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Taylortony
09-23-2007, 05:57 PM
I was looking for the Steve fossett plane and stupidly enough I have found one sitting on the ground in the middle of nowhere..... I am unsure how to pass on the information, could someone please check my findings on the google earth and if possible let them know

The coordinates are as follows

38? 5'25.67"N 118?29'19.31"W

could someone PLEASE check it using the maps on this link

http://www.mturk.com/mturk/preview?groupId=9TSZK4G35XEZJZG21T60&kw=Flash

Taylortony
09-23-2007, 05:57 PM
I was looking for the Steve fossett plane and stupidly enough I have found one sitting on the ground in the middle of nowhere..... I am unsure how to pass on the information, could someone please check my findings on the google earth and if possible let them know

The coordinates are as follows

38? 5'25.67"N 118?29'19.31"W

could someone PLEASE check it using the maps on this link

http://www.mturk.com/mturk/preview?groupId=9TSZK4G35XEZJZG21T60&kw=Flash

Chris0382
09-23-2007, 06:03 PM
contact the FAA

http://www.faa.gov/

THEy will assist

Taylortony
09-23-2007, 06:11 PM
This is what I found

http://mysite.orange.co.uk/donno2006/PLANE.jpg

berg417448
09-23-2007, 06:14 PM
Could be an aircraft in flight. I've found photos of a few planes like that on Google Earth.

Still worth passing on.

B16Enk
09-23-2007, 06:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">118?29'19.31"W </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Confirmed Tony.

I will do a HIT on it too.

I have emailed by brother in law in NM with co-ordinates.

B16Enk
09-23-2007, 06:23 PM
@ others reading, both Tony and I are UK based, this needs to be taken up by US residents.

Don't know what the latency is with mechanical turk, but suspect it is high.

leitmotiv
09-23-2007, 08:01 PM
The problem with Google Earth is that the images can be years old, they are not real-time, but anything can help.

VW-IceFire
09-23-2007, 08:06 PM
Interesting...is that within the search area?

EDIT: Tried those co-ordinates on my Google Earth and I just have barren desert.

berg417448
09-23-2007, 08:18 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by leitmotiv:
The problem with Google Earth is that the images can be years old, they are not real-time, but anything can help. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

According to news stories, Google Earth released up to date images of Nevada specifically for the Fosset search .

buzzsaw1939
09-23-2007, 08:36 PM
Interesting pic, If you look close, the shadows under the wings match the shadows on the bushes, my experience tells me the plane is on the ground and undamaged.

everybody should check those co-ordinates again, might be a search plane landed to check something, definately report it!

hartsox
09-23-2007, 08:49 PM
It's gone now. *Just checked google earth BTW*

Dagnabit
09-23-2007, 09:29 PM
Please excuse my having started the other thread
but I was on the phone for about 2 and a half hours. Meanwhile I had a dozen windows open trying to get more info on all this for the 911 operators here and for some reason I couldnt post. So eventually I tried just doing another thread to get info back to all of you who are interested. That picture looks amazingly close to what they are looking for though. You should have heard me trying to explain how I got the info..."Well this guy Taylortony, (who lives in the UK by the way). No thats not his real name (Ithink) Googled this plane....And then came on a forum we share an intrest in, and asked for assistance from anyone here in the US to pass this on". http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif
We have an international airport here, but the FAA didnt have anyone in their office. So I tried 911 since everything else was closed. And the lady that answered was great. She worked hard getting through all the red tape she had to just to contact people at this hour, on Sunday. I have also taken the liberty of lifting the picture Taylortony posted as the FAA said they may want me to Fax them a copy.
In any case Taylortony they gave us many thanks for the info, and said they would contact me if the info was good just to let me know. I will of course post anything that comes up on this.
Lets just hope that this man is still alive and that where ever he is they find him soon.

xTHRUDx
09-23-2007, 11:50 PM
i'm looking at it on my google and it's hard to see if it's in flight or not.

when i use the ruler tool it puts the wingspan at 32-34 feet which is about right for a citabria

here is the nearest airport 30 miles north of the object you found. there is contact info there.
http://www.airnav.com/airport/KHTH

Chris0382
09-24-2007, 05:51 AM
Here is how you can tell if its in flight.

Lookk at it one day then look at it the next. If its still there its not in flight. If GE is not live, its not much practical use to begin with. They need to update it every day.

berg417448
09-24-2007, 08:46 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chris0382:
Here is how you can tell if its in flight.

Lookk at it one day then look at it the next. If its still there its not in flight. If GE is not live, its not much practical use to begin with. They need to update it every day. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It isn't live.
Google Earth downloaded up to date photos after the Fosset search began so that the photos could be searched for clues.

Zeus-cat
09-24-2007, 04:07 PM
Some of the photos on these sites can be years old. I tried looking up a friends house an the road where his house should have been was empty; he's lived there several years.

slipBall
09-24-2007, 04:31 PM
I think that he set her down, and is walking out.....he was too skilled to not be able to glide her in....heart attack, fire, anything is possible I quess, it's just a real shame

Taylortony
09-24-2007, 05:05 PM
Thanks guys someone has contacted them http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The satellite images were all updated and available for people to help in the search post his loss, therefore the images are up to date if you download the correct file for free....they are also in hi-res..

