too.

jamesdietz
06-08-2006, 05:17 PM
Ok here you go crazy Ivan:
A picture tells a thousand words dept.:
First is the 109 wing...this happens to be a 109E-4 but I believe it happens on most of the 109s I've flown( but I haven't checked all of them...note the rearright near wing root,the triangular shape which you can see more of the water below than I'd really want to if I was really flying this ship...by the way I seem to remember someone pointing this out years ago...but I could be wrong..
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jamesdietz/109wing.jpg

These second ones are the Tempest,& they speak for themselves....

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jamesdietz/tempestwing1.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jamesdietz/tempestwing2.jpg

Kind of a cool effect...but I doubt whether a real pilot would think so ,do you?

Is there any way to correct these? Just wondering....

JG53Frankyboy
06-08-2006, 05:31 PM
everyone has this with the 109 wings.
and old known bug, since IL2 release.
it will be not "changed". i cant remember the exactly reasons, its years behind http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

the tempest thing is the activated landing light ? correct ?
that will also not be changed.

VW-IceFire
06-08-2006, 05:39 PM
Those are both bugs common to most aircraft in the game. A few have shapes of the cockpit that prevent it from happening and landing lights out the front that don't have as much of a noticeable problem but its still there.

Thats the graphical engine to blame.

slipBall
06-08-2006, 05:53 PM
jamesdietz
I had the wedge shape but it was cured with the latest driver install. I just flew the tempest, and the nav lights were normal. I think that you should see if you have the latest vid driver, and maybe also play around with the vid settings, good luck

Tusseladden
06-10-2006, 07:17 AM
Same with the Pe-2, which is kindof sad since it's the latest airplane http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Get in the Pe-2, look at your pedals. Then move your view around with the mouse so that you look in a circular motion around the pedals. At some point you will see a brown square appear on one of the pedals. This happens to be the pilot's right foot :P Maybe I'll get a screenie later.

slipBall
06-10-2006, 08:41 AM
Yes tempest with landing light's on, port wing, same effect as the screenie that jamesdietz posted. So it is a bug http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif I have tried to get back the starboard wedge window, and could not. I think the wedge is more of a vid system limitation bug, than a game bug

Platypus_1.JaVA
06-10-2006, 09:35 AM
Yup, the transperant-wedge-bug on the 109 is well known and has been there since il-2 version 1.0 I don't think it'll ever get fixed.

FritzGryphon
06-18-2006, 06:32 PM
The wedge is dependant on your video card. Every game has near clipping like this.

I think there's conf.ini settings for the clipping, but don't quote me on that.

As for the landing light, it looks like that on all planes. There is no way to solve this, as it's just a sprite. Perhaps by making it smaller, you wouldn't notice that it's poking through the wing, but some planes have really thin wings.

In a perfect world, it would be a volumetric haze instead of a sprite. But we don't want the landing lights causing performance hits, either.

JamesBlonde888
06-18-2006, 07:27 PM
Look out james that Tempest has 'The Shinning"