The Aircraft would be fitted with an E.L.T, so if he had put it down or indeed crashed in one substantial piece it would be transmitting on 121.5
Additionally he may have been wearing his watch, that also had an ELT in it but needs to be manually operated by pulling out the aerial..... so he has either gone in bad and the ELT was destroyed or its under water.... If he survived and was wearing his watch he would have operated that and its good for a day or two.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Believe me the ELT is effective, had the embarrasing moment of a Sea King search and rescue helicopter circling overhead my hangar responding to a transmitting ELT.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif
You get charged for the time and helicopter if its a false alarm, (about 15,000) pointed out none of my aircraft had them fitted... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif They checked though and agreed.....

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif Funnily enough an avionics engineer friend of mine working for a big airline next door was working on the very same system that morning on a passenger airliner, strolled in, mentioned it in passing to him why that noisy helicopter was going round and round outside http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif......... the words Oh and SH*T were mentioned and he rapidly left the conversation....... funnily enough they lost the signal some time shortly afterwards http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Dagnabit
09-24-2007, 07:46 PM
NP Taylortony, I felt privelaged to be able to help even if in such a small way.
I had become aware of Steve being lost a couple of weeks ago, but didnt follow the story. Until yesterday I had no idea that they were using the satelite software in his search. So I ran the DL and found the exact same image that you first discovered. I did alot of measuring especially with the altimeter and it indicates that(assuming it is an aircraft) the fuselage appears to be in a shallow gully. What would be the nose of the AC is nearly due north. The left wing (Or west side) is 3ft. or so higher than the right wing. (Or east side). Terrain to the West rises slightly quicker than on the East side, but with vegetation, which is mostly just scrub or low bushes, with some growth reaching 20ft. Anyway if the Alt. device is even close, Im guessing you would be nearly standing on this AC before you noticed it.
Also in assuming that the AC is right side up, when I measured the wings the left wing kept giving me a drop off in midwing of a foot or two, some refocusing showed a darker area near the front edge that was good sized, made me think about a possible broken wing.Also it might just be me but the tail dosent look quite right either. TT, the image you found looks soooo much like the example picture they showed it was amazing. It is also just about a ringer for the last known contact with Steve.
They had also figured at one point here that he was a bit SW of Hawthorn, and this image is perhaps a bit SSW of Hawthorn, but surely in the ballpark.
I also noticed that my resolution wasent that great but it mostly looks white and washed out, but i got quite a bit of blue on high magnifications that bled out to the edges when the pic became pixelated. It may not mean anything at all but His AC colors are white and blue. Well thats about all I have on it for now.
Perhhaps if I dont have some confirmation by say noon tomorrow, Ill make some more phone calls and gently squeeze a little on this one. FAA cant hide now I have their numbers http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Great job TT
Sleep well
I know I will
Dag
plz excuse typos etc..Im very tired

VW-IceFire
09-24-2007, 09:12 PM
Good luck. I'm crossing my fingers...not sure if anything like this would work but I hope for his sake and everyone involved that this is it!

BaldieJr
09-25-2007, 01:08 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by berg417448:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by leitmotiv:
The problem with Google Earth is that the images can be years old, they are not real-time, but anything can help. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

According to news stories, Google Earth released up to date images of Nevada specifically for the Fosset search . </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

this makes me sick to my stomach. i rather liked the old days when it took forever to get that sort of intel.

and whats worse? its in the hands of a publicly traded corporation. makes you wonder what kinda **** governments have at their disposals.

skarden
09-25-2007, 04:43 AM
Riiiiiiiiggggght http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif
I think it's time to put the crackpipe down there Baldie http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

DxyFlyr
09-25-2007, 12:24 PM
I'm thinking this plane is in flight.

If you look at other planes in flight all around Google Earth, you will see a ghost-like greenish or blueish shadow in front of each plane. It's not a shadow from the sun, I think it has something to do with shutter timing and how far the plane traveled during the pic. You don't see it for planes parked at airfields.

I think I'm seeing this ghost on the image of the plane in question, albeit very faint. It's about a plane length in front. I notice it especially at about 7500' eye altitude. I will say that usually, the ghosting is much more noticeable. But here, the ground color is close to the "ghost shadow thingie", so it wouldn't stand out as much.

Still, it's certainly worth someone checking out.

Esel1964
09-27-2007, 01:28 AM
Obviously,I have no idea whether this is in any way related to this thread,but,I saw on the Fox News Channel today,that (I'm paraphrasing here) said "due to new evidence,the search has been re-started,after being declared officially over, almost a week ago."

slipBall
09-27-2007, 02:49 AM
Yes I heard on the radio that they were to begin looking again.....maybe it was the Tony tip that did it

RedToo
09-27-2007, 11:44 AM
Interesting blog with lots of sightings:

http://fossettsightings.blogspot.com/

Lots of people looking.

RedToo.

Copperhead311th
09-27-2007, 05:02 PM
well....there have been a lot of sightings of Elvis too.
and i Agree Google Earth is not much use if it is not Live. and they need to allow you to get withn 10 feet of the ground.